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Posted February 02, 2019
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truhlik: BTW steam page of new Metro has been removed or hidden from users thus flamewar has finally stop there :)
Review bombs are still happening though.
Posted February 02, 2019
https://steamcommunity.com/app/412020/discussions/

* grabs popcorn *
Posted February 02, 2019
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i_hope_you_rot: https://steamcommunity.com/app/412020/discussions/

* grabs popcorn *
These guys at Koch Media must be really confident about Epic when they think that they will have a higher profit margin from a small store that still is in its infancy and pulling d*** moves like this,compared to the huge Steam population.I wonder how much money Epic dumped on those guys... Chers
Post edited February 02, 2019 by deja65
Posted February 02, 2019
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Johnathanamz: For making the PC version of Metro Exodus to be sold on the Epic Games store instead of on gog.com, Epic Games store, and Steam.

I know you guys are letting Deep Silver and Koch Media be run independently, but doing exclusives like this is Anti-Customer.

If it's twelve months exclusive whatever, but still.

I am making this topic here because THQ Nordic reads the gog.com forums.

Not gonna post a comment on the Epic Games forums or THQ Nordic's forums, because gog.com is the place I use.

Yep it will be twelve months exclusive.

www.resetera.com/threads/metro-exodus-for-pc-is-a-timed-exclusive-for-the-epic-games-store-steam-preorders-hon oured-physical-copy-has-steam-key.96225/#post-17328886

Still a shame.
If they release it here on gog after 12 month they are still faster, better, prettier than Bethesda with their steam exclusive PC versions of Skyrim & FO4.
Posted February 02, 2019
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amok: Still waiting for you to complain about gOg's anti-consumer practices - many exclusive games here not sold anywhere else.
What high profile games were exclusive to GoG?

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CharlesGrey: On topic: If there's no Steam version at release, this game is going to be "pirated" so hard. Not only is this new distribution platform rather controversial, Metro also strikes me as the type of game to attract many potential software pirates, due to its popularity and genre. I wonder how this is going to work out for Epic, as well as the game's devs/publisher. I suspect it's going to be beneficial for the former, and a long-term loss for the latter.
Why aren't they "hard pirating" all steam games instead?
Posted February 02, 2019
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StingingVelvet: No one cared when Steamworks had exclusives out the ying-yang. This all boils down to people wanting all games to be centralized on one service, and would likely never leave Steam if they didn't have to. That's why Epic is using exclusives, it's the only thing that forces people to leave a comfortable monopoly.
I don't like Steam one bit, but to be fair to them, Steamworks wasn't mandatory by Valve but was a developer/publisher choice, as you can see, Games on Steam are available on other platforms by developer/publisher.

Epic however is saying no other store is allowed.
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CharlesGrey: To be fair, while I agree that forced exclusives are generally crap from a customer's point of view, most of GOG's exclusives are games which wouldn't even be officially available for sale, if GOG hadn't put in the effort to bring em back.
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amok: and then they FORCE your to buy them from here. clearly this is anti-consumerist practice?

(but other games as well, some had timed exclusivity and such, which are not old or "made available by gOg". that Warlock game, or what it was called, for example).

Bottom line, complaining about exclusivity on other stores, but ignoring the same on gOg is having double standards.
I find this difficult to understand due to the fact that GOG/CD Project's own games are not even platform exclusive, I doubt Cyberpunk 2077 will be either.
Post edited February 02, 2019 by lumengloriosum
Posted February 02, 2019
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StingingVelvet: No one cared when Steamworks had exclusives out the ying-yang. This all boils down to people wanting all games to be centralized on one service, and would likely never leave Steam if they didn't have to. That's why Epic is using exclusives, it's the only thing that forces people to leave a comfortable monopoly.
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lumengloriosum: I don't like Steam one bit, but to be fair to them, Steamworks wasn't mandatory by Valve but was a developer/publisher choice, as you can see, Games on Steam are available on other platforms by developer/publisher.
That's a meaningless difference. If you wanted to play those games then your stuck with steam even if you bought it out of a shop with a disc.Steam also broke multiplayer for lots of games to force people onto steam.
Posted February 02, 2019
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amok: Still waiting for you to complain about gOg's anti-consumer practices - many exclusive games here not sold anywhere else.
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Spectre: What high profile games were exclusive to GoG?
so what you are saying that this a concern that applies to only certain types of games but not to others?

"monopoly is fine, unless it is something I want"
Posted February 02, 2019
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Spectre: What high profile games were exclusive to GoG?
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amok: so what you are saying that this a concern that applies to only certain types of games but not to others?

"monopoly is fine, unless it is something I want"
No person here is saying a monopoly is fine.

We or at least what I am reading on the gog.com forums is that most of us PC gamers want all PC versions of video games to be released for sale on gog.com, Battle.net, Bethesda.net, Origin, Steam, uPlay, and any other 3rd party website selling PC versions of video games on the internet like greenmangaming.com or whatever, etc and as well as the video game developers selling the video games on their own websites.

I am not sure where you see a person here saying they want a video game sold exclusively one one digital distribution retailer service or the other on the internet.

We are asking for FREEDOM OF CHOICE WHERE WE WANT TO PURCHASE THE PC VERSIONS OF VIDEO GAMES FROM. Not to be forced to have them be sold in one place only.
Posted February 02, 2019
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lumengloriosum: I don't like Steam one bit, but to be fair to them, Steamworks wasn't mandatory by Valve but was a developer/publisher choice, as you can see, Games on Steam are available on other platforms by developer/publisher.
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Spectre: That's a meaningless difference. If you wanted to play those games then your stuck with steam even if you bought it out of a shop with a disc.Steam also broke multiplayer for lots of games to force people onto steam.
Not at all, the key difference is the decision of the publisher/developer. If that game is locked to Steam, it's the fault of the developer/publisher because such things are not and were not mandatory. Multiplayer servers too aren't tied to Steam, servers such as the Red Orchestra 2 franchise.

On the other hand with Epic, it's time bound to the store, where the publisher/developer agrees to limitations of stores to sell their games on.

Thus for Steam, the developer/publisher chooses DRM as optional, and Epic contractually obligates the publisher/developer to use only their store for a certain period of time or indefinetely.
Posted February 02, 2019
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Off all the 3 games I own from Epic's store, none of them require the Epic Client to be loaded, or even the internet to be available. You simply create a short-cut to executable and add "-EpicPortal" to the end of the shortcut. Sure, you need a account, and to purchase them, but thats it. Can you do this with Steam games ? None of mine can, they all require the client to be loaded.

Subnautica, runs and looks fantastic. Didn't need the client running, or a internet connection. I have put over 50 hours into this, and it's been great, stable, and no problems whatsoever. If this continues, I can't see a problem with Epic's Store.
Posted February 03, 2019
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CraigGen_1970: Off all the 3 games I own from Epic's store, none of them require the Epic Client to be loaded, or even the internet to be available. You simply create a short-cut to executable and add "-EpicPortal" to the end of the shortcut. Sure, you need a account, and to purchase them, but thats it. Can you do this with Steam games ? None of mine can, they all require the client to be loaded.

Subnautica, runs and looks fantastic. Didn't need the client running, or a internet connection. I have put over 50 hours into this, and it's been great, stable, and no problems whatsoever. If this continues, I can't see a problem with Epic's Store.
Some games on Steam don't need Steam to Launch.
Posted February 03, 2019
What's the answer to PC gamers threatening to boycott your game? Apparently it's telling them, fuck you PC gamers! (paraphrasing) ::thumbs up::

Do I really need an /s tag?

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/4a-games-developer-if-metro-exodus-does-not-sell-on-the-pc-the-next-metro-will-not-come-out-for-it/
Posted February 03, 2019
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truhlik: BTW steam page of new Metro has been removed or hidden from users thus flamewar has finally stop there :)
The page can still be accessed via browser.
Posted February 03, 2019
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tremere110: What's the answer to PC gamers threatening to boycott your game? Apparently it's telling them, fuck you PC gamers! (paraphrasing) ::thumbs up::

Do I really need an /s tag?

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/4a-games-developer-if-metro-exodus-does-not-sell-on-the-pc-the-next-metro-will-not-come-out-for-it/
Well good ridance, I say. Some people don't learn from EA's mistakes.
I suggest mass pirating the game and make them stay true to their word.
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