Nowadays everyone likes to place DRM free stamp on everything. This:

Can I download the game on my office PC and install it on my home PC which does not have an internet connection?

No, you cannot. Internet connection is required to install games. If the target computer has slow download bandwidth, then the game can be downloaded on another computer and then transferred in any way to your original computer. There you can use them to install, but connection is needed to sign in and start the installation process.

speaks very clearly to me.

GamersGate's idea of "DRM-free" seems to be: "you need to authenticate it online only when you install the game". Even though it is a light form of online DRM, it is still that. So it is basically having a permanent offline mode _after_ you have installed (and authenticated) the game on that computer.

However, people have found out a workaround, ie. copy the temporary files to somewhere else right after you have downloaded the game files, before closing the downloader. Then you have a DRM-free installer in your hands. Otherwise you don't.

I guess that is the motivation of most of the people posting here in the forums. They actually genuinely care about GOG and really feel bad if GOG seems to make steps in the wrong direction. In this light the sometimes harsh criticism seems understandable.

And if you can get a game somewhere else, there is really no need to wait for GOG very long. Some months maybe, but certainly not years. It's not worth it. I also have games on GamersGate and Steam (on Steam only those I did not get somewhere else but still). It's bad for GOG because they loose sales but in the end it's their problem. Either they are good enough or they will shut down.
Maybe GOG gets shunned by the rights holders of these semi-new AAA titles because unlike for even older games because they really like DRM for these games and do not want to do without. Just an alternative explanation to "GOG doesn't try hard enough".

I'm in total agreement with you there.

It's pretty much what my friends told me when I encouraged them to buy games here: "It only has old pickers!".

More recently, after GOG started adding more of those somewhat recent AAA games, one of my buddies who made the above criticism told me that GOG now had some decent games and was worth keeping tabs on.

Titles like NWN2 got their attention.

I agree with your assessment. I didn't claim it is because GOG doesn't try hard enough, I just said GOG needs more such games here. I presume they'd love to have more such games in the catalog, and I would too, but for the most part it may be quite hard to convince the publishers to release them DRM-free.

But still, sometimes we get that (like yesterday's release?). So hopefully they don't stop trying also on that front, but I can understand it is not necessarily an easy task.

I always impressed how people feel entitled to demand new products. I simply want even MOAR GAMZ!!! ZOMG!, for my incredible long backlog. I wonder what the reason behind that thinking is. I know I have some pretty crass demands from Steam and other resellers / publishers but asking for specific games is not one of them.

I'm not going to ask GOG for MOAR GAMZ ZOMG! every day, just like some game-addict junkie waiting for a new fix, but maybe I should change that!



HEY GOG! give me MOAR GAMZ!!! ZOMG! NOW!

It was mentioned so often in this thread. More games mean more sales for GOG and more happy customers. More is good for everybody, not only for me or you but also for GOG or Steam.

But you're right, one must be addicted to want to play more and more games all the time. :)))

Oh, another fine example. Why GOG released Cossacks and American Conquest but not Cossacks 2 is beyond me and possibly beyond any logic at all.

I was tired of waiting and bought Cossacks 1 + 2 + American Conquest for 5 EUR on steam. The same with Kohan games.

With Steam, for me there is always the extra hurdle of figuring out how many, and what, DRM-layers there are for each game. If we are lucky, none. Still, I take e.g. GOG's or DotEmu's releases as a seal of quality, I already know pretty much without checking what to expect. No surprise installation caps, no 3rd party account creations, no dying GFWL, no always-online etc.

The only thing to check for GOG games if there are any restrictions for multiplayer, but fortunately I don't care about that part. I already know that especially with the old games, getting the multiplayer working can be sometimes quite tricky, or even impossible. And there probably wouldn't be many people playing them anyway anymore, by the time I decide to play the game.

Some even demand OLD products! :)

I think that for GOG sales per title are more important than sales overall. And more titles = less sales per title.

They might really need good sales per title ratio for negotiations, so publishers/developers would want to come here. If they would release games as often as Steam then new titles would be buried and forgotten in no time (lower sales). It's ok for Steam, because it has enormous customer base and game will sell well anyway, but for GOG it could mean "Sorry, our last game sold like a crap in your store, we don't want to be bothered by you anymore".

Yes, the rather perplexingly named LM002. However, unlike the Cayenne, the LM002 was originally designed a military vehicle rather than a cash cow. The military LM002 never emerged, so Lambo just put the civilian version on sale for people with much money but little taste. Just to make it that little bit more vulgar, they also made a model with a powerboat V12 squeezed into the engine bay.

I'm still waiting for Carmageddon 2 and Carmageddon TDR2000 ...

Stainless Games confirmed that they have all rights to those now during the Carmageddon: ReinCARnation kickstarter...

I can only assume they plan to hold them back to near the C:R release to drum up some PR for the new game but I really wish they'd come out soon...

I'd buy them in a second if they did ...

I would imagine that the situation is down to this:

With new games, publishers are coming to GOG and putting pressure on GOG to release those games the same time they're released elsewhere. Not just add them to the release queue.

With old games, GOG are going to publishers and trying to prise these titles from their grasp. Then they've got to put in the work to get these games to function properly. Which is especially difficult with Win9x releases (hence no Carma 2). Then they can just add these games to the release queue as and when. None of them have expected release dates.

So when GOG has a lot of new stuff to release, you're going to wind up with situations like this.

GOG is getting more and more popular. So there's going to be more of this as time goes on. New games will be the most common releases here and the well of old games that GOG can draw from and get working will dry up. I think they foresaw that when they dropped 'Good Old Games' from the name.

After System Shock 2 and until the summer (with Wizardry 6-8), I thought GOG's popularity meant that they would have more "sway" with the publishers and thus be able to negotiate more classics to appear here. Apparently, in a recent interview, TET said that the problem isn't DRM-free anymore but licensing issues and "Well, we don't have somebody who works with our old games, so we don't know who can help you."

It seems like there are lots of classics that can be released from publishers already here. If GOG really is having trouble bringing good old games, I'd prefer they just release all they can, and just bring the new stuff from then on, rather than draw out the process. It would be painful for some of us, but it would force us to just accept that no more classics would appear. (Sort of like taking a bandage off quickly instead of slowly)

it does mystify me why there are good old classic games available DRM free on certain sites yet GOG is unable or can't sell the same games here? wonder what gives?. some kinds of restrictive agreements?. new games are ok but they are pretty much all indie but let's be honest...many just don't give u the same experience as AA AAA or older AAA titles.having said that, they can only get those which are willing to go DRM free.