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Crosmando: HypersomniacLive is just another one of the humorless, passive-aggressive self-proclaimed forum police on GOG who thinks the internets is very serious business and saying something online is the same as saying it in real-life, and that people shouldn't be allowed to have anonymity online and be allowed to fucked around and the like online.

Also, fuck all the downreppers on this board, you are cowardly little pricks. Anyone should be say what they feel without having the civility enforcement Gestapo telling them "your post is bad".
Get it all out. Catharsis is a wonderful feeling.
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Crosmando: HypersomniacLive is just another one of the humorless, passive-aggressive self-proclaimed forum police on GOG who thinks the internets is very serious business and saying something online is the same as saying it in real-life, and that people shouldn't be allowed to have anonymity online and be allowed to fucked around and the like online.

Also, fuck all the downreppers on this board, you are cowardly little pricks. Anyone should be say what they feel without having the civility enforcement Gestapo telling them "your post is bad".
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HypersomniacLive:

Get it all out. Catharsis is a wonderful feeling.
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HypersomniacLive:
Better than bottling things up.
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monkeydelarge: People always think I'm angry when I'm not. They assume me swearing = me in a state of rage. I swear a lot when I type and when I talk in real life. It is a habit. People should really stop jumping to conclusions. I was very calm in this thread until I got insulted.
It's not about anger at all. Throughout most of this thread people seem have tried to find a reason for the state of reality you have presented (that is: people being unwilling to buy things from you at prices you consider reasonable). Without further information, people can do one of three things:
- discuss the issue at this very general level (we're pretty much out of things to be said here, short of an economist jumping into this thread and giving a lecture)
- make up examples and extrapolate possible reasons (you seem to dismiss those)
- ask for additional data (you dismiss such requests)
What exactly ARE we supposed to do?
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Crosmando: Watch out niggers.
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Starmaker: 'capped.
It's hard to change. It takes time. OR maybe he realized, these past weeks, there is nothing wrong with the way he is and it is others, who are wrong.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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Starmaker: 'capped.
You need to raise your Detect Humor skill to level 17.
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Starmaker: 'capped.
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Crosmando: You need to raise your Detect Humor skill to level 17.
No, I passed the check and realized your apology was a joke.

edit: illustrated
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monkeydelarge: People always think I'm angry when I'm not. They assume me swearing = me in a state of rage. I swear a lot when I type and when I talk in real life. It is a habit. People should really stop jumping to conclusions. I was very calm in this thread until I got insulted.
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Vestin: It's not about anger at all. Throughout most of this thread people seem have tried to find a reason for the state of reality you have presented (that is: people being unwilling to buy things from you at prices you consider reasonable).
Yep, up until Tarnicus insulted me and I expressed what I think of him and his insult. Then people have been doing something else. Siding with Mr. Popular and attacking me. It's like I'm in some kind of nightmarish version of Highschool.
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monkeydelarge: It's hard to change. It takes time. OR maybe he decided, these past weeks, he is fine, the way he is and it is others, who are wrong.
No, I was genuine when I apologized for offending anyone. I have not changed my opinion on 'forum culture' and the concept of "enforced civility" on internet boards.

Just look at my posts earlier in this thread, mercilessly downrepped just for expressing my opinion.
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Starmaker: No, I passed the check and realized your apology was a joke.
Not true.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by Crosmando
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Khadgar42: Some people have to haggle, others hate it with passion. In Europe there are countries where you have to haggle the price to less than 50% otherwise you get a horrible deal and the vendor is disatisfied. While in other countries the vendor would be upset if you just ask for 5%.
Sometimes this attitude changes because of the economy or some new laws & taxes or maybe just because of migration.

But the main thing probably is that you haven't expected them to haggle. You want to sell something add +50% price and let them haggle, if they haggle the price down by 1/3 they feel like they made a bargain, you get the same amount that you initally wanted and everybody is happy.
If +50% is too expensive you just have to wait, or you just don't mention prices at all.

When people see that you are offering the wares too cheap (which you probably did) they get unreasonable demanding even more.
Look at the Origin Humble Bumblebee and how people where demanding even MOAR games for like $6 BTA prices for TrippleA titles that where sold normally for $40 to $60 (or 40€ - 60€ in Germany) on Steam and Origin.
It's like that in China. Except for Walmart and a few of the chains, just about every price is up for negotiation. I even haggled down the price of a hotel room as I was checking out. I'm still not sure how that was OK, but they let me do it and didn't call the cops.

In tourist areas, the markup is about 2/3 above the normal price for the item. So, they're probably asking for about 6x what the product is really worth. They'll cry about how they aren't making any money on the deal, but if that were the case, they do have the right to refuse to sell for a price that's too low.
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Man, you take one nap and langurmonkey's up and being langurmonkey again.

Ya know maybe the fact that you "speak your mind" (implying the trite observations of such a mind weren't worthless to begin with) would be a primary reason why "strangers" are the first group of people you think of when referring to the physical world rather than say friends or family.

It's also hypocritical since everyone who's "trolling" or "attacking" you are freely exercising their right to "speak their mind" but since you are on the ass-end of said criticisms they apparently don't count as valid.

Join a club and make some friends you can actually high-five, I do believe you were the one who was asking for help in that regard anyway.
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teshra: When you have one person siding with you and everyone else not, guess what?
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monkeydelarge: That doesn't mean anything other than this forum, having a large number of childish cunts, trolls and anal polite police. And considering the way all of you swarm in on like the fucking Zerg, of course, others who are on my side, don't openly side with me. It's not worth it for them because I'm just a stranger(not a friend or a family member) and they don't want a dozen nerds bitching at them for supporting such "appalling" behavior. The same kind of bitching that usually comes from old women...
Having just read this thread, this kind of response is out of all proportion. As you kindly pointed out to another member, there is also the "bitch about life in general", which would perhaps suit your needs just as well. Unless you are talking about selling something that is life saving, ie medicine etc then your answer is simple..if you do not believe that you are being offered a fair price for your goods, then don't sell.

*translation of the above paragraph to words similar to your usage" - grow the fuck up and move on.

Time on this world for you, is what you make it - don't cause yourself stress, you will get enough of that in general. Most importantly, your health won't suffer.
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monkeydelarge: That doesn't mean anything other than this forum, having a large number of childish cunts, trolls and anal polite police. And considering the way all of you swarm in on like the fucking Zerg, of course, others who are on my side, don't openly side with me. It's not worth it for them because I'm just a stranger(not a friend or a family member) and they don't want a dozen nerds bitching at them for supporting such "appalling" behavior. The same kind of bitching that usually comes from old women...
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Ian: Having just read this thread, this kind of response is out of all proportion. As you kindly pointed out to another member, there is also the "bitch about life in general", which would perhaps suit your needs just as well. Unless you are talking about selling something that is life saving, ie medicine etc then your answer is simple..if you do not believe that you are being offered a fair price for your goods, then don't sell.

*translation of the above paragraph to words similar to your usage" - grow the fuck up and move on.

Time on this world for you, is what you make it - don't cause yourself stress, you will get enough of that in general. Most importantly, your health won't suffer.
Grow the fuck up? Complaining about insanely cheap people is childish? I don't think so. In fact, when you think something is wrong, I think complaining about something is the adult thing to do. It is also healthy to vent and not keep things bottled inside you. It's also difficult for most people to put themselves in the shoes of others... So that is why you don't understand why my response you are talking about, is not out of all proportion. It is the proper response considering the what this thread has become and how some of the people here have been treating me.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
Pages and pages of "Why do people feel entitled to their money, when I'm entitled to their money? What do you mean I'm the a-hole? It's not me, it's the whole damn world with the problem." The world is crazy not me is rarely a valid argument, and feeding the need to win an argument (regardless of rightness) often isn't worth all the pain it takes to secure victory.

Nobody likes admitting they are the source of some problem, but those that absolutely can't ever admit fault are doomed to exhaust themselves and everyone around them in an effort to prove to the world they are perfectly fine. There is no peace in that, and some of the best moments of my life are when I finally said to myself, you know you are the problem. Those moments suck, and hurt, but they are also liberating, freeing, and changing. I still avoid them when I can because they do suck, but I'm glad for every time I did it, and it even scares me a little to think about who I might be if I never bothered with that sort of thing.

Best thing to do is stop fighting. You said something, people didn't like it, you got hurt. Just let it be, fighting always leads to more fighting. People aren't going to change their minds, and you aren't going to get any emotional restoration, or vindication (or whatever it is you want) by arguing about who has the moral high ground. There is no moral high ground left if there ever was any to begin with.
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gooberking: Pages and pages of "Why do people feel entitled to their money, when I'm entitled to their money? What do you mean I'm the a-hole? It's not me, it's the whole damn world with the problem." The world is crazy not me is rarely a valid argument, and feeding the need to win an argument (regardless of rightness) often isn't worth all the pain it takes to secure victory.

Nobody likes admitting they are the source of some problem, but those that absolutely can't ever admit fault are doomed to exhaust themselves and everyone around them in an effort to prove to the world they are perfectly fine. There is no peace in that, and some of the best moments of my life are when I finally said to myself, you know you are the problem. Those moments suck, and hurt, but they are also liberating, freeing, and changing. I still avoid them when I can because they do suck, but I'm glad for every time I did it, and it even scares me a little to think about who I might be if I never bothered with that sort of thing.

Best thing to do is stop fighting. You said something, people didn't like it, you got hurt. Just let it be, fighting always leads to more fighting. People aren't going to change their minds, and you aren't going to get any emotional restoration, or vindication (or whatever it is you want) by arguing about who has the moral high ground. There is no moral high ground left if there ever was any to begin with.
Another post, insulting me(you are calling me an asshole, right?) and twisting my words into something to make me look bad. You call, not wanting to sell something for peanuts after you spent a large amount of money purchasing something, feeling entitled to other people's money.... And you should always put up a fight when people are attacking you. Being a push over is no way to go through life.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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Ian: Having just read this thread, this kind of response is out of all proportion. As you kindly pointed out to another member, there is also the "bitch about life in general", which would perhaps suit your needs just as well. Unless you are talking about selling something that is life saving, ie medicine etc then your answer is simple..if you do not believe that you are being offered a fair price for your goods, then don't sell.

*translation of the above paragraph to words similar to your usage" - grow the fuck up and move on.

Time on this world for you, is what you make it - don't cause yourself stress, you will get enough of that in general. Most importantly, your health won't suffer.
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monkeydelarge: Grow the fuck up? Complaining about insanely cheap people is childish? I don't think so. In fact, when you think something is wrong, I think complaining about something is the adult thing to do. It is also healthy to vent and not keep things bottled inside you. It's also difficult for most people to put themselves in the shoes of others... So that is why you don't understand why my response you are talking about, is not out of all proportion. It is the proper response considering the what this thread has become and how some of the people here have been treating me.
you missed the most important part of my post - Time on this world for you, is what you make it - don't cause yourself stress, you will get enough of that in general. Most importantly, your health won't suffer. I meant this - if u want to rant for hours on end, become a politician - your health is the most important thing in the world.