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you fail to understand one thing... they are selling a drm single player games here on gog, they are also selling some gog galaxy exclusive games (even if multiplayer was not drm-free for some games even before, you didn't need any client).
Also the developer of Gremlins, Inc. will only release some update to the DRM version of the game so those who want to play with the drm-free version will use an old and not updated version.

I just cannot justify prefer gog anymore if they don't keep their own principles... I will just use humble bundle, developer site and sometimes steam (at least their client is not a limited browser like galaxy, and I can even add my not-steam games).

Sure I will still only buy drm-free game, but there are many drm-free games on steam too (and if I have to use a client there is no reason to use galaxy).
I would not call it fear, but will give an example why I am eyeing the developments here with Galaxy. If you read the comments in the new Bethesda release threads, you will notice many people calling for GOG connect and why it is not avaliable for them.

They complain, because they bought the games from a company which runs a closed third party system, meaning without the third party software the game will not be available or not be available after that company has closed down or not be available when they do not have an internet connection for a long time.

You see where I am going with this?.

PS

Before the "but some games can be run without" the client faction chimes in, I know, but that is not the point when only "some" games work or only work offline for a determined time.
Post edited June 04, 2017 by MaGo72
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HypersomniacLive: Start here, be warned though that the thread is a long read.
Thanks for the link. If you cut through the fear mongering and stick with stated facts, it's a checkbox on install - not the installer itself. I have to go in to a separate page and make half-a-dozen clicks to change my folder on every install. Simply unchecking a box would be nirvana by comparison.

Having read all that, I agree that having a "No, never install Galaxy" option would be a good alternative, but wouldn't haters just start complaining that GoG is now writing arbitrarily into their registries? ;)
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LiefLayer: you fail to understand one thing... they are selling a drm single player games here on gog, they are also selling some gog galaxy exclusive games...
No they are not. they are selling ONE game on GOG were the single player is the EXACT same (minus online item drops) in two versions that you get in ONE purchase where one version needs online and the other does not. This is a UNIQUE case because they game was originally designed as an online game, not the norm. A completely fine compromise to most people here.

Any other case involving Galaxy deals with in development games covered by the user agreement you agree to when using GOG. Not released products.

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LiefLayer: Also the developer of Gremlins, Inc. will only release some update to the DRM version of the game so those who want to play with the drm-free version will use an old and not updated version.
That's not true at all, they said they would update the single player portion of Gremlins vs Automations when changes are made to the single player portion of Gremlins, Inc.

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LiefLayer: I just cannot justify prefer gog anymore if they don't keep their own principles... I will just use humble bundle, developer site and sometimes steam (at least their client is not a limited browser like galaxy, and I can even add my not-steam games).
Which is your choice, doesn't make your narrative true however...

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LiefLayer: Sure I will still only buy drm-free game, but there are many drm-free games on steam too (and if I have to use a client there is no reason to use galaxy).
Sure because Steam provides installers, better support for old games, good customer support, and isn't riddled with 3rd party DRM that they don't always tell you about. Oh wait...

Steam some things better yes, but GOG very much still has a place and still does other stuff better too.
Post edited June 04, 2017 by user deleted
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LiefLayer: Gremlins, Inc.
Never seen this game before. It appears that Galaxy is not needed for single player, only multi. The devs designed it to require a server, GoG/Steam have nothing to do with this. Would you prefer the game itself log into some online service that's just going to be shut off one day? I see what you're driving at, but you have to see past your own fears here. Having GoG in control of that server sounds far more secure to me.
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LiefLayer: Also the developer of Gremlins, Inc. will only release some update to the DRM version of the game so those who want to play with the drm-free version will use an old and not updated version.
Where did you find this information?
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MaGo72: Before the "but some games can be run without" the client faction chimes in, I know, but that is not the point when only "some" games work or only work offline for a determined time.
Pretty much all games on Galaxy can run offline forever with or without Galaxy for single player (except a few specific cases we already covered here GWENT (a in BETA game) and Gremlins, Inc. (for that use companion product that offers the same single player: Gremlins vs Automations) )

You can even transfer them from computer A to computer B without Galaxy if you know how to copy the registry (when it's needed). But it many cases you may find copying the game folder is enough.

It's different than on Steam, you will find on Steam launching a game will REQUIRE/OPEN Steam to play in many cases due to the Steamworks CEG DRM. This is not the case with Galaxy, games are not depended on Galaxy and running the exe will not open Galaxy at all.

But thankfully this is why GOG gives us standalone installers to make that process easy and convenient. I hope eventually they will also add a true backup feature to Galaxy allowing us to basically create our own standalone installers.
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Yeah, my PS was referring to the company with the closed system, not GOG. I thought that would be clear, but seems fanboys close their eyes with intent. And it is not about what Galaxy is, but what it will be perhaps.
Post edited June 04, 2017 by MaGo72
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LiefLayer: Also the developer of Gremlins, Inc. will only release some update to the DRM version of the game so those who want to play with the drm-free version will use an old and not updated version.
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Mobeeuz: Where did you find this information?
I don't know where LiefLayer is getting this info, probably from that top review done by cemacar which is ridiculous. What he links to refutes his own claim that the dev said they are "not going to update offline version of the game".

What they actually said was the no DLC was designed for the offline version (fair enough) but they DO update the offline version when major changes are made to the single player portion of Gremlins, Inc.

* We keep updating Gremlins vs Automatons whenever we introduce major changes to the single-player mode of Gremlins, Inc. – i.e. any changes in game mechanics (balancing) or new content (new cards).

E.g. there will be new cards in the Summer Season update in June, and these are added to both online and offline products.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_gremlins_inc_dlc_84440/post188

I have to think people agree with said review without actually checking to see if what cemacar claimed is true... just points how dumb GOG's current review system is.
Post edited June 05, 2017 by user deleted
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LOL you know the truth but you say it like a positive thing...
Just open your eyes fanboy.
"minor" changes and DLC it's why the game will not be always updated.


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That's the reason why I will use humble bundle or the developer site most of the time.
But if I have to use Galaxy or Steam I prefer Steam.
Post edited June 05, 2017 by LiefLayer
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LiefLayer: LOL you know the truth but you say it like a positive thing...
Just open your eyes fanboy.
"minor" changes and DLC it's why the game will not be always updated.
I can actually read... they said it will be updated in June, hence this month, hence it will get updates. Hence what you said is factually wrong.

EDIT: Also fanboy? I hate this developer, said so when the game released. Doesn't mean I won't support them when wrong information is being spread.
Post edited June 05, 2017 by user deleted
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timppu: The plans to include it on all GOG offline installers sounds negative
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Mobeeuz: Where did you read this?
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/offline_installers_with_an_option_to_install_gog_galaxy/page1

I claimed they'd add it to "all" installers, but not all, many.
The Bottom line GOG..........Keep everyone happy. GOG STAFF READ!

*Make sure downloads from the website will always be available FOREVEVER!
*Remove the Galaxy Installer from games downloaded from your website (we all know how to download Galaxy)
*Keep the Galaxy Client 100% Optional (We understanding Dev's may require it for multiplayer)
*Make the client more valuable (Give us VPN style support with your client. Be our Hamachi!)
*Make the client more valuable (Give us profiles, and a wall for screenshots)
*Make all downloads available from Galaxy, and the website.
*If a dev chooses to use Galaxy for the multiplayer, make it known on the store page. Bold type, first line

I think if GOG sticks with terms I just posted, and makes it known thats their goal everyone will be happy.


*Drops Mic,
carry on kiddo's
the fear is that it may not be optional at some point, congrats on trying it and liking it tho :)
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timppu: I claimed they'd add it to "all" installers, but not all, many.
Thanks for the link. Sorry, I thought I was replying to you when I typed this.
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UltraComboTV: The Bottom line GOG..........Keep everyone happy. GOG STAFF READ!

*Make sure downloads from the website will always be available FOREVEVER!
*Remove the Galaxy Installer from games downloaded from your website (we all know how to download Galaxy)
*Keep the Galaxy Client 100% Optional (We understanding Dev's may require it for multiplayer)
*Make the client more valuable (Give us VPN style support with your client. Be our Hamachi!)
*Make the client more valuable (Give us profiles, and a wall for screenshots)
*Make all downloads available from Galaxy, and the website.
*If a dev chooses to use Galaxy for the multiplayer, make it known on the store page. Bold type, first line

I think if GOG sticks with terms I just posted, and makes it known thats their goal everyone will be happy.

*Drops Mic,
carry on kiddo's
I have to say this sounds like a good list of things to have.


I bought like 2 game on Steam (got a game or 2 free) before I found out I needed to be online to play the games. As of today, I have 15 games on Steam (2 I bought on steam, like 3-4 are freebies, and rest I just got from a DRM free bundle from Humble Bundle) vs 919 from GOG.

I buy the games here because I don't have to worry about DRM and I like having all my games in one place. Kinda feel guilty about buying the Humble Bundle, but it was a good deal.

With that said, I've been using Galaxy almost from the beginning. I love it, makes it easy to manage my collection...kinda. Could use some more features.

As long as Galaxy is just an option, I've no problem with it. And as long as GOG stays DRM free, I'll continue to buying from here.