Eh, don't know if the game's good or not, but i'll just start by suggestiing that people stop suggesting gog for their drm-free storefront. My little attatchment shows why they not only can't be trusted, but why it's not in the developer's best interest for a drm-free release. In fact, it's just plain costly.

We (more or less) used to...it was called the wishlist and it was grand...then they named it Old Yeller and took it out back to go visit the rabbits.

- Well they can't get some old games like those in legal limbo or where the rights owners won't sell on GOG no matter what. That said I agree on it being more or less a joke for awhile now.

They use that('boutique curation') as a selling point, if you can believe that.

Seeing as they only(or near only) hire in Poland and all international applicants must move to Poland(for tax purposes, iirc) if hired, you can likely see why they're short staffed.

how about we pickle it instead of curing? we could use gin! then you should know better.
nevermind the failed "coins" thing, steam keys (among others) that never worked and were never replaced and a host of other issues.

Would you be willing to talk about the bundle? I do not know how they were in the past, but I would be more than willing to shoot Christian or Azure an email and see if we can fix it. I personally have mentioned several things to the staff which they fixed immediately. For instance, one of the game files was not there in a recent bundle. So I posted about it in chat. Azure checked it, saw it was not there and uploaded the file immediately.

I personally apologize for your situation and if you could describe the issue with the bundle, no matter how old it is, I can see if it can be fixed in some way. If not, then I will explain exactly why the issue cannot be relegated.
Explain those issues. I never used the coin system and they don't really do the steam key thing that much anymore. They like to do a more DRM-Free option with their games, which is why you're here, right? The biggest problem people have is that the H-Games are censored, but there is not much that can be done due to the publisher there.

I will say that they added the option to multiple download everything at once now, so that definitely makes things easier. Apparently the company didn't do so well in the past, but they are doing a pretty good job as of current. Very little complaints other than censored H-Games. (Mosaics, which are common for some games of that genre).

Aside from all these issues, which I would gladly be willing to hear and send to the staff to see what went wrong and what can be fixed, at least I can say that they're transparent. They actually respond when you send them an email, at least in my case.

Take me for example. I used to cover heavy metal records and work with a lot of publicists, yes even in Poland. So I knew publicists that could make things happen. I always wanted to have a heavy metal bundle of albums, because I like buying things in bundles. Especially music. So I simply sent an email and provided the information to publicists, they jumped onboard and we even sold my former band's records as well as some other acts I knew and were making music. Other bundles came, like a thrash bundle, a death metal bundle and even a couple of weird Russian music bundles, which did well.

So yeah, things happen. I have no idea what the issue here with GOG is, and if it is legitimately the language barrier I would use Google translate. Look, one of the small Polish labels I worked with was owned by a guy by the name of Destructor. He didn't know much English at all, but he did the best he could and I simply filled in the blanks and responded accordingly. They made pretty good tunes, just the language barrier was a bit much.

Well, then. Think about it like this. If people are going to complain, then give it to them. See how well it does and if they are willing to put their money where their mouth is. Money talks. If such and such game that you're crying about does well on the platform and makes a substantial amount of money, then that is all there is to it. If it doesn't, then there is a good possibility that other games won't be looked at in the same way.

However, we already know what people want. We have steam reviews, Metacritic reviews (if you can weed out the trolls) and other sources that can be checked by gamers who bought and did not refund the game. The last thing any business wants is refunds. Again, money talks.

It's simply like this:

"Here's your game, now buy it. If you don't, then we can see that you must really not want the game all that badly then and we'll make a note of that."

Any curated system is gonna have things excluded that someone wants or likes. That's just the nature of a curated system. No matter how many complain, if they opened it up like Steam then other people would complain about THAT. No matter what people complain, so GOG should do what they want to do. They know what sells well here.

One very likely possible reason comes to mind: they had some incidents on GOG awhile back that caused a bit of PR stir(like a staffer who made some tweets that pissed off the usual types on social media). Since then they've cut back on the level of communication with the forums(well until now....a few new staff have recently tried to talk with users as of late) beyond things like official staff posts on game releases/sales/etc.

(plus the above mentioned staff shortages as well)

Yes. I agree that some games are in legal limbo and will never come to here, steam or anywhere else. There are and always will be abandonware sites for those games. It is a tragedy, it really is for some of these games. But my focus is not on AAA (guys, you will be waiting years for the Mass Effect Remastered Trilogy to come to these parts) or abandonware titles. I'm focusing on good indie games that reach marketing potential, not slapped together things with unity or RPG Maker assets.
Good God, is it that unstable?
Yes, but look who makes more money and has more subscribers? Steam. And you know what else they can do that Steam doesn't? Have an anime filter. Now, I love anime games. I am the biggest weeb, ngl. But that being said, a lot of people have complained about them on Steam and other areas. So maybe a platform that creates a filter for these or just adult content games in general, may get more attention. Gamers may enjoy having a page without that kind of material on it.

I do apologize folks, but I'm trying to respond to everyone here and that makes for a massive string of comments. It would be so much easier to have replies in separate posts, rather than added to a large string of comments. If someone here can update the forums from 2001 to 2021 that would be great.

I know the site used to be Good Old Games, but that doesn't mean we need to be Good Old Forums.

*looks at some of the 'gems' GOG has released over the last few years*

Thanks for the laugh, mate.

(jokes aside, they've made some good picks, but also some bad ones as well...ones that made me think "were they high when they figured this would sell well?")

You have no idea how many times I've said that. I'd definitely love to look at the sales figures, just to see if my assumption was correct when it came to a few of these titles. I've literally thought to myself, "who in the hell is going to buy that?"

You mean the "Legendary Edition"(now with extra censorship!)? If so, they can take all the time they want bringing that one here.

Sounds good, though tbh: i'd welcome almost any game they wanted to add here(short of asset flips and etc maybe)

I just wish they wouldn't turn down so much......especially games that'd likely sell well and make many gamers happy.

All I know is that since then, they've clamped down hard on staff talking to the user base a good deal.

(although as I said: a few new staffers have recently started to chat in the forums via forums posts....maybe the company is trying to salvage it's image a bit or the new staffers have more leeway on what they do...either way I like seeing it)

You mean GOG selling such games? On another new site, maybe...but on this one? Likely not gonna happen(due to things like how such games would make the look to the aforementioned social media types).

And then you have the company apologists/etc(not that user above, but others) saying stuff like "you aren't a business person, gog staffers are....they know what will sell so just let em do their jobs k?"

No, no. GOG does sell adult content. Most of it is light nudity or softcore, but a few games they sell do have full on adult content hidden behind patches. You simply buy the game on GOG, but the adult patch can be found usually on the developer's page and they do work.

I was referring to the ability to filter out that kind of content or the anime content (which can be lewd or inappropriate to some as you mention) which would probably bring more gamers here, because AFAIK, you can't do that with Steam.

I meant less tame stuff than what GOG sells...that stuff would and will likely never fly here.

(well unless it's in one of cdpr's games, that is)

Sounds like a good idea...that said: the forum was built by an independent contractor who was the lowest bidder, and that person has long since parted with the company.....as such the forums likely cannot be modified too much without being replaced entirely.

(Btw: I added a bit to my last post above, and also...if you want to not need to quote all that text, you can just delete all the text in a reply window and type your reply, and it'll still work & ping the one being replied to)

I've not been here for as long as the '08ers, but I can tell you this much: Good Old Games was built around two core principles, as far as I remember. 1. Preserving old games and working them to operate on modern operating systems. 2. DRM free.

Over the years, they had multiple polls on their policies, such as changing their core philosophies to start bringing in newer games, as well as independent games that shared the design philosophies and stylistics of older games, like the retro boom, etc. We voted to broaden their scope, because before, it was strictly limited to old games, with the CDP catalog being the lone exception to that rule for at least a few years. It was a very small split, because there was a pretty large and vocal group who absolutely hated the idea of not only dealing in classics. The argument was made that game age had nothing to do with game quality, which ended up being one of the prevailing viewpoints, and one I happened to share, as evidenced by what was in the catalogue at the time. Some of this was attributed to their deals back then, which required them to accept games like Master of Orion 3, if they wanted MoO 1 and 2, along with several other examples, most of which it's been so long that I don't remember.

So, the curation process has had to change multiple times over the years, as GOG has moved from serving one particular demographic of customer to a much larger one, beginning to compete in the same areas as Steam. I also feel like GOG's particular success in bringing more audience and attention on classic games such as Baldur's Gate and many others, which is what convinced other platforms that carrying old games was a viable market strategy, and begin to also serve that same demographic. Ultimately, their diversifying their catalogue added a much larger potential workload on whoever does curation, but also unfortunately has the added complexity of other, much larger, platforms to begin serving the same audience that old school GOG had a lock on.

I don't mind the extra games or dealing power, because it DID actually lead to GOG getting their hands on many classics that they didn't have the clout to bring prior, but it did come at a cost, both to what they brought outside of that scope, as well as curation issues. I'm sure life was simpler when they were only dealing in old games.

I don't judge them too harshly, as it is what it is. (If my memory is lacking in some type of way, I'm sure someone older will chime in and correct me, as needed.)