Hi!
Using occasion i will start discussion about this s**tty thing.
UBISOFT is planning kill PC game market. All developer using DRM are just stupid - they treat us their customers as an thieves. And when i am treated like one i am really tempted to act as one.
But im not. I just decide not to buy and not to play with those games (some titles are really hard to resist - but i swear to myself).
What do You think about it?

Of course I dont like DRM, but its a symptom and and not the cause.
If people werent such dipshits and steal everything they can get away with, we wouldnt have all this problems.
As for Ubisoft DRM - Havent thougt about it yet, I will once a game I care about is affected... and then Ill likely just get the PS3 Version which wont have such DRM.

DRM sucks arse. I am not one for buying games with it. Or games with some sort of DRM that is somewhat restrictive.
I don't mind the old authentication key or disk check but sometimes DRM is just an excuse for me to be playing on a console instead. Good old consoles.

I disagree. Its like the car companies would make a satelitte verification system because people steal cars. Thieves were since people are and they will be. Protection systems should hit on them not in legal buyers. DRM is stupid becasue it cause problems for legal customers - not thieves. They will not have those kind of problems.
So DRM is just a sh*t.
I agree - authentication key or disk check doesnt restrict my freedom. I can play wherewer i want no matter if i hav or havent accsess do internet. DRM is not the way.

DRM isn't about protecting against piracy. It serves two purposes. One, it makes the publisher appear to be combating piracy. Two, it controls the rights of paying customers, lessening the viability of the second hand market and the chances of games working in future.

And this is WHY i won buy product include one.
When im buyng somethin i buying for me - not renting from developer.

Some DRM schemes are pretty transparent though. Even less bothersome than a serial or disc check even. I'm all for making an informed choice. But a blanket boycott isn't realistic.

But every DRM requaiers an internet connection - so if i am in some place without one i cant play in game witch i bought.

Not true. Many require online activation. But not all. Even those that do only require a one off activation, so once it's installed you don't need to worry about having an internet connection to be able to play your games.

BZZZT! Wrong!
Guess what? CD-Checks, serial numbers, the tab on the floppy, and even reading from a manual are all forms of DRM.
Generally not a good idea to boycott or complain about things you don't understand.
Because knowledge is power. And knowing is half the battle. And Scarlet was hot.

Wow, we haven't had this discussion before now...
DRM itself as a concept is not bad, its the execution of that concept that can be bad. There is nothing inherently wrong with a company protecting its property, but when that "protection" interferes with the legitimate customers rights or ability to use a product, but does nothing to stop the illegitimate user of a product, then it becomes bad. The problem is, there are no protections out there that can stop the illegitimate use of a product, but there are plenty of them that will restrict legitimate customers. Disk checks, serial keys, etc. are all relatively non-invasive forms of DRM and they really don't do anything that will interfere with your gameplay, but at the same time, they are probably the easiest form of DRM to crack, hence why the publishers have moved on to more invasive forms of DRM, like the latest form of SecuROM and Ubisoft's "DRM that is not DRM". The problem is, even these forms of DRM are easy to crack; maybe slightly harder that cracking a serial code, but still easy enough that a game can be cracked within 24 hours of its release date (24 hours before or after release date, that is).
The only truly effective "DRM" is to create products that the people are willing and happy to pay for and to sell those products at a reasonable price. GOG has already figured this out, slowly the publishers (well, some of them) are also starting to figure this out, eventually all of them will get it or they will lose business, as I'm sure Ubisoft is soon to learn.

Yes, exactly. DRM is meant for the publishers to have the last say on the games they sell. When they stop making patches for it, when they retire the online servers for it, when to make people upgrade. Basically its aimed towards having something like a game "service" like utilities that you do not own at all and is leased to you. Like when you buy a game from steam, you dont actually buy anything, you just rent a parking space in steam's big parking lot. That's it.

But what if i want to install the game on computer without internet acess? Yes - i have one in my parents house.
BZZt WRONG!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management
Quote:
The term generally doesn't refer to other forms of copy protection which can be circumvented without modifying the file or device, such as serial numbers or keyfiles. It can also refer to restrictions associated with specific instances of digital works or devices.

Uhhh... stealing cars is a bit different than just grabbing some files while residing in your own 4 walls, dont you think?
If you want a car analogy, DRM would be the police controlling your papers. Even if you own the car you arent allowed to use it unless you have insurance and a driver-license, both which can be controlled or rewoked at any time. Pesky Car DRM, you cant even run over people without losing the right to drive your own car!!!
Good protection systems are hard to on an open plattform like the PC.

Because if wiki says it, it must be true :p
Seriously, the term is a catch-all. It tends to be used to refer to things like activation models and the like because people prefer to say they hate all DRM.
Using the blurb you yourself copied: "it can also refer to restrictions associated with specific instances of digital works or devices". What do serials and disc-checks restrict? :p