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Posted November 24, 2018
Components already acquired:

CPU:

Intel Core i9-9900K Desktop Processor 8 Cores up to 5.0 GHz Turbo Unlocked LGA1151 300 Series 95W
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i9-9900K-Desktop-Processor-Unlocked/dp/B005404P9I/

Motherboard:

MSI MEG Z390 GODLIKE LGA1151 M.2 USB 3.1 Gen 2 DDR4 Wi-Fi SLI CFX Extended ATX Z390 Gaming Motherboard
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MEG-Z390-GODLIKE-Motherboard/dp/B07HMGVR8D/

GPU:

PNY GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB XLR8 Gaming Overclocked Edition Graphics Card
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-Gaming-Overclocked-Graphics/dp/B07GJ7TV8L/

Memory:

Corsair Vengeance RGB 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3733MHz C17 Desktop Memory - Black
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077J2GCN6/

Storage:

Samsung 970 EVO 2TB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E2T0BW)
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-2TB-MZ-V7E2T0BW/dp/B07C8Y31G1/

WD Red Pro 10TB NAS Hard Drive - 7200 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, 256 MB Cache, 3.5" - WD101KFBX
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Pro-10TB-Hard-Drive/dp/B072F422FW/

What would you recommend to complete the package?
Post edited November 24, 2018 by Star_Ocean
Posted November 24, 2018
Fractal Design Define R6 with the USB-C
Seasonic Platinum psu
A good Noctua cooler for the cpu

I suppose you will get liquid cooling?
Post edited November 24, 2018 by greeklover
Posted November 24, 2018
I recommend you get something to put all that stuff in. Like a cardboard box or a bucket. It makes for easier storage when you have a place to keep your things.
Posted November 24, 2018
That's funny. I realize I need things like a case, power supply, liquid cooling, monitor, etc. but there are so many different options and I don't know enough about them or how they'll mesh with what I already have. I'm looking for specific recommendations.
Post edited November 24, 2018 by Star_Ocean
Posted November 24, 2018
Ok a more specific option for psu since you have a high budget is the Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum 850
Posted November 24, 2018
I'm assuming the 850 in your recommendation stands for watts. Is that enough power for everything I have? What are the downsides to getting a bigger power supply than I need?
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greeklover: I suppose you will get liquid cooling?
What would you recommend?
Post edited November 24, 2018 by Star_Ocean
Posted November 24, 2018
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Star_Ocean: That's funny. I realize I need things like a case, power supply, liquid cooling, monitor, etc. but there are so many different options and I don't know enough about them or how they'll mesh with what I already have. I'm looking for specific recommendations.
If you are going with air cooling, then use Noctua coolers. I recommend you use the Noctua NH-D14 CPU: https://noctua.at/en/nh-d14
I also recommend the Cooler Master CM Force 500: http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid-tower/cm-force-500/
Edit: I think you should buy a PSU from EVGA. I use the 650W version of their SuperNOVA PSU and I definitely recommend it: https://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=220-G2-0850-XR
Post edited November 24, 2018 by Not_you
Posted November 24, 2018
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Star_Ocean: I'm assuming the 850 in your recommendation stands for watts. Is that enough power for everything I have? What are the downsides to getting a bigger power supply than I need?
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greeklover: I suppose you will get liquid cooling?
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Star_Ocean: What would you recommend?
Yes the 850 is for watts. Don't go for 650w because the cpu+gpu draw around 600w so you need some more to be sure, 850w is more than enough for your overclocking.

About the water cooling I have no idea, never used one
Posted November 24, 2018
EDITED FOR JERKNESS
I am sorry for being a jerk. I should not have been mean to you. I should not have assumed that you were trolling. I should have given you information and helped you with your build.

I am sorry. Please forgive me.
Post edited November 26, 2018 by misteryo
Posted November 24, 2018
OP if you don't get a good enough PSU (nevermind the wattage - you need to look at it's quality) your expensive swanky graphics card might blow up and if you don't get a big enough case it won't fit your card and so on.
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Star_Ocean: That's funny. I realize I need things like a case, power supply, liquid cooling, monitor, etc. but there are so many different options and I don't know enough about them or how they'll mesh with what I already have. I'm looking for specific recommendations.
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misteryo: As long as you're getting the most expensive shit available, why not walk into your local Best Buy and just throw a wad of cash at the help desk and tell them to give you the best gaming rig they have?

If you don't know enough to pick a case, you shouldn't be building your own rig. If you don't know enough to pick a power supply, you shouldn't be spending thousands of dollars on expensive tech that you don't know how to put together.

We're all very impressed with your spending power. Now go away.
Harsh. I built my first system this year and cocked up allot of things and didn't know about . I researched as I went and still should of a higher wattage PSU and a bigger case and a bigger motherboard for futureproofing. But it all works now, which is the main thing.

Although I had to buy a graphics card after I couldn't get the GPU on my 2200G to work
Posted November 24, 2018
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misteryo: As long as you're getting the most expensive shit available, why not walk into your local Best Buy and just throw a wad of cash at the help desk and tell them to give you the best gaming rig they have?
Pre-made computers have a significant markup. Besides, stores like Best Buy don't have the latest and greatest components even in their most expensive builds.
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misteryo: If you don't know enough to pick a case, you shouldn't be building your own rig. If you don't know enough to pick a power supply, you shouldn't be spending thousands of dollars on expensive tech that you don't know how to put together.
It's my understanding that putting together a rig nowadays is largely a plug-and-play affair. I just need a bit of advice on how to finish it out.
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misteryo: We're all very impressed with your spending power. Now go away.
There's no need to be that way. Up to now I've been using an off-the-shelf PC I got back in 2009. An upgrade has been long in the making and I've been saving up for years.
Post edited November 24, 2018 by Star_Ocean
Posted November 24, 2018
EDITED FOR JERKNESS
I am sorry for being a jerk. I should not have been mean to you. I should not have assumed that you were trolling. I should have given you information and helped you with your build.

I am sorry. Please forgive me.
Post edited November 26, 2018 by misteryo
Posted November 24, 2018
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Star_Ocean: Pre-made computers have a significant markup. Besides, stores like Best Buy don't have the latest and greatest components even in their most expensive builds.

It's my understanding that putting together a rig nowadays is largely a plug-and-play affair. I just need a bit of advice on how to finish it out.

There's no need to be that way. Up to now I've been using an off-the-shelf PC I got back in 2009. An upgrade has been long in the making and I've been saving up for years.
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misteryo: In that case, here's my actual advice:

You are wasting money with that build.

If you aren't doing some heavy duty video editing and compiling, then you are wasting money left and right.

I can live with the choice of CPU and GPU for "future proofing." But I would downgrade both of them. If you aren't gaming in 4K, then you don't need the 2080.

There is no way in hell you need to spend over $500 on a motherboard. What are you getting for your money? You can get a good mobo that supports overclocking, USB 3.1, more SATA 6GB ports than you can fill, and has fast architecture to not bottleneck your componenets for $90-$140. More is just showing off.

64 GB RAM my ass. Get 16. Upgrade later as needed. IF needed.

Use some common sense and get 2 of these for half the price of the 2TB model you chose.

And why would you trust your storage to one honking 10TB HDD? You are asking for a catastrophic hardware failure. If you really actually have 10 TB worth of stuff that is worth spending money to preserve, then get a RAID setup and some external backup drives.

I came across as harsh, because you are posting in a gaming forum instead of a hardware forum. You are wasting money. You are showing off. you have not done your homework. Consequently your post comes off as, "I am rich and am going to put together a rig all of you can only salivate over." Except it's a dumb rig.

So, my advice is - go back to the drawing board. Go to a hardware forum - maybe Tom's Hardware - and begin by outlining your usage and anticipated needs. Then tell them you really are interested in future proofing as much as possible. When they ask about budget, tell them you've been saving up and have a very flexible budget but that you are interested in getting bang for your buck.
Yeah I agree. An i9-9900k and a RTX 2080 Ti is waste of money. If he wants a PC he should buy a RTX 2080 and a ryzen 2700x instead. That is much better value.
Posted November 24, 2018
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Not_you: Yeah I agree. An i9-9900k and a RTX 2080 Ti is waste of money. If he wants a PC he should buy a RTX 2080 and a ryzen 2700x instead. That is much better value.
I concur, every benchmark I've seen shows that the 9900k won't really have an impact on performance for gaming over a 7700k. Most of the build as outlined is a complete waste of money for what you can realistically expect to need for gaming. It's overkill, and futureproofing your rig isn't really a good excuse for it. Not when the price difference will cover another future rig.
Posted November 24, 2018
Going with an AMD CPU would save you a ton of dough, and allow you to easily upgrade to future AM4-socket CPUs. AM4+ Sockets are probably going to start popping up around 2021, but AM4 should stay relevant enough for a couple years longer. It is pretty likely that Intel is going to lose the performance crown to AMD when Zen 2 releases, so choosing AMD should give you greater power, along with the saved money. Intel really likes to introduce new sockets to go with their latest CPUs, which means that you have to replace the motherboard to upgrade to the latest hotness. Basically, AMD is great if you want to upgrade every three or four years without redoing everything.

GPU-wise, Nvidia is the current performance king. Unlike CPUs, a GPU isn't tied down to a specific socket standard, so you can switch GPUs whenever something decent comes along. AMD is investing into improving their GPUs right now, but no telling if that would yield good fruit in the coming years. AMD traditionally offers the "Cheap but good enough" option, while Intel and Nvidia tend to charge outrageous premiums for a modest performance increase.

Concerning motherboards, get one with a LCD display. Having the error lights is very helpful for figuring out what went wrong, and handling it appropriately.

When it comes to memory, you don't just want the biggest capacity - the timings of your memory dictates how quickly memory gets shuffled around. A lower set of timings is better. Modifying the memory of a computer is the easiest component to deal with, so you can afford to start with a modest amount and upgrade when you feel like. 16gb is the minimum that I recommend nowadays. Just be sure to get your memory as a set within the same package, because differing memory sticks have a harder time playing nice with each other.

When it comes to computer chassis, I prefer big towers. The CoolerMaster Storm Stryker has served me well thus far. Keep in mind that you must ensure that a motherboard can properly fit into your chassis of choice. I like having a window, so that I can check on the motherboard LCD display without having to disassemble the case.

Storm Stryker SE

Once you got your system assembled, be sure to use various software to stress test and diagnose it. Odds are that at least one component will fail in some manner, and you will want to replace the failed bits before returns are no longer allowed. Memtest, CrystalDiskInfo, CPU-Z, and GPU-Z are decent additions to the toolkit.

EDIT: I have heard that SeaSonic is one of the best brands for PSUs. Be sure to get a nice UPS to go with your computer. Power surges are no joke.
Post edited November 24, 2018 by Sabin_Stargem
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