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GamezRanker: Is...is this supposed to be a joke or summin? o.0 ;)
Not really. The source material is from the 1980s, and obviously this is reflected in many aspects of the setting (Japanese corporations as the big baddies, Johnny Silverhand being a veteran of wars in Central America etc.). More generally, Cyberpunk's vision (from what I've read) doesn't really strike me as a believable idea of what the world might be like in 60 years. If I created a dystopia, it would be rather different (but probably wouldn't get published, since it would be rather more controversial than "muh mega corporations are really bad").
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whats wrong with fallout 76?
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Orkhepaj: whats wrong with fallout 76?
Everything under the sun and then some.
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Orkhepaj: whats wrong with fallout 76?
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patrikc: Everything under the sun and then some.
so nothing, just as i expected
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morolf: Not really. The source material is from the 1980s, and obviously this is reflected in many aspects of the setting (Japanese corporations as the big baddies, Johnny Silverhand being a veteran of wars in Central America etc.). More generally, Cyberpunk's vision (from what I've read) doesn't really strike me as a believable idea of what the world might be like in 60 years. If I created a dystopia, it would be rather different (but probably wouldn't get published, since it would be rather more controversial than "muh mega corporations are really bad").
The hilarious thing is, they had the creator himself working and coordinating at various points of the project. I wonder if at any point he thought, "I need to update my material", even though that probably would have caused the least subtle changes one could imagine.

Imagine if I was writing a game, and I picked a washed up 90s comedian. They'd have to write new material for sure.
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richlind33: It isn't Fallout 76.
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GamezRanker: "Me mum told me, if ya can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all"

Jokes aside....um.....it has Keanu Reeves in it?
Does he have a refund option? lol

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fronzelneekburm: It put Microsoft and Sony through some rather involuntary stress tests of their refund systems. ;)
Mack thinks preorders contributed to this botched abortion of a release, and I think he's right...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llmMN-nIjLA
Post edited April 19, 2021 by richlind33
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I don't appreciate the OP jab at Fallout 76, considering how that game was also unfairly hated just like Cyberpunk, but here goes...

It's a phenomenal first-person RPG with an incredibly intriguing world, above top-notch writing, a great soundtrack, fun RPG mechanics and great quests with a metric crapton of future potential.

It's one of my favorite games of all time and, given time with more patches, DLCs and expansions, it may enter my top 3. Right now, it's top 10 due to the bugs, performance issues and the fact that I feel like it still has a lot more potential to be fulfilled but it's still a ridiculously incredible game that has been unfairly crapped on by people who have set unrealistically high expectations and/or people who just can't be satisfied no matter how hard a dev tries. It lived up to virtually all of the hype I had for it and where it missed the mark was in rather unimportant ways... I mean, I was hoping for RDR2-styled interactions with the random NPCs, as well as Bethesda-esque sandbox freedom in the side activities, but hey: that wasn't what I was actually expecting in the first place.

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patrikc: Everything under the sun and then some.
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Orkhepaj: so nothing, just as i expected
You're correct, absolutely nothing. People hated on it on launch because it had a really buggy start and because it didn't have dialogue options (yep, I'm not kidding), despite the fact that it was basically everything else that Fallout fans had been asking for. Moreover, people were determined to crap on it before Bethesda even revealed any info on the game which just shows how absurd gamers can be nowadays... and Youtubers weren't any help there, with a certain few morons actively encouraging people to boycott it... simply because it wasn't Fallout 5.

I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea (though nowadays, there really aren't any more excuses for that if you enjoy the Fallout franchise) but it never once did anything to deserve the over-the-top vitriol it received. Funny thing is, the whiners stayed away and as a result, it has the friendliest online community I've ever experienced, bar none. While we were busy enjoying the game and its completely free updates, Youtubers and their hate mobs were drumming up drama about how "bad" the game is, how the cash shop is "unfair" (despite the fact that you can earn all of it through gameplay if you don't want to pay), how the completely optional subscription that gives some minor convenience buffs is "disgusting" and so forth. It's ridiculous. All BGS Austin has done since launch is relentlessly improve the game to the point where it literally encompasses everything that makes a Fallout game special, along with excellent online elements that can pretty much be ignored if you're not a fan of that... the literal only thing that's not available is modding and even that is still planned for the future.

But I digress, it's just prime proof that gamers can be some of the whiniest children these days. If a game isn't 100% what they wanted, in their own individual desires, it's complete crap to them which is just ridiculous. Anyways, I'm not gonna argue this with anyone because I don't want to derail this.. I just figured I'd weigh in, though. It's my favorite online game, after all.
Post edited April 19, 2021 by JakobFel
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I recently bought Cyberpunk 2077 , and have already played it. As a result of the plot, I want to say that it even exceeded my expectations. All this year, I sat with the thoughts that the Poles worked exclusively on the development of the open world and the character's capabilities, but they slightly hammered into the plot: it will do, the main thing is that the picture is cool. But no! The plot is full of colors, and to be honest, I even cried in a couple of moments. Yes, there are flaws in the game, and I hope that soon it will be possible to play without bugs. The game was definitely worth the time and left behind the most positive impressions.
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Breja: I found the whole trainwreck highly entertaining.
Its a sad state of affairs that this game ended up in a Matt McMuscles WHA HAPPUN video.
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Cyberpunk 2077 is a piece of art, at least when you watch it like a movie.
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JakobFel: it was basically everything else that Fallout fans had been asking for.
So... a lengthy, single player story driven game respectful to the established lore and themes with meaningful choices and interesing NPCs? Yeah, sure, that's exactly what 76 was. And I'm a Gorvil.
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But I honestly I knew this was gonna happen because seeing all the previews and gameplay of Cyberpunk 2077 back in the day, I kinda had my doubts because there is no way all this can be an actual playable game with all these features.

CD was promising the Moon with this.
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JakobFel: despite the fact that it was basically everything else that Fallout fans had been asking for.
I will take that as a joke.
I'm not hell bent on shitting on Bethesda or their products - although they're very poor attempts in my eyes (and I'm not the only one to hold that opinion). But from you enjoying a game to saying it was basically everything that Fallout fans had been asking for is a huge difference. Care to tell who are these so-called fans? Seriously now, people were disappointed because it was not Fallout 5? Bethesda proved their limited capabilities with Fallout 3, then they came up with Fallout 4 and more people called them on their bullshit. And then 76.
All the bad press Fallout 76 (and by extension Bethesda) received it was granted, its (their) own "merit" so-to-speak.
Anyway, this would be a never-ending debate.
This is not meant as an attack to you, the player, but rather to a company that perpetrated lies throughout all these years. Things need to change at some point and they will.

As a side note, CDPR were not criticised just for the sake of it, but rather for, more or less, the same tactics. People do not take kindly when being taken for a ride.
Any developer has to be straightforward to its intended target, that way people will have a better understanding and, I'm sure of it, will be more forgiving in the end in regard to any shortcomings. I'll give you an example: to this day the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. franchise is riddled with bugs, X-Ray engine and all, but many people hold it in high regard. Bugs/glitches are not that much of an impediment in appreciating a good game/franchise. While annoying at times, they also bring up nostalgia, good memories. It's the core essence of the game that people appreciate, in this particular case the world and its reactivity.
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Time4Tea: It hasn't committed any crimes against humanity (that I know of).
Haha, good one.

Right, regarding the OP... It's not monochromatic.
Post edited April 19, 2021 by patrikc
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I am glad Cyberpunk was not a point and click adventure game!!!
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Breja: I found the whole trainwreck highly entertaining.
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Elmofongo: Its a sad state of affairs that this game ended up in a Matt McMuscles WHA HAPPUN video.
It's a sad state of affairs that marketing was almost double what was spent on development.