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Posted February 16, 2013
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441635: Speaking of emulators etc but in a totally different context, is it a fool's hope to wish that one day it can be authorized to play SNES/Sega Megadrive games on PC? There were so many brilliant titles on those consoles, and a PC/Mac/Linux port would be a good way to preserve and remember those gems.
SEGA sells Megadrive games bundled with their own proprietary emulator:

http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DDB-SEGAGE/sega-mega-drive-classic-collection-gold-edition-bundle
Post edited February 16, 2013 by amok
Posted February 16, 2013
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441635: Speaking of emulators etc but in a totally different context, is it a fool's hope to wish that one day it can be authorized to play SNES/Sega Megadrive games on PC? There were so many brilliant titles on those consoles, and a PC/Mac/Linux port would be a good way to preserve and remember those gems.
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amok: SEGA hare selling Megadrive games bundled with their own proprietary emulator:

http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DDB-SEGAGE/sega-mega-drive-classic-collection-gold-edition-bundle
It's also on Steam http://store.steampowered.com/sub/4839/
Posted February 16, 2013
Oh shoot! What was I thinking about when I wrote "Sega Megadrive"?? I even posted a topic about the Sega Megadrive Classic Collection a few days/weeks ago. Thanks guys for refreshing my memory. Would be nice to see the same thing happening for the SNES (would love to be able to play Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, TMNT IV: Turtles In Time etc on PC).
Post edited February 16, 2013 by 441635
Posted February 16, 2013
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F4LL0UT: You have any suggestions for some good AGA/CD32 titles? I had already converted to DOS gaming when that stuff came along so I don't know many titles from that late Amiga era, especially ones that weren't also available on other systems. Only Alien Breed 3D and Gloom come to my mind but as far as I can tell they are far far worse than the better shooters that were available on PC at the time.
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amok: to many...

from the top of my head:

Banshee
Big Red Adventure
Guardian
Wasted Dreams
Breathless
Sixth Sense Investigations
Oscar
Super Stardust
Sleepwalker
D/Generation
Bloodnet
Exile
Burntime

Those are a few AGA only games (I think they are all AGA only... but it might need to be checker) , and then there are the lot which have enhanced (and superior) AGA versions, for example Superfrog, Syndicate and so on.
PFTFY removed the ones I know for certain aren't AGA some of those removed will be ECS though (500+) one point of note is that AGA kickstart only runs about 70% of games there are many games that won't even run on ECS (2.0+)

To play all amiga games you really need both an AGA(3.0) and a OCS(1.3 preffered) to run everything
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441635: Oh shoot! What was I thinking about when I wrote "Sega Megadrive"?? I even posted a topic about the Sega Megadrive Classic Collection a few days/weeks ago. Thanks guys for refreshing my memory. Would be nice to see the same thing happening for the SNES (would love to be able to play Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, TMNT IV: Turtles In Time etc on PC).
IF and I mean IF you own the carts you are able to exploit certain grey areas of ownership to the games in emulators (most NES and SNES emu's have no Nintendo code in them)
Post edited February 16, 2013 by wodmarach
Posted February 16, 2013
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tomimt: I wonder would it really be financially viable to sell emulated games in GOG. Sure, there some pretty good games there, but all in all, I don't think the market would be that big.
DOSBox is a PC emulator..

Meanwhile, while the Amiga ROM code may be rather impossible to license, it used to be common to write the games to the hardware directly. I do my Amiga gaming on real hardware and haven't followed this scene closely for a while, but I imagine such games could work just fine with only a small replacement that helps them boot up. There's even a replacement operating system around, which may work for some of them.
Posted February 16, 2013
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tomimt: I wonder would it really be financially viable to sell emulated games in GOG. Sure, there some pretty good games there, but all in all, I don't think the market would be that big.
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Rixasha: DOSBox is a PC emulator..

Meanwhile, while the Amiga ROM code may be rather impossible to license, it used to be common to write the games to the hardware directly. I do my Amiga gaming on real hardware and haven't followed this scene closely for a while, but I imagine such games could work just fine with only a small replacement that helps them boot up. There's even a replacement operating system around, which may work for some of them.
The kickstart ROM is actually the BIOS, the OS was workbench. DOSBox is actually closer to a wrapper when it comes to BIOS calls.
Posted February 16, 2013
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StarEye: Oh, and the Amiga version of Putty Squad were never released, only a demo of it. Putty (or Silly Putty some places) were though, but that didn't get an AGA version.
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amok: Putty Squad is finshed. It was a shame it was never given a official release, but the final build has been "leaked" by a couple of the developers. A little search, and you can get it. Maybe not completely legally, but in this case it was corporate mess which meant that a finished game did not see daylight, so I do not really care.

Edit: it seems it is not so easy getting Putty Squad any more, there seem to have been a purge, and there was a re-release on PS3 and i-devices last year. Coincidence?
There was never a "purge" - it never leaked, and if it was, it is long gone, and it was gone long before the re-releases on PS3 and i-devices. . Considering the piracy on the Amiga at that time, there's no chance in hell it hadn't been spread to the moon and back if it had been leaked. Every new game spread like wildfire. The only proof of there being a finished copy of the game was the Amiga Power review, and even that copy have magically disappeared or something. Putty Squad Amiga is unfortunately a lot cause, and the only way to get it on the Amiga today would be if System 3 released it themselves. It's almost considered to be a "holy grail" among Amiga gamers nowadays.

It was released on the SNES, though, and I have a theory that people either mistake the original Amiga Putty, or the SNES release of Putty Squad for being Amiga Putty Squad.
Posted February 16, 2013
The Amiga was a great system, glad our family had one when I was young :) WinUAE is a good (and legal) emulator but a lot trickier than say DOSbox or similar emulators, so getting Amiga games on GoG would prove a problem. However I'd certainly pay for a Shadow of the Beast collection and/or similar titles!
Posted February 16, 2013
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wodmarach: The kickstart ROM is actually the BIOS, the OS was workbench. DOSBox is actually closer to a wrapper when it comes to BIOS calls.
It's not just a wrapper; it emulates the CPU, the graphics hardware, the sound hardware, network hardware... it even works on non-x86 architectures. It's not that much different from WinUAE.

EDIT: and it looks like it has been ported to the Amiga, too.
Post edited February 16, 2013 by Rixasha
Posted February 16, 2013
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wodmarach: The kickstart ROM is actually the BIOS, the OS was workbench. DOSBox is actually closer to a wrapper when it comes to BIOS calls.
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Rixasha: It's not just a wrapper; it emulates the CPU, the graphics hardware, the sound hardware, network hardware... it even works on non-x86 architectures. It's not that much different from WinUAE.

EDIT: and it looks like it has been ported to the Amiga, too.
It's not really a emulator in the strictest sense of the meaning of emulation. If it was more software would work, like share.exe which doesn't. DOSBox is more a simulator than an emulator, it fakes enough of both the hardware and MS-DOS to get games to work but not all the games.
Post edited February 16, 2013 by PeterPanPirate
Posted February 16, 2013
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Rixasha: snip
You'll notice i said when it comes to BIOS calls. The rest of the time...
Posted February 16, 2013
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amok: Putty Squad is finshed. It was a shame it was never given a official release, but the final build has been "leaked" by a couple of the developers. A little search, and you can get it. Maybe not completely legally, but in this case it was corporate mess which meant that a finished game did not see daylight, so I do not really care.

Edit: it seems it is not so easy getting Putty Squad any more, there seem to have been a purge, and there was a re-release on PS3 and i-devices last year. Coincidence?
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StarEye: There was never a "purge" - it never leaked, and if it was, it is long gone, and it was gone long before the re-releases on PS3 and i-devices. . Considering the piracy on the Amiga at that time, there's no chance in hell it hadn't been spread to the moon and back if it had been leaked. Every new game spread like wildfire. The only proof of there being a finished copy of the game was the Amiga Power review, and even that copy have magically disappeared or something. Putty Squad Amiga is unfortunately a lot cause, and the only way to get it on the Amiga today would be if System 3 released it themselves. It's almost considered to be a "holy grail" among Amiga gamers nowadays.

It was released on the SNES, though, and I have a theory that people either mistake the original Amiga Putty, or the SNES release of Putty Squad for being Amiga Putty Squad.
That's fine. I swear I played the full version some years ago, and the rumours where that it was from a couple of the devs. I might be wrong, or tricked.... I remember that it was fun, though :)

I think I got that version from game archive, it is where I got most things then, but it is no longer there... So you are probably right, and my brain plays tricks on me.


Side note - AmigaOS is still up and running. 4.1 v6 was released in November last year. If people are interested in an alternative OS it can be found here - http://www.amigaos.net/
Post edited February 16, 2013 by amok
Posted February 16, 2013
AmigaOS requires PowerPC, unfortunately. I would seriously consider it as an option if it would run on any pc hardware.
Posted March 24, 2013
that would be great if happen!
Posted August 28, 2013
Sorry for the bump, but I'd also like to see Amiga games here on GOG.
I mean, there are many good games here that are sold in their inferior DOS version (at least before the VGA time) that I could never buy, not after having played them on Amiga. Even for games with very similar graphics on both versions, the sound often makes a big difference.

I understand that the Amiga emulation could be a problem, mostly on a legal plan.
But what about Amiga games that work on ScummVM?
Post edited August 28, 2013 by DarthKaal
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