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Posted December 13, 2017
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fishbaits: More for your AMD gfx cards if you have them, but wow! AMD have pulled out all the stops with this update!

https://youtu.be/1FaghGZSVME
Damn it! I just upgraded my drivers TWO days ago. I hate upgrading my software, because I know that each time, leftovers clutter my system.

Thank you for linking to this new video from AdoredTV. The guy really knows his stuff and I like his work. Who knows how long it would have taken me before I would have discovered his clip. +1
Post edited December 13, 2017 by MadalinStroe
Posted December 13, 2017
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MadalinStroe: Damn it! I just upgraded my drivers TWO days ago. I hate upgrading my software, because I know that each time, leftovers clutter my system.

Thank you for linking to this new video from AdoredTV. The guy really knows his stuff and I like his work. Who knows how long it would have taken me before I would have discovered his clip. +1
So did I lol. Worse, I'll be finally building my Ryzen system this weekend or early next week & will have to install new on that build hehe.

You're welcome. Jim (AdoredTV) is good. He does tend to lean towards AMD fanboyism, but can't blame him with all of the crap that Intel/Nvidia have done over the years ;)
Post edited December 13, 2017 by fishbaits
Posted December 25, 2017
does anyone know if the ryzen 5 1400 is affected too by the ccx segment fault bug?

i did only find complins about ryzen 7.
Posted December 27, 2017
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Posted December 27, 2017
Not heard of it in anything other than the 1700's, but even then, it's only affecting Linux compiling isn't it & a rare event at that.

Tried looking about & couldn't find much about it.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Segv-Response

"With the Ryzen segmentation faults on Linux they are found to occur with many, parallel compilation workloads in particular -- certainly not the workloads most Linux users will be firing off on a frequent basis unless intentionally running scripts like ryzen-test/kill-ryzen. As I've previously written, my Ryzen Linux boxes have been working out great except in cases of intentional torture testing with these heavy parallel compilation tasks. Even when carrying out other heavy, non-compilation (GCC or Clang) parallel workloads in recent days, from server tasks to scientific processing, my Ryzen test boxes have been stable. I'm still using Ryzen 5 on my main desktop system without any faults in day-to-day use on Fedora 26 Linux. "

That was done on a Ryzen 5 series chipset, so you should be okay. Perhaps someone else here knows more.
Posted December 27, 2017
Might be moving back to Intel if they can bring the 8core 16 thread consumer grade cpu with the new lineup soon. I been hating how my ram and overclocks are not stable with ryzen and a lot of programs and games DO NOT like the cpu for performance compared to my old 6700k.

If anyone want's to buy mine I will drop you a deal when the new cpu's come out for intel.
it's an 1800x and a gigabyte k7 board.
Post edited December 27, 2017 by DreamedArtist
Posted December 27, 2017
From what I've read, ram on Ryzen can be a bit picky. I grabbed some Nighthawk 3200mhz & got lucky, it works with no problems.

Which reminds me, I finally got my build completed the other weekend & am really impressed.
Cinebenchr15 test on my i7-860 (ancient, I know ;p) was lucky if it hit 135 whereas this build I'm getting regularly ~1680.

Build is:
Asus RUG Strix B350-F.
Ryzen 1700X @3.8 (not overclocked, yet...)
Nighthawk 3200mhz 16gb memory.
Antec P8 case.
ID-Cooling Auraflow RGB Watercooling Unit - 240mm AIO.
620 Bronze+ PSU.
XFX Radeon RX 480 GTR XXX Edition 8192MB GDDR5.
SSD & two HDD's, external dvd.

Terragen benchmark dropped from ~13minutes on old pc, to ~4minutes on this one. Lightwave renders speeded up a lot too. GIMP seems more responsive.
Had no problems with games, but not tested that many tbh.
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DreamedArtist: Might be moving back to Intel if they can bring the 8core 16 thread consumer grade cpu with the new lineup soon. I been hating how my ram and overclocks are not stable with ryzen and a lot of programs and games DO NOT like the cpu for performance compared to my old 6700k.

If anyone want's to buy mine I will drop you a deal when the new cpu's come out for intel.
it's an 1800x and a gigabyte k7 board.
Keep eye out in Q1 of next year. Ryzen2 series releases. Or Ryzen+, it's one or the other ;)
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Post edited December 27, 2017 by fishbaits
Posted December 27, 2017
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fishbaits: Not heard of it in anything other than the 1700's, but even then, it's only affecting Linux compiling isn't it & a rare event at that.

Tried looking about & couldn't find much about it.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Segv-Response

"With the Ryzen segmentation faults on Linux they are found to occur with many, parallel compilation workloads in particular -- certainly not the workloads most Linux users will be firing off on a frequent basis unless intentionally running scripts like ryzen-test/kill-ryzen. As I've previously written, my Ryzen Linux boxes have been working out great except in cases of intentional torture testing with these heavy parallel compilation tasks. Even when carrying out other heavy, non-compilation (GCC or Clang) parallel workloads in recent days, from server tasks to scientific processing, my Ryzen test boxes have been stable. I'm still using Ryzen 5 on my main desktop system without any faults in day-to-day use on Fedora 26 Linux. "

That was done on a Ryzen 5 series chipset, so you should be okay. Perhaps someone else here knows more.
thanks
Posted January 10, 2018
Seems Ryzen will be getting bit cheaper soon, some places are already lowering prices.
Not surprising, as Ryzen+ is said to be due out April 2018.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-second-gen-ryzen-news/?sf178761019=1

It'll be 12nm, current Ryzen is 14nm. Said to be faster & last longer.

Slight hints about new nm Vega cards too.
Posted January 19, 2018
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_run.php?q=c2ffcee889e8d5e2d3ead9e0d1f785b888aecbae93a385f6cbf3&l=en

Ryzen 5 2600, 6C/12T, 3.4GHz
Posted January 29, 2018
Good news for Linux users. Kernel 4.15 has been officially released yesterday and with it brings CPU temperature monitoring support. Tested it this morning on my Ryzen 1700X, temperature readings are working as expected.

On the bad side, CPU Fan speed readings still show 0RPM.
Post edited January 29, 2018 by Ganni1987
Posted January 30, 2018
My new Ryzen 1600 is doing well so far. I think more games use multiple cores than people realize. I ran into that issue last time when people advised me to focus on the ghz and then I discovered a ton of games like Assassin's Creed and Borderlands for example ran poorly with certain settings on, due to the CPU. In other words I think people are just used to saying speed is the only thing that matters, but things have changed and some games want those cores and threading.
Posted January 31, 2018
Looks like Ryzen 3 2200G and Ryzen 5 2400G will be perfect options for gamers on a budget.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-raven-ridge-first-benchmarks-for-ryzen-3-2200g-and-ryzen-5-2400g.html
Posted February 01, 2018
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StingingVelvet: In other words I think people are just used to saying speed is the only thing that matters, but things have changed and some games want those cores and threading.
To be honest, it is true that a sufficiently fast single-core CPU may work as well as a multi-core CPU in any task. In theory. But for some tasks you can't beat a fast CPU by simply adding extra-cores.
So, a faster CPU is simply a safer bet. (Of course, more GHz != faster CPU).
Post edited February 01, 2018 by Gede
Posted February 02, 2018
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Gede: To be honest, it is true that a sufficiently fast single-core CPU may work as well as a multi-core CPU in any task. In theory. But for some tasks you can't beat a fast CPU by simply adding extra-cores.
So, a faster CPU is simply a safer bet. (Of course, more GHz != faster CPU).
I guess my point is more that if games are designed around mult-core threading consoles then they will sometimes benefit from that on PC more than a higher Ghz number. I often see people lamenting the performance of a game on a forum and they give their specs they have some 8 year old CPU, but they think it's fine because it's overclocked to 4.4Ghz or whatever.
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