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I believe old versions should be included when people buy the new beamdog versions. More here on GOG, but as some say, maybe that was part of the old GOG.

I own both of them, and I am happy with both visions of Baldur´s Gate, but probably I would be very unhappy if I never bought the originals and now, I have no way to find them here. This would really piss me off to be honest.

For whatever the reason, having games coming in and out of the website is not good at all and doesn´t give us any sense of security.
Post edited June 22, 2017 by YaTEdiGo
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YaTEdiGo: I believe old versions should be included when people buy the new beamdog versions. More here on GOG, but as some say, maybe that was part of the old GOG.

I own both of them, and I am happy with both visions of Baldur´s Gate, but probably I would be very unhappy if I never bought the originals and now, I have no way to find them here. This would really piss me off to be honest.

For whatever the reason, having games coming in and out of the website is not good at all and doesn´t give us any sense of security.
The original version is included with the Enhanced Editions.
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YaTEdiGo: I believe old versions should be included when people buy the new beamdog versions. More here on GOG, but as some say, maybe that was part of the old GOG.

I own both of them, and I am happy with both visions of Baldur´s Gate, but probably I would be very unhappy if I never bought the originals and now, I have no way to find them here. This would really piss me off to be honest.

For whatever the reason, having games coming in and out of the website is not good at all and doesn´t give us any sense of security.
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paladin181: The original version is included with the Enhanced Editions.
Downside is that you pay twice as much now to get them. Unfortunate if a customer is wanting only the 'classic' versions. But that's what sales are for, I suppose.
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inc09nito: They decide what and how they sell.
errr what? Sorry but no. If GOG wants to sell a game and the rights holder says no then they can't. Period. No ifs ands or buts.

I had some stuff that elaborated on that point.. but screw it. That's primary salient point. You make it sound as though GOG could keep selling the games if they really wanted to, but if Hasbro said no, then no, they can't. Period.
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inc09nito: They decide what and how they sell.
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molerat: errr what? Sorry but no. If GOG wants to sell a game and the rights holder says no then they can't. Period. No ifs ands or buts.

I had some stuff that elaborated on that point.. but screw it. That's primary salient point. You make it sound as though GOG could keep selling the games if they really wanted to, but if Hasbro said no, then no, they can't. Period.
I think he meant they decide, assuming the publisher/rights holder is willing to let GOG carry their game, whether or not they want to offer the game on their site. They could have told Beamdog: "Nope, not gonna sell your EE here if you force the originals to be bundled".

But I think GOG actually felt it was better to have a way for people to still get the originals here than not have them at all. I think it was actually the exact opposite of not caring about the customer - in this case, at least.
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molerat: errr what? Sorry but no. If GOG wants to sell a game and the rights holder says no then they can't. Period. No ifs ands or buts.

I had some stuff that elaborated on that point.. but screw it. That's primary salient point. You make it sound as though GOG could keep selling the games if they really wanted to, but if Hasbro said no, then no, they can't. Period.
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GR00T: I think he meant they decide, assuming the publisher/rights holder is willing to let GOG carry their game, whether or not they want to offer the game on their site. They could have told Beamdog: "Nope, not gonna sell your EE here if you force the originals to be bundled".

But I think GOG actually felt it was better to have a way for people to still get the originals here than not have them at all. I think it was actually the exact opposite of not caring about the customer - in this case, at least.
I suppose that could be what he meant. That would be an even worse scenario because, lets face it, GOG is small fry. If they tried to threaten that then Hasbro et al would just say, "Steam exclusivity it is then, see ya."
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GR00T: I think he meant they decide, assuming the publisher/rights holder is willing to let GOG carry their game, whether or not they want to offer the game on their site. They could have told Beamdog: "Nope, not gonna sell your EE here if you force the originals to be bundled".

But I think GOG actually felt it was better to have a way for people to still get the originals here than not have them at all. I think it was actually the exact opposite of not caring about the customer - in this case, at least.
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molerat: I suppose that could be what he meant. That would be an even worse scenario because, lets face it, GOG is small fry. If they tried to threaten that then Hasbro et al would just say, "Steam exclusivity it is then, see ya."
Yeah, GOG is too big by now to really care for the user-base anymore but also too small to compete with the giants.
It's an awkward position for all parties involved.
Personally, I'd have preferred them to stay small and not get some of the (Windows exclusive) AAA titles in exchange for the lost principles.
Post edited June 22, 2017 by Klumpen0815
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Klumpen0815: Personally, I'd have preferred them to stay small and not get some of the (Windows exclusive) AAA titles in exchange for the lost principles.
Yeah, me too. Good old Games.
Well, I would just find a copy of CD3. I already bought the game twice physically (and the cds dying due to use or moving mishaps is annoying).
I voted, but until it's separate again, I am not touching the EE, even if it comes with the original.

Too much bad blood with that company (and its rabid horde of white knights who somehow justify not releasing patches for a particular set of customers) and me.
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TTripweed: and its rabid horde of white knights who somehow justify not releasing patches for a particular set of customers
What is this about?
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YaTEdiGo: I believe old versions should be included when people buy the new beamdog versions. More here on GOG, but as some say, maybe that was part of the old GOG.

I own both of them, and I am happy with both visions of Baldur´s Gate, but probably I would be very unhappy if I never bought the originals and now, I have no way to find them here. This would really piss me off to be honest.

For whatever the reason, having games coming in and out of the website is not good at all and doesn´t give us any sense of security.
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paladin181: The original version is included with the Enhanced Editions.
oh really? i didn´t know as I bought the original versions long time ago here on GOG when they been first released (day 1 probably) and much later beam dog ones, so where is the problem then?
Post edited June 23, 2017 by YaTEdiGo
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YaTEdiGo: so where is the problem then?
People would prefer to not add to the statistics of the Beamdog Editions, but get the originals on their own. I would wager that this is at least part of the reason they merged them at all, Beamdog realised that the originals were selling too well and wanted to increase the sales of their -more expensive- "enhanced" editions, and GOG -knowing their userbase- proposed to bundle the originals rather than remove them alltogether.
Post edited June 23, 2017 by Maighstir
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ZFR: For BG at least, both enhanced and original were sold together for a long time.
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JMich: Ah, thank you. Memory isn't what it used to be.
Weren't you around the last two or three times this has come up? You should probably make a note, just in case it happens again. :-P
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YaTEdiGo: oh really? i didn´t know as I bought the original versions long time ago here on GOG when they been first released (day 1 probably) and much later beam dog ones, so where is the problem then?
Some people hate Beamdog for trying to make a good thing better and making it so that using complex mods to get the games working on modern systems isn't necessary for inexperienced users. They see it as a "cash-grab" (despite all the work Beamdog actually put into the games) and resent that. So they don't want to support Beamdog. Their prerogative, but I think it's childish to cut off your nose to spite your face. Most of the people grumbling are like you and me; we already owned the original and so did they, so their access to the original titles was never altered or reduced. I personally love the enhanced editions and think they look great. I'd love to see the games ported to Obsidian's newer version of the Infinity Engine built in Unity. It won't happen because of the sheer amount of work to make all the character sprites into 3D models, but it would be impressive none the less.



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Maighstir: People would prefer to not add to the statistics of the Beamdog Editions, but get the originals on their own. I would wager that this is at least part of the reason they merged them at all, Beamdog realised that the originals were selling too well and wanted to increase the sales of their -more expensive- "enhanced" editions, and GOG -knowing their userbase- proposed to bundle the originals rather than remove them alltogether.
Which is impressive in itself as well considering HASBRO, not Beamdog would be the only entity capable of making that decision since Beamdog doesn't own the rights to the originals and has no control over whether they are sold here or not. But people want to continue to make Beamdog the villains here so, please go ahead and continue.
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TTripweed: and its rabid horde of white knights who somehow justify not releasing patches for a particular set of customers
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Nightblair: What is this about?
Beamdog has had a wonderful run with iOS customers for BG2 "EE". You see, there was a patch that PC users got. iOS users... well, didn't. Then PC users got another patch. Meanwhile, iOS users were still 2 patches earlier.
When asked about this on the forums, they at first deleted the messages, and later said they submitted the patches but that Apple didn't approve.
Meanwhile, Apple said that nothing was ever submitted to them in the first place, so there was nothing to approve.

TL;DR
Beamdog screwed over their iOS customers by not patching the game, and then lied about having submitted it, trying to shift blame.

As well Paladin, you are *EXACTLY* the White Knight I am talking about.
Ignore the cashgrabby nature they constantly display and claim they "worked a lot" when most of the work was directly lifted from patches released almost a decade earlier.
The only original content made by these people were bad NPC mod level stuff.
Let's not even go towards PR disasters where the Beamdog lead writer for SoD said that BG1 was "sexist" and how a lot of critics on the expansion were silenced with "you just hate transpeople!" (Seriously, it seems like that was the only reason the character was put in, have an easy straw to grasp when someone criticizes the rather bad and way too overpriced expansion pack)

I don't like companies who lie to their customers, derrive them of a playable product and pretty much just take other peoples work, slap their name on it and an afterthought "thank you" in the credits and sell it.

You seem to act as if the originals needed computer coding knowledge to set up, when that isn't the case. Because the fix packs acted like a patch.
You download it. You run it. Ta-daaaaa.
The only thing they got right is multiplayer, and even that was still a rather buggy mess.