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To me, there is no such thing as "strong" or "weak" atheist. We obviously don't have the same definition of "atheist" which is fine with me.
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Cambrey: To me, there is no such thing as "strong" or "weak" atheist. We obviously don't have the same definition of "atheist" which is fine with me.

Then you should look it up. It's a practice that removes a whole hell of a lot of false definitions.
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Navagon: Then you should look it up. It's a practice that removes a whole hell of a lot of false definitions.

So ?
I don't worship wikipedia.
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Cambrey: I don't worship wikipedia.

I'm not suggesting you do. That would be a strange religion, even compared to Scientology. But if you're going to debate something with someone it's nonetheless wise to do so with more than hearsay and assumption on your side.
Reminds me of...
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ceemdee: Well, technically the Pastafarian pirates would also be > ninja, but I'm too greedy with my candy to be that type.

Good to hear. Sweeties should not be squandered so lightly.
Isn't it ironic that atheism takes all the attention here? :)
I call for a schism and pronounce myself the Pope of the Reformed Branch of Mild-Medium Atheism.
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Arteveld: Reminds me of...

Ah, finally. Maybe putting it in picture form will help explain it to people. :D
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Navagon: But if you're going to debate something with someone it's nonetheless wise to do so with more than hearsay and assumption on your side.

I gave you my opinion, perhaps my own definitions. I debate with my own ideas, my own convictions. I don't need to point out the first definition I find online to convince people. And I don't want to convince anybody anyway.
Whether you like it or not, whether you agree with me or not, doesn't bother me.
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carlosjuero: Children of the Atom

Given birth to any new universes lately? :P ;)
As for my answer: None (atheism is not a religion)
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Cambrey: Whether you like it or not, whether you agree with me or not, doesn't bother me.

If you want to make up your own definitions for established words and don't care what others think, then that's fine with me. I'm not going to stop you. But you probably want to remember that you've done this, and therefore correcting people who're using the established definitions isn't going to work out so well.
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Navagon: Ah, finally. Maybe putting it in picture form will help explain it to people. :D

BUT, i have to state, i do not believe in weak/strong atheism, if one believes there is no god, the only meaning "weak/strong" makes, is that one states a belief, and the other states a fact. Therefore strong atheism is not a belief, but sheer stupidity, and that does not close on atheism of course. If one states that something surely exists, without any proof, he or she, is a fool.
Three options, either one believes in a god/gods, or he believes that there is no god/are no gods, or he doesn't care. Though the latter would state no religion. ;)
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Petrell: As for my answer: None (atheism is not a religion)

Oh, actually, You are right. A relligion is an organised thing and all.
The topic of this thread is biased!
Post edited February 09, 2010 by Arteveld
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Arteveld: Reminds me of...
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Navagon: Ah, finally. Maybe putting it in picture form will help explain it to people. :D

While those definitions ARE (probably) true, the argument that follows isn't.
The picture argues that not being sure if you know or not makes you an atheist. The counter could also be said (not knowing if you believe makes you a theist).
So while the generally used phrase "I'm Agnostic" is probably used incorrectly, Agnosticism is still an option. If you are truly unsure as to whether or not you need to put an "a" in front of your "theist", that is a category.
I'm a nihilist i believe in nothing.