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You can assume I fear it as much as you want, I still won't use it. It's not quality software and I don't want it.
Not sure what the hate is either really. If it seems less robust, that is probably because there is more backlash then suggestions for improvement. Many old games require some 3rd party app to play MP now due to services that are long dead. If you are going to have to use Hamachi or GameRanger anyway, what's the difference?

So to put my money where my mouth is, I'll make a few suggestions:

1) Expand the MP capabilities of Galaxy and add a Hamachi/GameRanger level of connectivity so any old game with IPX support can use it. This would also bring about the need to add non-GOG titles to Galaxy.
2) Add the original Shelf design from the old GoG site (or something similar) to the client so we can obsess over our collection. Custom box pics and all.
3) Add support to create an optional Galaxy-Based shortcut so we don't have to use Galaxy as a launcher in order to take advantage of its features. E.G. I don't want to have to make 5 clicks in order to play Deus-Ex Revision with achievements.

Have better ideas? Suggest away...
I don't understand why use it at all:
- if I want to download/update games there is a thing called browser (Firefox, Opera etc...).
- if I want cloud save I can upload my local save into my dropbox or mega account and I don't need to worry about support for that feature (galaxy only support few games).
- if I want multiplayer I just play games that don't require a client to play multiplayer.
- if I want achievements there are lot's of games that integrate them inside the game.
- if I want to port a windows only game with wineskin on mac I cannot add my game into galaxy (because it only accept gog games).
- if I want to play on Linux, galaxy is not there.
- if i want to add an already drm-free games bought on humble bundle or even steam I cannot do that.

Finally... If I want a client Steam is much better.

The only reason to use gog is because you don't need a client at all.

If I need a client to play I can just use steam. If I need an hub I can add my gog/humble bundle etc games to steam. If I need cloud save steam support them for 90% of games. If I need multiplayer steam support it, same with achievements. And Linux is an option with steam.

I've galaxy installed in my computer right now, but I only start it to try new features like cloud save (and I discover that it was impossible to do a cloud save without download every games again even with local save still on the computer... and I even had to do an update for every games... and I had a local backup on my external HDD... before be able to upload my save to the cloud)... Still I usually don't even use it as a downloader because the browser is much better. And when I need to update a game it is usually faster to just download it again since the compressed game is much smaller than the usual redownload that gog galaxy does (steam when there is an update does not redownload most of the game... usually).

it was even impossible to recover an old version of Dreamfall Chapters before book 5... They changed a lot's of things in book 1 and I wanted to recover an old version with galaxy, but it was impossible.

Right now I don't really know if I want to use gog since they release galaxy drm games like Gwent.... Sure I want exclusive drm-free games like Fallout new vegas... But I will not buy games that I can find drm-free elsewhere.
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eumerius: I've just tried it and it is super awesome. Nothing negative about it. I do not understand why some people do not like it.
I am mostly indifferent about it, as long as I am not forced to use it for single-player games.

The plans to include it on all GOG offline installers sounds negative, mainly if it considerably increases the size of all installers for something I don't intend to use. If they leave only a small (2MB) stub installer there, I'm fine, but I still feel they are doing a rather odd move pushing Galaxy (since, people who decide to download offline installers are basically those who have decided not to use Galaxy, so why push it to them that way?).

Like someone said, if I was really into using a store specific client to manage and run my games... why then wouldn't I simply use Steam instead? What is the benefit of using Galaxy over Steam? For the few games that GOG has but Steam doesn't?

Yeah, to me that I can have client and DRM-free single-player games from GOG, is the reason to purchase from GOG. If not, then I guess Steam it is.

For instance, I already had e.g. Fallout 3, New Vegas and Oblivion on Steam, but I just repurchased them from GOG. Why? Because with the GOG versions I don't have to use a client and they are officially supported as client- and DRM-free. If the GOG versions would have required one to use Galaxy to play them... then why would I have bought them on GOG (instead of Steam)?

Question back to you: what are your reasons to buy a game from GOG, instead of Steam? Since you are fine with clients, why not just use Steam? Or do you buy from GOG only in those rare cases that some games appears on GOG, and not Steam, otherwise you buy everything in Steam?
Post edited June 04, 2017 by timppu
Personally, I'm very excited about it.
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LiefLayer: The only reason to use gog is because you don't need a client at all.
And you still don't, where is the problem? Galaxy is still new, still growing, and still optional. You didn't have to redownload a thing, you could have just uninstalled Galaxy and continued to use your old methods. Since Galaxy's features don't interest you, why did you even install it?

What's strange about your post is that you seem fine with a client and even DRM, but only if it's Valve. I don't know if you were there for the first iterations of Steam, but it was awful - and mandatory to boot.

TLDR: Deciding what's right for you is choice, deciding it for others is fascism.
Post edited June 04, 2017 by Mobeeuz
To be honest I took the Galaxy pill and haven't turned back since, I cannot do without automated instant updating. I honestly don't know how I managed back in the "old" days having all my GOG games (all 1000+ of them) neatly organized by folder, with the GOG downloaders and patches inside, and whenever a game got a new patch I would dutifully copy it to said folder. Extreme autism maybe.

But anyway I do very much hope GOG continues to support exe downloaders forever, as without that there honestly isn't that much difference between them and Steam.
Post edited June 04, 2017 by Crosmando
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timppu: The plans to include it on all GOG offline installers sounds negative
Where did you read this?
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Mobeeuz: And you still don't
Gwent

PS. I'm not ok with clients in general. But if there is only client-not-free place where I can buy games of course steam is the way. I use gog because I want to avoid clients.
Post edited June 04, 2017 by LiefLayer
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LiefLayer: Gwent
You don't need it for any RELEASED game on GOG. Let me post what I posted for another user... read the user agreement which GOG lays out everything for you. Particularly section 5 with deals with beta content:

5.1 As GOG.com develops, we may offer you optional access to 'beta' versions of GOG software or services (e.g. new versions of the GOG Galaxy client made available prior to its general release) or GOG content (more on that later).
We may offer beta access to new releases of GOG software or services. Beta versions aren't complete and we're not responsible for what happens while you're using them. Fear not, they should not blow up your computer!
Here are the rules:
a) We (or any applicable publisher/partner) will set the conditions and requirements for your beta access. Providing and maintaining a beta, and who can use a beta, is at our discretion.
b) You may be required to go through a registation process or other requirements to access the beta (and this may include you meeting eligibility criteria).
c) Betas will be time-limited and there may be extra contract requirements.
d) The beta may involve temporary or permanent server/progress/content wipes, resets or amendments.
e) The beta may be subject to confidentiality restrictions (which will be notified to you in advance if so).
f) You may be invited to participate in a feedback process regarding the beta – this is totally optional but would be really valued.
g) The beta is for your use and enjoyment, so you must not sell, loan or otherwise transfer it to anyone else.
h) The point of you getting beta access is allow you try something new, but we would expect you to recognise that it will not be complete yet. Therefore betas will be provided 'as is' without any additional promises from us or any liability on us if it is not complete or does not work fully or causes issues. Betas may not be totally feature-complete and there may be feature changes, modifications or removals during the beta.
 
We may provide access to GOG content in beta/pre-release form. For example, a publisher/partner may decide to release a game or a part of it in beta, or may join our ‘Games in Development’ program (see section 6 below). Any such GOG content will also be governed by these rules unless the relevant publisher specififes its own rules (which will prevail over these rules).
This entire GWENT is DRM BS is nonsense. You agree to the user agreement by using GOG and GOG makes it clear they (or partners) set the conditions and requirements for BETA access including if it needs Galaxy.
Post edited June 04, 2017 by user deleted
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LiefLayer: Gwent
Sorry, I know nothing about this, it requires Galaxy to play single player?
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Mobeeuz: Sorry, I know nothing about this, it requires Galaxy to play single player?
It has no single player.. it's in BETA and is being tested with Galaxy for online play. So for now, you can't play it without Galaxy.
Fear has nothing to do with a conscious decision as to how to handle my DRM-free, standalone game installers.



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Mobeeuz: Where did you read this?
Start here, be warned though that the thread is a long read.
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Gremlins, Inc.
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Mobeeuz: Sorry, I know nothing about this, it requires Galaxy to play single player?
Gremlins, Inc.
Post edited June 04, 2017 by LiefLayer
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LiefLayer: Gremlins, Inc.
Gremlins vs Automations, same game... same single player. Offered in the same purchase for offline play. Please try again. You grasping at straws like many users do here to fit your narrative.