This is not the first topic on these forums, but I think it deserves a repeat now and then. basically, which games do you find to be greatly overrated or underrated?

A few of mine:

ICO
Touted as being an "artistic game", it's a very minimalist approach of puzzles, jumping, platformy bits and escorting. Frankly, most escorting games are terrible and ICO suffers quite a few of the problems usually associated with them; poor AI, lots of time spent waiting for them, etc. To add to this, I found the controls to be horrible. The camera was a pain to control, movement was very buttery and not accurate at all. Sometimes your character would jump immediately, other times, he'd fall down instead. It's not fun at all and when I searched the internet for responses, it seems that people go "yeah that's all true, BUT the relationship between you and the girl is ace!". I guess it just doesn't appeal to me ... .

Bioshock
It's System Shock with better graphics, a great setting but also with many of its flaws, tedious respawning, tedious enemies, tedious combat and tedious linearity. Add a very odd balance between the squishy splicers and the much harder "big daddies" and you get a game that could have been brilliant but, instead, was a very weak one. A real huge shame.

GTA IV
My favorite GTA is Vice City. Great colourful setting, brilliant 80's music, spoof on what the 80's were like, fun missions, etc. When GTA IV appeared, it was the opposite: brown, grey, more grey, more brown. The setting was ugh, the story was irritating and the character I played was a dumb oaf. Then you had the annoying phone calls which made you go "AAAARGH". They also removed quite a few of the stuff I liked - they removed many of the pick ups for example and the game became too serious.

Metal Gear Solid II
I played this back in the days on a PS2, then played it again when I bought a PS2 of my own a few years ago, then played it once more when I got it for free for my Vita. And each time, I lost interest after just an hour or two of playing. The controls are fiddly, aiming is tedious, far too much dialogue that breaks up the gameplay, and most of the time you're struggling with the controls to get where you want to go. Mouse & keyboard would have made these games 100x better. As is, it's not that fun.

I've always felt Half Life II was overrated. Yes, the technology was/is impressive, but the story feels rather weak and the gunplay is just ok.

All the GTA games are different man, why is it everytime people bring up GTA 4 they bring up Vice City? GTA 3 is the worst game in the series imo and its even more bland, brown, dull, grey than GTA 4, but with Worse Controls and non existant story.

San Andreas at first was about the 90s with Hip-Hop/Rap and African American Street Gangsters premise (until later in that setting and premise is diminished with being all over the place such as going to Area 51)

And now GTA 4 which wanted to have a serious story about in immigrant wanting revenge. I don't know why people keep calling Niko Bellic a stupid oaf and saying the story is irritating when I understood it.

Overrated = Total Annihilation

Under = Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project

I'm too tired to expound on why.

Overrated: Resident Evil 4 and Amnesia.

Underrated: Silent Hill Downpour, Resident Evil 1 Remake, Zero, and Outbreak File 1 and 2

Underrated Martian Gothic a survival horror game for the PC and Playstation it was called Resident Evil in Space. Sure it had the clumsy tank controls but it focused more on the puzzles then the combat.It also had a pretty decent story written by the guy who did Dreamweb Stephen Marley. So give it a shot if you want a Decent Survival Horror game its pretty cheap these days.

You do know that GTA4 and MGS2 aren't overrated, right? Most people shit all over those games.

Overrated:

Tomb Raider 2013, between cutscenes, QTEs and scripted sequences it took control away from me way too often. Gave up after an hour.

Zelda: Link to the Past, bored me completely and I just wanted it to end. The only other Zelda I played was Ocarina of Time on the 3DS. That one was nice, but it didn't compel me enough to actually finish it.

Underrated:

PoP Warrior Within and Chrono Cross. Two amazing games (that I find better than the originals) that would have been loved if they were original IPs, but since they're sequels, people hate it because they aren't like the originals.

Already its overrated? And people says the QTEs were only at the beginnning of the game, afterwards its straight gameplay, and enough with saying bad things against cutscenes they have a place in gaming and are appropriate methods of telling a story.

Overrated:

Zelda: Ocarina of Time- this game has spent it's time being called the greatest game of all time, but in all honesty, it isn't. The gameplay was decent but not super great and the story felt really flat and in the end is just another Zelda: Damsel in distress, you're really stretching to say that there's more, The story had zero effect. Oh and the world was so empty, nothing happened in the overworld except a random skeleton attack and that goes away in the last half and there's nothing to do then.

Fallout: New Vegas- I wanted to like this game, I gave it 3 tries and it struck out. I found the story to be no where near as good as it's fans say. All the main factions are stupid, they do stupid things. NCR lets their soldiers starve, Mr house gives you everything you need to screw him over and then proceeds to treat you like shit for no reason, Caesar's legion refuses to use any drugs medicine more advanced than a natural and mild antiseptic (not to Caesar, the auto doc would be worthless without an anesthetic, you can't perform an effective surgery while the patient is squirming around because of extreme pain, and with all the rust and filth around the camp, his soldiers must drop like flies to tetanus.) Then there's the fact the game hardly plays on PC. The game ran like shit on a system that can run both Borderlands 2 and Skyrim on high and no problems and NV runs like a snail, not to mention turning down settings leads me to having invisible enemies shooting me and the stupid giant wasps things appear right on top of me and kill me. I beat it on the PS3 which ran better but there's nothing worth exploring and the game is just boring.

Goldeneye- I don't know why this game gets number 1 on so many best FPS of all time, there are so many better games, more influential FPS games, I don't mind it being on the list but it shouldn't be number 1.

Underrated, I need some positivity:

Dragon's Dogma- I often here that it's a wanabe Dark Souls and not as good but I found it different than at least demon souls and really a much more engaging experience. I love the way you could fight monsters by climbing on them and the much more detailed character customization system, and no one can force me to play PVP that I don't want to play.

Mass Effect 3- the only thing that was really bad was the ending, if I hated a game for the ending, I could count games I liked on one hand. from my experience endings range from terrible to meh, good endings are rare.

Street Fighter 2 and all of its many, many iterations - it invented intricate button combo moves, shame on it! Beat 'em Up peaked with IK+'s 3 way action and started to go downhill from there IMO!

Saying that is like saying choice and concequences in RPGs among other things in RPGs.

Combos are everything in a fighting game and don't say Smash Bros. thats not a fighting game thats a party game.

If combos are everything how did the International Karate games, Way of the Exploding Fist, Yie Ar Kung Fu etc even exist?

To be exact - I like performing sequences of standard moves, I don't like having to pull off crazy combo button presses to perform 1 special move

Overrated: YOUR favorite game!

Underrated: MY favorite game!

I would argue that those game are realistic simulators of martial art fighting while games like Street Fighter, Marvel vs Capcom, Mortal Kombat, and King of Fighters are a completely different thing.

Oh, I don't know, one of my favorite games is Planescape Torment which people often bang on about like its one of the best games ever, and it is, so that's about right!

Outcast is a bit underrated though, especially by people crying that their shiny, expensive graphics cards can't help the voxel engine to be rendered any faster!
But then that one genre replaced the other, and that made me sad!
I do like the Soul Blade/Edge/Caliber series though because they are more about chaining moves and going nuts though!