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Posted April 07, 2019
I've heard that hypnosis is really helpful for helping people quit smoking, drinking, biting nails, etc.

I'm guessing you use drinking as a coping mechanism to deal with stress. I imagine you'd need to find another coping technique to be successful. What works best will depend on your personality.

Some other ideas:
1. get rid of all alcohol in the house. If it's not there, you can't drink it.
2. figure out how much money you spend on alcohol in a month / year. (to see what it's doing to your life AND wallet)
3. I've heard negative reinforcement can work. By doing something unpleasant or thinking about something you hate every time you drink, you begin to associate that thing with drinking. User DieRuhe (a few posts above) mentioned a medicine that makes you sick whenever you drink alcohol. It's called Naltrexone. It immediately kicks you into withdrawl. Taking that and getting sick every time you drink can often be enough to condition you to not want to drink any more. Your doctor can prescribe it.
4. A lot of the reason people like drinking (or so I've heard) is that it slows down the brain and quiets the obsessive thoughts. Supposedly practicing meditation, deep breathing, and similar techniques can also do the same thing.

I do suggest you avoid negative self-talk. Trying to change behavior when you hate yourself makes it much more difficult. You want to do this because you love yourself. Keep that thought and feeling in mind as you make changes.

Some people also have success with AA. I can't speak from experience.

Oh yes, coffee isn't any better than alcohol. When you drink coffee, the caffeine causes normal mechanisms in the body that tell you when you need to rest to shut off. Your body doesn't know why you can't relax and perceives the change as an attack and releases adrenaline because it thinks you're in danger and need the boost to escape it. That's what gives you energy when you drink coffee. It's literally your body switching into fight or flight mode.

Personally, I hate the smell of alcohol and coffee so much that I've never tried either.

I am not a doctor. The above "advice" is just information I've heard before. I've never had an addiction and can't say with any certainty that doing those things will help you or that they won't hurt you. Before you make any changes, consult with your doctor.
Post edited April 07, 2019 by hudfreegamer
Posted April 07, 2019
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LootSeeker: Switch to cannabis
yeah a bandaid solution

Look Crowitzer GET OFF THE PISS, Or enjoy the fucking Dialysis machine you'll be stuck on for the rest of your life.

If my parent got off the Durries - Cigarettes (whole carton a day, I don't mean one packet either I mean 4 pack of 50's or 10 packs of 20's) you can stop drinking just throw it away NOW!

If you feel like you're going to die without it, Tough shit battle through it.

Bit of a reality check and a bit of tough love go a long way!
Posted April 07, 2019
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DieRuhe: What about adverse conditioning? Isn't there some sort of medicine that makes you sick as a dog every time you ingest alcohol? Sounds a bit harsh but I could certainly see it altering behavior.
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Themken: Yes there is: Antabus. Using that one is really not an option unless you seriously want to quit drinking as some alcoholics have managed to drink anyway and get very sick due to the medicine.
Not to mention that, if it's in pill form, they can just skip taking it or make up an excuse for not taking it if someone else is overseeing the procedure.
Posted April 07, 2019
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tinyE: I'm a binge drinker who drinks not because of an addiction to a chemical but rather to cope with depression.
An alcoholic wants a drink 24/7, regardless of the circumstances. I only want to drink when I get depressed.
Aww... Boo hoo

You could have a life like mine and be in ACTUAL PHYSICAL PAIN all day and half the night with a shattered right shoulder socket and a grinding right hip due to a car accident which wasn't an accident at all.

The car accident if you could call it that caused amazing agony for 8 years, It comes and goes today, It gets sometimes so bad I feel like SLASHING MY THROAT and ending it all to get away from the pain or maybe jumping off a bridge or a cliff - I wish the world would explode all those nukies incinerating everything.

But I can't - I have responsibilities MASSIVE ones.

You imagine how YOU would feel tinyE you wouldn't be able to cope and would have offed yourself years ago

The pain is so bad I knock out sometimes from the pain.

Oh it's real fun when I'm out in public and my eyes SNAP SHUT while my legs keep going walking out in front of oncoming traffic - that was FUUUN

But boo hoo my depweshewn!

I'm beyond depression WAY beyond, The pain in my body can be so bad it can drive me literally insane!

you have a cushy life compared to others TinyE!

The pain in my body causes me to hallucinate how bad can you get it, I meant that's how bad I get it.

The burning and stinging today is only mild like getting chilli juice mixed with toothpaste and methylated spirits in a cut inside my whole right hip, So it's bearable.

Like how you use iodine on cuts to clean them that's actually too mild!
Post edited April 07, 2019 by fr33kSh0w2012
Posted April 07, 2019
First, some background. I've been drinking since I was 12. Many nights I drank enough to kill an elephant. I never stopped, yet it's been years since I was drunk. I can have just one drink, and don't even think about a second.

So I may know a thing or two about drinking. Or I'm just a freak. Probably the latter.

So, let's try something. Quitting anything only works temporarily. Source: the entirety of human history.

Do something else when you're drinking.

Play a game. Adventure games (except Discworld, it will only make it worse) work really nice, since they don't require reflexes, and keeping your brain busy actually stalls the drunken effect. It does not negate it, though. It will catch up to you.

Read a book. Anything but Harry Potter. Same deal as adventure games.

Watch a movie. A few episodes of something.

The important thing here is, shift your focus off the drink. It's there, you're ingesting it, but it's secondary. I've had one (generous) dose of whisky last me around 4 hours or so.

Now, contrary to what everyone says, do this alone. Drinking with buddies will actually have the adverse effect of focusing on the booze. And people telling you that you had enough when you really did have enough will only cause trouble, no matter how much you love or trust them when you're sober. Source: again, the entirety of human history.

I have no idea if this will work or not (always worked for me, though), but it can't hurt. You're going to be drinking anyway, might as well do something semi-productive while you're at it. And the risk of injury of passing out in an armchair is very, very low. Lower than crossing the street while your brain has been disconnected. Source: way too many late nights.

Remember: you're not drinking, you're doing something else. Anything else. There just happens to be a glass of something nearby. Don't think about the drink. Focus on that paragraph or puzzle. And don't worry about finishing the drink before going to bed. It's not important.
Posted April 07, 2019
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I don't want to fr33k people out but I see an eye in the corner of the room it's staring at me and it's looking around then flicking back to look at me

oh look this guy has seen it too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEVfREVGcaY
Post edited April 07, 2019 by fr33kSh0w2012
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Crowitzer: And I love coffee. Any advises how to beat this alcoholism thing?
Don't dismiss psychiatric help. Are you not getting through the day without drinking or are you drinking *to* get through the day?

Depending how bad it gets there might be medical services/psychiatric aid to help you kick the habit, possibly with prescribing Diazepam to diminish withdrawal symptoms and possibly something like prolongued use of Disulfiram to prevent you drinking again (you'll basically go into hangover mode almost immediately after taking in any alcohol)

I just spent 6 weeks helping a parent get off the alcohol and onto anti-depression medication after a near suicide attempt. Let me tell you, chronic alcohol abuse is not worth it. If you need help, get it. It's out there. You just need to be willing to accept it. Alcohol doesn't make your day better. It just surpresses whatever is really the issue and makes you a little worse off every day
Post edited April 07, 2019 by Pheace
Posted April 07, 2019
I'm an alcoholic. People who can drink several drinks in quick succession that get a release similar to heroin are susceptable to alcoholism.

A good way to counter your need for is to eat regular meals with carbohydrates and protein. Both release a satisfaction that sedates and relaxes you. Protein is essential to getting dopamine, dopamine is part of what you get from alcohol so we so important it is to stop. If you buy bulk L-Taurine powder, that will convert to dopamine when you take it and you have less of a need for alcohol because of the dopamine release. Supplements like Gaba are also useful to help you sleep and to release brain chemicals that help with depression and mood.

Exercise and achievement in general helps release dopamine. So if you can exercise that may help.
Posted April 07, 2019
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Huh how did I get derepped 2 points for my post about how my body feels (on a good day)

How is tinyE doing that?
Posted April 07, 2019
It's simple.
Post edited April 07, 2019 by tinyE
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fr33kSh0w2012: Huh how did I get derepped 2 points for my post about how my body feels (on a good day)

How is tinyE doing that?
Why do you care about rep at all?
Posted April 07, 2019
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fr33kSh0w2012: Huh how did I get derepped 2 points for my post about how my body feels (on a good day)

How is tinyE doing that?
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DadJoke007: Why do you care about rep at all?
It's just annoying seeing it go down, I wanna help people but lately I'm not helping people because people have been shitting on me here and everywhere and my parent hasn't been helping with the constant questions either always peeking over my shoulder and my sisters bitching and whining does NOT help my sanity I'm the only male in this household since my father is a arsehole.
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tinyE: It's simple.
TinyE that's not funny... You're running scripts I bet or you have a little army of "friends" doing it.

oh FFS... Hang on I have a sharp stabbing pain in my lung no wait it's the rib cage feels like a toothache in my entire rib cage.
Post edited April 07, 2019 by fr33kSh0w2012
Posted April 07, 2019
I have an idea. Make a rule for yourself. You're allowed to have a drink whenever you want and as often as you want, but only if you send a dick pic to your mother first. Either you'll never touch a drop of booze again, or alcoholism will be the least of your worries.
Posted April 07, 2019
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hudfreegamer: I've heard that hypnosis is really helpful for helping people quit smoking, drinking, biting nails, etc.

I'm guessing you use drinking as a coping mechanism to deal with stress. I imagine you'd need to find another coping technique to be successful. What works best will depend on your personality.

Some other ideas:
1. get rid of all alcohol in the house. If it's not there, you can't drink it.
2. figure out how much money you spend on alcohol in a month / year. (to see what it's doing to your life AND wallet)
3. I've heard negative reinforcement can work. By doing something unpleasant or thinking about something you hate every time you drink, you begin to associate that thing with drinking. User DieRuhe (a few posts above) mentioned a medicine that makes you sick whenever you drink alcohol. It's called Naltrexone. It immediately kicks you into withdrawl. Taking that and getting sick every time you drink can often be enough to condition you to not want to drink any more. Your doctor can prescribe it.
4. A lot of the reason people like drinking (or so I've heard) is that it slows down the brain and quiets the obsessive thoughts. Supposedly practicing meditation, deep breathing, and similar techniques can also do the same thing.

I do suggest you avoid negative self-talk. Trying to change behavior when you hate yourself makes it much more difficult. You want to do this because you love yourself. Keep that thought and feeling in mind as you make changes.

Some people also have success with AA. I can't speak from experience.

Oh yes, coffee isn't any better than alcohol. When you drink coffee, the caffeine causes normal mechanisms in the body that tell you when you need to rest to shut off. Your body doesn't know why you can't relax and perceives the change as an attack and releases adrenaline because it thinks you're in danger and need the boost to escape it. That's what gives you energy when you drink coffee. It's literally your body switching into fight or flight mode.

Personally, I hate the smell of alcohol and coffee so much that I've never tried either.

I am not a doctor. The above "advice" is just information I've heard before. I've never had an addiction and can't say with any certainty that doing those things will help you or that they won't hurt you. Before you make any changes, consult with your doctor.
Have you ever tried kratom?
Posted April 07, 2019
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Hello everyone on this wonderful weekend1

@fr33kSh0w2012 what you're doing looks an aweful lot like you're trying to dox tinyE. I ask you to stop that, and I have removed your posts.

Now everyone have a great weekend!
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