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CharlesGrey: And now you have me wondering if they created any good Fantasy series back then. I can't think of much, so I guess non of them were particularly good.

Tons of decent Action and Sci-Fi series, though. I think Sliders was pretty fun, and then there are all those Space Sci-Fi series.

Good Horror and Mystery themed shows, as well. X-Files, obviously, and I bought a box of "Poltergeist - The Legacy" a while back, which is surprisingly creepy and well made for an old TV series.
The 90s were the best of times for sci-fi on TV. Star Trek ruled that decade in it's many forms, Babylon 5 is still the pinnacle of the genre, the Flash tv show was great and I doubt we'll ever get as good a live action version of the Scarlet Speedster, the unfairly forgotten Total Recall 2070 delivered a Blade Runner like ambitious, moody series unlike anything except for maybe the earliest seasons of X-Files, and we already talked of the excellent Brisco County Jr.

But yeah, Fantasy... not so much. The only really good one I can think of is Highlander. But then, there's not many great fantasy tv series at all, in any decade. Especially live action.
Post edited October 16, 2017 by Breja
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CharlesGrey: As for the Nightmare remake, what was up with that "Freddy was a pedo" plot twist anyway? Was that ever a thing in any of the many old Freddy movies? Deranged, demonic killer, sure; but even in the remake he never tries to "rape" or even kill any children, he always goes for teenagers/(young) adults.
I believe it was always supposed to be a part of his character, but it was never explicitly said for reasons of tact I assume. It's super easy to infer it from the movies, but they only explicitly call him a child killer. His choice of victims in the original and the remake are the same: those are the children of the people who killed him, but then the remake gave him that "personal" connection to the main cast.

Edit: also, for your practical effects vs CG, yeah, I tend to agree, I'd rather see decent practical effects than bad CG.
Post edited October 16, 2017 by doccarnby
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doccarnby:
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CharlesGrey: As for the Nightmare remake, what was up with that "Freddy was a pedo" plot twist anyway? Was that ever a thing in any of the many old Freddy movies?
No, he wasn't a Priest in any of the old ones. :D
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tinyE: No, he wasn't a Priest in any of the old ones. :D
Right, that was in the second X-Files movie.
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tinyE: No, he wasn't a Priest in any of the old ones. :D
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Breja: Right, that was in the second X-Files movie.
"The Mormons are from Mars, Dad, we've had that checked out."
I think in the new Nightmare On Elm Street he's a "wrongly accused" pedo, which I hated along with the rest of it, completely changes his character.

Heh heh, have fun! I really enjoyed Undying, back when I played it a few years back. Have you played through it before?
Oh yeah, played through it when it was released back in the days.
But i can remember that i cheatet the hell out of this game blame it on the youth and impatience :)
Fun fact about this year my first death was not caused by an eldritch monster from beyond the veil of
time and space no it was a normal human that showed me his priced sabre very nice piece indeed.

And why did i forgot about the movies, Nightmare before Christmas and Corpse Bride or Sleepy Hollow
well basically everything Tim Burton put up.
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CharlesGrey: I didn't know Christopher Lee played the mummy! Guess he did it all at some point, Horror-wise. I still have a few old and new-ish Christopher Lee film DVDs sitting around here, which I plan to watch later this month or next month.
Hammer's mummy is based on the "guy in bandages" archetype, but one of the nice things about it is that Lee's mummy can strike very quickly and powerfully when he's on target, contrary to the all the old "just run away, he can't catch you!" jokes that people always make about shambling mummy movies.

I watched Friday the 13th part 4: The Final Chapter (haha!) last night. Still a dumb movie but a definite step up from the indifferently made part 3. There's an interesting idea in the movie with the guy who's related to a victim from a previous film and is now hunting the killer. Too bad the concept ended up so underdeveloped. The good news with this installment is that Jason doesn't get jobbed to a teenage girl again. The bad news is that he instead gets annihilated by a prepubescent Corey Feldman. He's trending downward. The movie also has a pre-Back to the Future appearance by Crispin Glover - I'm pretty sure that spastic dancing he does at the party was his idea.
Watched Doctor Butcher M.D., a delightfully gory but otherwise unimpressive melding of a zombie movie and a cannibal movie. The zombies were bad, looked like modern ones but acted like classic ones, and the music was... well, not great. Of note is this music sting the Amazon subtitles labelled as "shocking music" that they use all the time and is strikingly bad. Fun movie, yes, but good movie, no.
Have some catching up to do, so here's a little review double feature:

-- Oxenfree -- ( Mystery Adventure Game; DRM-free; available on GOG )

A small group of teenagers travels to an abandoned military island, to throw a beach party. As one might expect, things go terribly wrong.

This one is essentially a "Walking Sim" with a fancy multi-choice dialogue system. The writing is decent and it has some great, unique looking artwork. Due to the theme and cast of characters, there's a certain amount of teenage drama, which can be a little annoying. Gameplay-wise, Oxenfree feels rather limited and minimalistic. There's no combat or action sequences, and almost nothing that would qualify as a "puzzle". Essentially, all that's left is the conversation with the other characters, and some limited "on-rails" exploration. ( And the game doesn't exactly provide you with much incentive for exploration. )

Overall it's a nice little interactive mystery story, with a few surprises and twists. Has some creepy scenes, but might be enjoyable for people who don't normally like Horror games. 7/10

Anyone who enjoyed Oxenfree may also want to give Night in the Woods a try. In many ways a similar game, but it provides more content, variety and freedom, and is overall arguably a more satisfying experience.

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-- A Nightmare on Elm Street -- ( 1984; Wes Craven )

It had been at least some 10+ years since I'd last seen the original Nightmare on Elm Street, but I have to say it still holds up surprisingly well despite its age. It's fun, it's creative, and maintains a creepy atmosphere throughout most of the film.

I won't talk much about the plot, as I'm sure most of you have seen at least one of the Nightmare movies at some point. Some minor complaints: Freddy is still somewhat undeveloped as a character, and I think they occasionally overdid it with the special effects scenes and scares. Overall it's still a highly entertaining Horror film, and a prime example of how the 80s were the golden age of the ( modern ) Horror genre, which gave birth to so many classics. My rating: 9/10

As a little bonus, as far as I know this was also one of Johnny Depp's first movie roles, so that's kinda fun, considering how successful and popular he later turned out to be.
Post edited October 18, 2017 by CharlesGrey
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CharlesGrey: As a little bonus, as far as I know this was also one of Johnny Depp's first movie roles, so that's kinda fun, considering how successful and popular he later turned out to be.
A lot of A List actors started out in horror films, the difference with Johnny is that he continues to embrace it and even had a cameo or two in later Elm Street movies, way after he became a big star. I really appreciate that.

However a few names that come to mind, Matthew McConaughey, Hugh Grant, Renée Zellweger, really piss me off because not only do they refuse to talk about the horror movies they were in, in several cases they have tried to file suit to get them blocked from being sold or shown. They aren't snuff films for fuck's sake! What are they so embarrassed about. They've all done way worse movies then those horror films.
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Breja: ... the unfairly forgotten Total Recall 2070 delivered a Blade Runner like ambitious, moody series unlike anything except for maybe the earliest seasons of X-Files...
Unfairly forgotten, all right -- I'm not sure I've even heard of it until now. And it's a series? How long is it, just a few episodes?

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Breja: But yeah, Fantasy... not so much. The only really good one I can think of is Highlander. But then, there's not many great fantasy tv series at all, in any decade. Especially live action.
Yeah, Highlander wasn't bad, as far as I remember. Of course it's been a while... And I wasn't exactly picky about my TV consumption back then. I must have watched enough TV during the 90s to last a life time, while nowadays I have no interest in TV at all.

We'll probably get a lot more Fantasy series though, during the next few years, due to Game of Thrones' popularity.
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CharlesGrey: -- A Nightmare on Elm Street -- ( 1984; Wes Craven )
I agree, it's still a unique and inventive horror film. I would say you should check out A New Nightmare maybe next, probably you've seen it before but it's nice to continue after the first one, it's the "proper" Wes Craven sequel inplace of number two, pretty much, according to Wes.

It takes a little of the comic and one liner aspects out of Freddy and returns him to little to how he was originally, which I quite liked on reflection.

Then again all the sequels are worth a watch again.

Heh heh, have fun! I really enjoyed Undying, back when I played it a few years back. Have you played through it before?
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Dreaganos: Oh yeah, played through it when it was released back in the days.
But i can remember that i cheatet the hell out of this game blame it on the youth and impatience :)
Fun fact about this year my first death was not caused by an eldritch monster from beyond the veil of
time and space no it was a normal human that showed me his priced sabre very nice piece indeed.

And why did i forgot about the movies, Nightmare before Christmas and Corpse Bride or Sleepy Hollow
well basically everything Tim Burton put up.
Yeah, Undying is fairly challenging! I didn't cheat, but I remember I had to save often and temporarily got stuck in a few places. Great game, though.

There's a little too much singing in most of Tim Burton's films, for my tastes, but they're nice aside from that. Also, funny how I just mentioned Johnny Depp in a post, since he's in most of Tim Burton's projects!
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tinyE: A lot of A List actors started out in horror films, the difference with Johnny is that he continues to embrace it and even had a cameo or two in later Elm Street movies, way after he became a big star. I really appreciate that.
It's either that, or porn! Gotta start somewhere.

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tinyE: However a few names that come to mind, Matthew McConaughey, Hugh Grant, Renée Zellweger, really piss me off because not only do they refuse to talk about the horror movies they were in, in several cases they have tried to file suit to get them blocked from being sold or shown. They aren't snuff films for fuck's sake! What are they so embarrassed about. They've all done way worse movies then those horror films.
That's weird. I can understand a feeling of embarrassment or dissatisfaction for older works, but they'll just have to accept them as a part of their past. Besides, it's not like throwing a fit will realistically accomplish anything for them. Guess they never heard of the Streisand effect.
Post edited October 18, 2017 by CharlesGrey
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CharlesGrey: -- A Nightmare on Elm Street -- ( 1984; Wes Craven )
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bad_fur_day1: I agree, it's still a unique and inventive horror film. I would say you should check out A New Nightmare maybe next, probably you've seen it before but it's nice to continue after the first one, it's the "proper" Wes Craven sequel inplace of number two, pretty much, according to Wes.

It takes a little of the comic and one liner aspects out of Freddy and returns him to little to how he was originally, which I quite liked on reflection.

Then again all the sequels are worth a watch again.
Yeah, I think I've seen most of them at some point. New Nightmare is part 7, right? I think I have 6 and 7 on DVD here, and was planning to watch them during the next few weeks ( among a stack of other Horror DVDs ).

And that's one of the things I really like about the 80s Horror classics, they're so creative and different! And creativity and unique ideas are exactly what's sorely lacking in today's film industry. ( Or maybe it's just a matter of being unwilling to take financial risks with wild ideas. )
Post edited October 18, 2017 by CharlesGrey