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Gerin: Good info. Thanks
Its close to midnight Midnight now...

UPDATE:
Melee is pretty good, once you get the system its fantastic (im a filthy casual btw)
--TIP: turn off auto target and make it manual (X) key it makes combat very fun and increases mobility
Ranged is done well, there is an initial auto target, full auto target and free target mode.

It took a little getting used to but the lag in attack feels natural now and the timing were not hard to get used too.

As for the bug well, I drank all my potions to fast, it was part of the tutorial... I am having a blast and loving how interactive everyone is, the world feels alive... and that MUSIC <3 <3 so beautiful and so far I have yet to want to turn it off... everything fits perfectly and it help when creatures aggro you, the tempo and cadence change is perfect!
Post edited October 18, 2017 by Starkrun
Yeah. Pre-order culture. Not a big fan of it myself. But to clobber the people who still do? Who actually pay a sensible, industry-sustaining price for games instead of going "WISHLISTED" in every god damn release thread, and then have the "audacity" of being disappointed when devs pull off their shit, even if it is in fact nauseatingly repetitious shit?
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Vainamoinen: Yeah. Pre-order culture. Not a big fan of it myself. But to clobber the people who still do? Who actually pay a sensible, industry-sustaining price for games instead of going "WISHLISTED" in every god damn release thread, and then have the "audacity" of being disappointed when devs pull off their shit, even if it is in fact nauseatingly repetitious shit?
1. There's a notable difference between preordering and buying on day one or early. Even if you buy on day one after reading reviews, you're still paying "industry-sustaining" prices.

2. The vast majority of people have a limited budget to spend on games. If they bought every game they played at full price, I would expect that people would not so much be saying "WISHLISTED" but rather "NOT BUYING BECAUSE I WANT TO SAVE MY MONEY FOR GAMES I WANT MORE". Which is preferable? Buying at a reduced price or not buying at all? I can assure you that, from my position, if the discount prices on PC werent a thing, I probably wouldn't be gaming on PC at all.
Post edited October 18, 2017 by _ChaosFox_
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_ChaosFox_: 1. There's a notable difference between preordering and buying on day one or early. Even if you buy on day one after reading reviews, you're still paying "industry-sustaining" prices.
Absolutely. And you're being much more informed. However... what with e. g. GameStar having published their exclusive Elex "review" weeks ago and ranging at the top of the percentage ratings for Elex in Germany... well. Some reviewers you can trust about the bug situation, others you really shouldn't. :)

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_ChaosFox_: 2. The vast majority of people have a limited budget to spend on games. If they bought every game they played at full price, I would expect that people would not so much be saying "WISHLISTED" but rather "NOT BUYING BECAUSE I WANT TO SAVE MY MONEY FOR GAMES I WANT MORE". Which is preferable? Buying at a reduced price or not buying at all? I can assure you that, from my position, if the discount prices on PC werent a thing, I probably wouldn't be gaming on PC at all.
Conceded as well, absolutely. I'm having a hard time swallowing AAA game prices, and when I look at consoles, oh em ge. And with microtransactions, DLC, the whole "games as a service" shebang, the digital special edition bollocks with the senseless extra items, it doesn't even stop at 60 bucks. So that's one side of the medal that's real. The other, equally very real side are rapidly declining prices, bundles and so on. Very few PC gamers don't have a "backlog" of literally hundreds of games they never even bothered playing. I've seen Daedalic put Blackguards in a Steam sale at 75% off before it was even out of Early Access, and the same guys have put the Steam version of Deponia 4 on some tabloid cover CD valued at 9.99 € at launch day. So there's both, the large scale dumping particularly in the indie scene as well as the clear cut usury of the AAAs or AAA wannabes.
Post edited October 18, 2017 by Vainamoinen