yogsloth: Why are UK Conservatives acting like Liberals?
If I'm a conservative voter in the UK, I want
more freedom, not less. That's what conservative
means.
I can't tell what means what anymore.
I can't really tell if you are being serious or sarcastic.
Either way, I never thought conservatism would mean "more freedom" (at least not necessarily), but just generally keeping the things the way they are (or were), promoting the values that are traditional to that area.
The only "freedom" thing I can mentally connect to conservatism is property rights... but then I am unsure if property rights are for or against freedom, maybe even both. Freedom to own property... but less freedom for other people, like if they need to get across the piece of land you happen to own.
E.g. in Finland we have this law called "jokamiehen oikeus" ("Everyman's right") which basically allows anyone to use other people's piece of land to go across, pick berries/mushrooms etc., as long as they don't disturb, go near settlements, throw trash to the nature, destroy trees etc.
Everyman's Right as a PDF document:
[url=http://www.ym.fi/fi-FI/Ajankohtaista/Julkaisut/Esitteet/Jokamiehenoikeudet_esite(4450]http://www.ym.fi/fi-FI/Ajankohtaista/Julkaisut/Esitteet/Jokamiehenoikeudet_esite(4450[/url])
So is that against, or for, freedom? Freedom of the land property owner to decide who crosses their lands, or freedom for people in Finland to move around and take advantage of the nature (within limits)?
I found it especially baffling that you seem consider "Liberals" as something against freedom? Sarcastic, yes no maybe who gives a flying f?