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zzztopzzz: I appreciate your take. Myself and many others build period PC's in order to run older games. That's what it's all about. We are not interested in running older games on current systems. Gog used to be a great resource for older DRM free games and occasionally, one stumbles across one here on the site. If you are a millennial, I can fully understand your views; you don't miss what you never had.
It has nothing to do with age, there just isn't much reason to have a legacy PC because the vast, vast majority of software people care about runs fine on Windows 10. Even the rare games I knew of that did not GOG eventually got around to fixing, like Shadows of the Empire. That's one of the great things about the PC, you can play pretty much everything on modern hardware.

That said if you want to run some really obscure stuff it is cool to have a legacy PC setup. I watch LGR on Youtube all the time and it's cool to see that stuff running. However there's nothing on GOG that requires that, so there's no reason to worry about. There's no real reason to opt to play something on XP when it works fine on Windows 10.
If a GOG game doesn't run on Windws XP, just use a non-GOG version. I mean, the idea behind GOG was to run in modern OSes, not the "real hard experience".
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jonridan: If a GOG game doesn't run on Windws XP, just use a non-GOG version. I mean, the idea behind GOG was to run in modern OSes, not the "real hard experience".
Exactly this.

Unsure what's your issue OP.

If you want to run old games like old times you should not use gog.

Get original cds and run the games like that.

Gog was always designed to make games run on modern machines not the original ones.

Therefore you are mixing two different concepts to achieve nothing.

Either use era appropriate hardware, software OS and software games from cds and dvds.

Or use modern system to play older game.
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jonridan: If a GOG game doesn't run on Windws XP, just use a non-GOG version. I mean, the idea behind GOG was to run in modern OSes, not the "real hard experience".
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lukaszthegreat: Exactly this.

Unsure what's your issue OP.

If you want to run old games like old times you should not use gog.

Get original cds and run the games like that.

Gog was always designed to make games run on modern machines not the original ones.

Therefore you are mixing two different concepts to achieve nothing.

Either use era appropriate hardware, software OS and software games from cds and dvds.

Or use modern system to play older game.
It's a hobby. It's very difficult to find older games on original CD's at reasonable prices. Downloads from dark sites are risky. BTW, who are you to tell me not to use GOG? I spent some time yesterday combing GOG and did manage to find a plethora of XP games to be had. I've always been able to download XP games in the past from GOG. I suppose I should have stated that GOG ought to have a section for older hardware compliant games to make it somewhat easier to find. No need to preach to me about hardware and software as I've been at this since the 70's. Also, there are more "old PC" hobbyist out there than you think. Also, you should rethink this one: "Gog was always designed to make games run on modern machines not the original ones". Have a nice day.
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zzztopzzz: I appreciate your take. Myself and many others build period PC's in order to run older games. That's what it's all about. We are not interested in running older games on current systems. Gog used to be a great resource for older DRM free games and occasionally, one stumbles across one here on the site. If you are a millennial, I can fully understand your views; you don't miss what you never had.
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StingingVelvet: It has nothing to do with age, there just isn't much reason to have a legacy PC because the vast, vast majority of software people care about runs fine on Windows 10. Even the rare games I knew of that did not GOG eventually got around to fixing, like Shadows of the Empire. That's one of the great things about the PC, you can play pretty much everything on modern hardware.

That said if you want to run some really obscure stuff it is cool to have a legacy PC setup. I watch LGR on Youtube all the time and it's cool to see that stuff running. However there's nothing on GOG that requires that, so there's no reason to worry about. There's no real reason to opt to play something on XP when it works fine on Windows 10.
And there is always the Virtual Machine option, or a dual boot.
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lukaszthegreat: Exactly this.

Unsure what's your issue OP.

If you want to run old games like old times you should not use gog.

Get original cds and run the games like that.

Gog was always designed to make games run on modern machines not the original ones.

Therefore you are mixing two different concepts to achieve nothing.

Either use era appropriate hardware, software OS and software games from cds and dvds.

Or use modern system to play older game.
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zzztopzzz: It's a hobby. It's very difficult to find older games on original CD's at reasonable prices. Downloads from dark sites are risky. BTW, who are you to tell me not to use GOG? I spent some time yesterday combing GOG and did manage to find a plethora of XP games to be had. I've always been able to download XP games in the past from GOG. I suppose I should have stated that GOG ought to have a section for older hardware compliant games to make it somewhat easier to find. No need to preach to me about hardware and software as I've been at this since the 70's. Also, there are more "old PC" hobbyist out there than you think. Also, you should rethink this one: "Gog was always designed to make games run on modern machines not the original ones". Have a nice day.
Bullshit. From the start,GOG's aidt it mission was to sel versions of classic games that will work on modern Operating Systems.
GOG installers I think, , , never supported Windows 95 or 98.
You have a right to do what you want to do, of course, and I am planning, when I upgrade to Windows 10 in the near future, to keep my Windows 7 computer around (using a switch to share the monitor, keyboard/muse,and speakers bwtween the tow computers) but you are being more then a little unreasonable here. You can't expect the world to cater to your own preferences.
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zzztopzzz: Am I missing something? Where are the games that will run in native Window XP. All I see these days are Windows 7,8, & 10.
XP is now a legacy system, just like DOS or Windows 95/98.
Post edited June 19, 2019 by dudalb
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zzztopzzz: I appreciate your take. Myself and many others build period PC's in order to run older games. That's what it's all about. We are not interested in running older games on current systems. Gog used to be a great resource for older DRM free games and occasionally, one stumbles across one here on the site. If you are a millennial, I can fully understand your views; you don't miss what you never had.
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Darvond: Lad, or lady. I was born after The Berlin Wall fell, and before the USSR formally collapsed. I dinnae have the time or money, nor the stowing space for all the equipment required for your kind of setup; not to mention old hardware like that could be such a pain up the [epithet].

It suits you just fine, and that's fine, but I'm more like Pixelmusement.
You are right of course. "You can't expect the world to cater to your own preferences". However, most entities do cater to money. I for one would be willing to pay a little more for native games with stripped DRM. BTW, and after further review, there are plenty of XP, Vista; & W7 games on GOG. I just need to be more patient with searches. No "Bullshit".
Some older games still runs on WXP, like Alone in the Dark.

It's a shame that gog mixes does not exist anymore...
Honestly it is mayby only me but I am happy if they keep supporting Windows 7. Windows 10 may be good for actual games but Windows 7 let old games still work fine which under Windows 10 stopped working. I am still waiting for GoG to offer Lemmings Revolution and Der Verkehrsgigant Gold because those fell victim to Windows 10.
To be fair, it's more than the OS when dealing with older games. Some of the problems are hardware oriented. There are many older games that run on XP but require a CPU that supports SSE3 or require at least a dual core or a 64-bit chip, as well as a high end AGP/PCI video card. GOG does a pretty good job of outlining the minimum specs to run their offerings.
Post edited June 20, 2019 by zzztopzzz
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zzztopzzz: there are plenty of XP, Vista; & W7 games on GOG.
There are. The trouble with using GOG games under legacy systems like XP is that GOG might have to break compatibility for that system to get it running under newer systems, even if the game originally was designed for XP. As they don't officially support Windows XP anymore.

I have two older systems, one running XP and one running 98SE. GOG games don't touch either of them as I just buy the original game. Most older games are not tough to find eBay for example has loads of big boxed PC games.
Games that were previously sold as Windows XP compatible are still working on that OS, few weeks ago I've installed Blood 2 on my 10 years old notebook and it's working just fine.

The actual problem is the lack of specifics filters on the store, like the ones we have in our account library.
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Sildring: Games that were previously sold as Windows XP compatible are still working on that OS, few weeks ago I've installed Blood 2 on my 10 years old notebook and it's working just fine.

The actual problem is the lack of specifics filters on the store, like the ones we have in our account library.
I got that game on GOG for @ $2.37 US. Easy install on my XP box and runs on W10 also.
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zzztopzzz: I appreciate your take. Myself and many others build period PC's in order to run older games. That's what it's all about. We are not interested in running older games on current systems. Gog used to be a great resource for older DRM free games and occasionally, one stumbles across one here on the site. If you are a millennial, I can fully understand your views; you don't miss what you never had.
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StingingVelvet: It has nothing to do with age, there just isn't much reason to have a legacy PC because the vast, vast majority of software people care about runs fine on Windows 10. Even the rare games I knew of that did not GOG eventually got around to fixing, like Shadows of the Empire. That's one of the great things about the PC, you can play pretty much everything on modern hardware.

That said if you want to run some really obscure stuff it is cool to have a legacy PC setup. I watch LGR on Youtube all the time and it's cool to see that stuff running. However there's nothing on GOG that requires that, so there's no reason to worry about. There's no real reason to opt to play something on XP when it works fine on Windows 10.
It's definitely about the number of people using a given OS, but Windows 10 is horrible. It might run the software just fine, but it also does a bunch of horrible things. There's a reason why so many people upgraded back to 7 from the free 10 upgrade.

I don't disagree with folks saying that GOG can't necessarily support all versions of Windows in perpetuity, it would be nice if they would retain the last version tested on no longer supported OS versions for Windows and OSX. Or at least notified people when an update was no longer being tested on previously supported versions before removing the older binaries.

That way, folks who did care could at least know to keep backups of those versions.

That being said, Win XP is a really, really old OS, Windows 7 is a much more reasonable place to draw the line, considering when all the games were originally released on the platform.
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Sildring: Games that were previously sold as Windows XP compatible are still working on that OS, few weeks ago I've installed Blood 2 on my 10 years old notebook and it's working just fine.

The actual problem is the lack of specifics filters on the store, like the ones we have in our account library.
Games that receive patches that aren't tested on previously supported OS versions should have the last tested version remain indefinitely. In most cases, it's not a very big expense and it ensures that people get to keep the games they've paid for.

At least leave them up long enough for folks to know if newer versions are still going to work. Things like 32bit installers can render newer OSes unable to run things that are fine with older OSes, but also make the new versions completely unusable on older OS versions.
Post edited June 23, 2019 by hedwards
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zzztopzzz: Am I missing something? Where are the games that will run in native Window XP. All I see these days are Windows 7,8, & 10.
Older installers worked on xp. Though i recall Soul Reaver not running right on an XP machine (sound wasn't working right, probably due to not having multiple cores)