i am having trouble deciding too. so i don't know who to vote againist sigh....
i can vote againist both :P

Hehe! Yeah although that means you'd probably ave a vote on a Mafia, you'd have one on a townie too. I'd wait until Baz gets back before voting though, and definitely not before Naz has a chance to speak too. And hopefully Vitek comes to claim.

I was thinking Naz was speaking the truth at first, but I think Typhoon had no holes in his story so far either (from what I know a governor as, anyway). He did indeed get the post in between Damnation's lynch and the actual death scene between twilight, so he could actually have done that.. and similarly Naz has very plausible actions too.

Was there a reason why you picked Ghost and Typhoon as your inspect target on those days, Nazarush?

Btw, I can confirm Typhoon was offline on the Gog forum by the time I came on and posted my #494 above.

i guess i will wait too, hmm this is getting interesting.

All right, Im going to try and work through all the questions leveled against me so someone tell me if I missed something.

First off, why investigate Ghost? I really thought she might be mafia based on the way she pulled a lynch reason against Damnation out of thin air. After I got the town result back, I tried to drop support for her in a couple of my posts but didnt want to do anything to obvious and out myself.

Why didnt I defend Ghost when she was about to be lynched? This blame has to go to the rest of the town. You guys got caught up in the idea of some ridiculous scum mason conspiracy, dropped all the other strong leads and lynched her in the span of only about ten hours. That might seem like a long time, but between sleeping and going to class, the bandwagon ended before I saw it start.

Isnt it wierd to have two cops? No, not really. Rolceop is an entirely different role from regular cop. If it had a different name nobody would have even blinked an eye at its presence in the same game as a regular cop.

I know there were other questions so more is on the way

Who do I read as Mafia? Orryrro and Typhoon primarily. Also Vitek. My reasons for all three have been stated and they havent really done anything to change my opinion. Now I know for certain that Typhoon is mafia so I want to lynch him for a guaranteed mafia kill.

Why did I choose Typhoon to inspect? He was high on my scumlist. Orryrro was just as high but, as mentioned earlier in the game, I think Orryrrro might be a godfather based on his desire to be inspected by a cop. If that was the case, I didnt want to waste my investigation on him so I targeted Typhoon instead and struck gold.

Why was I not on either lynchwagon? Because I didnt agree with them. I stated outright that I didnt believe Ghost's claim of how his wording proved he was scum. There was little I could do to defend him after he claimed scum but Istill highly doubted he would ruin the game like that. As for the Ghost lynchwagon, I obviously wasnt going to lynch her after getting a town result and I have already explained why I could not defend her.

Am I missing anything?

I don't think so, and I agree, I wasn't around for Ghost's lynch either. Thanks for the replies. These are the updated claims while still waiting on Vitek:

1. Typhoon - Jack Layton - Governor (24h to send a PM to prevent lynch, can't prevent on himself)
2 jesskitten - Jack London - Survivor (3rd party)
4. Robbeasy - Jack White - Town Mason (With Ghost)
5. Bazilisek - Jack Bauer - Jack of All Trades (passed first night, got roleblocked 2nd night)
7. Rooshandark - Jack and Jill - Doublevoter
9. Nazarush - Jack Frost - Cop (Investigated Ghost (Town), Typhoon (Mafia))
10. Vitek - ?
12. Orryyrro - Union Jack - Vanilla

Known hidden remaining roles: Roleblocker (likely Mafia)

Lets get rid of typhoon, But if hes not mafia we know whos mafia than "Nazarush"

Vote Typhoon x2

This is not easy.

The theory that its not a simple 3 Mafia game seems strong, with all the claims knocking about. It puts the final nail into my Damnation theory from day 1 really (Let me all hear you cheer that I'm finally leaving that one alone!)..

For that reason - Unvote Orryrro - I still dont like the claim you made, but its too close to major trouble to lynch someone solely on that one piece of info.

Nazarush Cop claim - one thing for me which strongly goes in his favour is that if he were Mafia, how risky would it be to claim Cop when there has already been a Cop uncovered - albeit a Rolecop.? Very, I think. Plus, his posting and style has been in line with how a cop would behave. I'm very inclined to believe Nazarush, and as Roosh says, if Typhoon turns up Town, Nazarush is a surefire Lynch tomorrow.

Buuuuuuut - the very fact it looks like its NOT a simple 9/3 Mafia game makes me wonder all over again about Roosh - 2 Mafia, one with a doublevote?? Possibility I suppose...

Typhoons claim - Governer. Difficult to disprove. Handy for him that he hasn't used it yet...

Its a difficult one - it comes down to who you believe. I believe Nazarush.

Therefore Vote Typhoon45

Vote Count
If Typhoon45 isn't mafia Nazarush your dead.

Typhoon has 4 votes, with 5 needed to lynch. (Nazarush, Rooshx2, Robb)
Nazarush has 1 (Typhoon)
Non-voters are me, baz, Vitek, Orry.

I'm loathe to vote before Vitek checks in.. else he's totally going to miss this day minus his one post to say he was out of it. I want to hear his opinion. Baz too should soon be back (I think?).

One thing struck me, who's even heard of Jack Layton outside of Canada? I have since I live here, and I note from his location field Typhoon would too, but how well is he known in Europe, even though it's election time now? Just curious.. may be just weak metagamey evidence there.

Jack Layton?? Never heard of him.

Hello folks,
once again I am here. I still have no internet but I am on visit at my parent's house so I can at least post from here. Today and tomorrow. But still I have only limited time to read this so don't expect any kind of deep analysis.
I should finally have internet by Thursday.
I think everybody is waiting for my claim so here it is.
I am Jack Kemp, Politician. As it I can use my connections to find real name of any player. As we already claimed I think it's bit useless. I used it on Nazarush last night and I can only confirm his names is not fake. :-)
I have previously already suspected Typhoon and now with Nazarush statement there is nothing that can clear him in my eyes. I can also give away my main reason to suspect Typhoon. I learnt his name on night 1 and found out he is not Jack but Jacques. So his name differs from others.
Therefore I think there is no resaon not to do this: vote Typhoon45.

Well, if that is true, it means he lied about his name, since he claimed Jack Layton.

Final votecount of the day

Typhoon - 5 - Naz, Roosh, Roosh, Rob, Vitek
Naz - 1 - Typhoon

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

It is now twilight. You may continue discussion until I post the night scene.

Also, I should point out that he(Vitek) would have no reason to lie I can see, as it would incriminate him it was false, since Typhoon only needed one more vote on him to be lynched.