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That's a lie. A blunt, open and rediculous lie. Star Trek was always about exploration. About something new and about dealing with newly encountered phenomena, technology and cultures. And if there was any message about "social justice" it was that "social justice" doesn't exist. Because there is no single standart for justice, for equality and for power.

Orion slave girls sold by their husbands. But they are in charge, because they control owners with pheromones. Ferengy are greedy, swindeling bustards, who don't even concern themselves with any moral code. But with all that they never had most atrociuous wars under the premise of "social justice" or any other religious beliefs.

Yes, Roddenberry was pushing for equality and diversity. But he never tried to put a stigma on any race or culture, claiming that race having some sort of privilege or power.

No, it doen't. But SJ does have a lot to do with Seru saying that on his planet division between predators and prey is binary. And Klingon damaging satellite and waiting to provoke Fedaration, instead of going to war outright (Klingons don't need some stupid pretext for war, alt-right trolls do). And Burnham, when asked what lives she fears to be lost in the war, tells her captain that it's her life she is afraid for. Tell me that such thing doesn't imply that their relationship is something more that friendship?

That would be a shame, I've been looking forward to hearing your thoughts on future episodes. Episode 3 seems to have picked up a bit. Reforming a Starfleet officer is familiar Trek territory that's been done with Ro Laren from TNG and Tom Paris from Voyager. Though personally I think Ro Laren is a far more interesting character than Discovery's, and she also has more interesting characters to bounce off of like Guinan.

They needed a push because they don't consider the Federation a threat. Certainly not something to stand against united. That's perfectly Klingon, you go after worthy prey. ... you know love doesn't have to be ... physical ... right? I mean... is that what you're suggesting?

I'm not going to ask for the thread to be closed, but I've pretty much abandoned it. I'd love to keep discussing the show (I agree episode 3 was somewhat better, thought still not without it's share of stupidity), but the thread has become a toxic dumpster fire by this point, and no place for a civil, on-topic discussion between fans. In fact, between this and the Las Vegas shooting thread, ironically enough derailed and turned into a political toxic dump by the opposite team to the one that ruined this one (because everything now, whether it's just a tv show or a great tragedy, is just another battleground for that that tribalistic braindead war of zealots) I feel pretty sick of this forum as a whole.

And how lucky kill of one klingon will make Federation worthy? Not to mention that T'Kuvma could just attack any starship with the same result.

It's the threat of integration, the threat of peace, of losing what it means to be Klingon and mixing culture and races, backed up by the growing threat of the federation (one ship becomes a fleet).

I am suggestig that if one crew member is so close to other crew member, that the fear to lose her affects her command decisions - this two crew members shouldn't serve together. And it doesn't matter if their bond is physical or otherwise. In fact there was some TNG episode about that.
I'm not asking you to repeat qoutes from the show. I'm asking you, why such rethoric needed for a race, who gladly go to war just for making glorious victory and eat hearts of their enemies afterwards.

Also there is a contradiction - there were almost no contacts between Federation and Klingons for 100 years. How exactly Federation was going to mix it's culture into klingon's culture?

Of course that's true but if I had to enumerate every ST episode where an officer/crew member makes the "wrong decision" to save someone we'd be here all day. You just hardly notice them because usually stuff works out just fine. It's the failure, the flawed human that makes it memorable. Episodes that focus on the wrong choice ending up badly tend to be some of the most memorable ones (my memory fails me but mine's horrible... lol)
That was raised because that's what happens to all the other cultures they have met, and the threat is that they are next. Essentially, to the Klingons the "We come in peace" from the federation is pretty much what "You shall be assimilated" from the Borg was to the federation.

It's one thing to choose between close people and some global and/or abstract things. And the other is to base your entire behavior, based on connection with your superior officer.

And honestly, can you imagine McCoy telling Kirk: "Don't go on that dangerous mission, because I don't want to loose you."? Or Janeway telling that to Tuvok?
Again, how Burnham killing some klingon can be considered proof for that? Not to mention that klingon had their culture change on their own (there was a klingon dude in Undiscovered Country, who complained about it), so why would they fear human influence in the first place?

I'm glad I am not the only one to be feeling this way today. I started coming here because I got sick of the toxicity of places like 4Chan, but this forum has basically turned into it.

Burnham killing the klingon has nothing to do with it... That's not what starts the war. T'Kuvma is trying to convince the rest of the council that the federation is a threat. He doesn't do that by whining about a single killed klingon, he does it by highlighting the threat to the purity of the Klingon race, their individuality, and the threat to that, the Federation, hence why he says "Here it comes" when Captain Georgiou says that "Now and Always, We Come in Peace"

Than what was the point of T'Kuvma's ship sitting nearby? What was the point in one klingon strolling outside?
The question is how is that even remotely convincing?

Threat to the purity of klingon race?! The klingon genes are one of the strongest - the klingon look remains even in far decentants. The exception was augmentation virus and even it's effects eventually weared off. Klingon culture? As I already said it was in a state of flux long befor Federation appeared.

You compared human "We Come in peace" with borgish "You will be assimilated". Ok. How just someone saying "you will be assimilated" becomes a threat without demonstration that he is capable to assimilate you?

Our species is on the verge of extinction and all we can do is argue about pop culture. o.O