tinyE: "Who is Naven Johnson?

Elmofongo: Your reference went right over my head TinyE because who the fuck indeed is Naven Johnson and where did that quote came from?

Elmofongo: So please answer to me with absolute clarity as a laymen, why is Denuvo bad?

tremere110: The big one for me is that it requires the verification servers to be running in order to activate your install. If you install a game 10 years from now and those servers are down - you're going to have to find a crack and all the risks associated with that (malware, viruses, etc).

There is also a well documented marked difference in performance between Denovu RiME and without Denovo RiME. It's hard to tell if Denuvo if affecting performance in most cases because most cracks simply bypass Denovo rather than remove it - there's no baseline for comparison until Denuvo strips the DRM themselves (and it seems they prefer to bypass it instead of remove it too).

park_84: That could explain why there aren't many women around here.

paladin181: There was also a minor difference in DOOM between with Denuvo and without.

Darvond: It's a bit like a clogged drain in a shower. Bad enough that it only sprays cold water now, but now it all goes slowly.

PoppyAppletree: Yikes, better start buying Steam games again then. D:

LiefLayer: I tried to explain many times why denuvo is bad.... not this time.
I will just say: "Because I buy the game and I want to own it" (of course limited to the fact that you never really own a copyright protected material, just a license to use it. I don't want to rent that license, I want to buy it) and I don't want crap (virus, rootkit etc...) on my PC.

Elmofongo: Because honestly I feel I never get a straight answer with the negative reprecussions with Denuvo.

I mean the other worse forms of DRM are easy to understand why they are bad:

In the days of DOS gaming, they use a Copy Protection system by purposely making a game unbeatable or unplayable unless you have the codes or methods that is given to you with a purchased copy of hte game, in the case with Ultima 6 and 7, you had to answer a series of questions from characters, to answer those questions, you had to either have the list of answers given to you in the purchased game box, or you are lore savvy with the game's universe. The Copy Protection also varies depending on the game so not all of it was merely questions and answers.

Another bad one is SecuROM, where you had a set amount of limits to how many times can you uninstall and re-install a game, and when you run them out you had to check with SecuROM's website for them to give you more chances to install your games.

And of course there is worse one, Always Online DRM, no connection, no game, made clearly to how horrible it was with Assassin's Creed 2.

But I see nothing with Denuvo and why its bad, the only thing I got out of it was they say that it causes performance issues with your games? But I find that debateable because i played games with Denuvo, most notably Resident Evil 7 on Steam and in my experiance that game performance wise was flawless. 60+ FPS constantly, not lags or jittering, etc. Which makes me think its not Denuvo but playing these kinds of games with potatoe powered PCs for all I know.

So please answer to me with absolute clarity as a laymen, why is Denuvo bad?

johnnygoging: Denuvo's performance problems vary depending on how it has been integrated. Arkham Knight was a fucking shitfest on launch and Denuvo certainly wasn't helping. It's been shown to cause about a 5-8% drop in FPS on average, and there are various reports of massive intermittent stutters dropping FPS by half or more.