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fables22: Yes. First off, posting on the forum should not be regarded as a right - it's more of a privilege. Secondly, yes, we set the rules. We could even go as far as saying that we can remove whatever we feel is inappropriate, even if that's massively subjective.
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micktiegs_8: Sorry to add to the off-topic, but the thing that kinda bothers me the most is that if someone trolls the forum (among other things) bad enough, then GOG can permanently ban them from the website. How does said individual buy games here, then? I mean... trolls still buy games don't they? :p
What's the source of this? Because the banning system has changed.
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fables22: Yes. First off, posting on the forum should not be regarded as a right - it's more of a privilege. Secondly, yes, we set the rules. We could even go as far as saying that we can remove whatever we feel is inappropriate, even if that's massively subjective.
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Shadowstalker16: I know you can, and I believe you should be able to do it; as its your site and you're the one paying to keep it up. It doesn't change the fact that the rule is vague and in-concise. I was saying that he is accepting what any serious thought would point out to be a bad and ultimately limiting rule in the name of purging the phobias and isms from the earth.
The rule is only as (in)concise as it's application. The forum rules as they stand right now are not especially explicit, which is one of the reasons they're getting an overhaul. Hopefully the new set will clear most of this up. Although as I've concluded through many a discussion with the community, no rules will ever be covering a 100% of what's bannable and/or be in accordance with absolutely everyone's personal beliefs.
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fables22: What's the source of this? Because the banning system has changed.
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micktiegs_8: https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212182929-What-are-the-house-rules-Code-of-Conduct-for-posting-on-the-website

Remember that the ability to post on the website is a privilege and not a right. If a user is found ignoring or repeatedly violating the rules stated above and/or the website's Terms of Use, depending upon severity, he/she will lose an adequate amount of reputation points, and:
- be given a warning from a moderator or GOG.com employee, or
- be temporary banned from the GOG.com forums and/or website for a “cooldown period”, or
- be permanently banned from the GOG.com forums and/or website.

edit: I see what you said above. Well, that's what I was referring to anyways :)
Right, that was a misunderstanding on my part, I guess - I read it as: a ban is a ban from accessing the website altogether, not only from the forum - which was the commonly believed around the forum.

So yes, that still stands - but it's the hierarchy of the banning system that is the most important.
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fables22: Yes. First off, posting on the forum should not be regarded as a right - it's more of a privilege.
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vsr: What does that mean?
Downreppers will finally lose theirs bots (or will have to buy games to continue theirs notorious activity)?
No, that's not what it means. That means that being allowed to post on the forums is not your right if you're a GOG user. If you're a GOG user and adhere to the forum rules, you'll have the privilege to interact with other users on the forums. Downrepping is a whole other issue, mostly covered within the spamming rules.
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JMich: Aha! Curiouser and curiouser. I'll have to pay a bit more attention then to not repeat outdated information.
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Wishbone: That would of course be somewhat easier if GOG actually provided the updated information. Sadly, historically speaking at least, communication is not a strong suit of GOG's.
In all honesty, while I do agree that knowing how banning is executed and what offences are going to be affected by what bans is important for the users, I don't believe that knowing how it works internally is detrimental to people's behaviour on the forum. In other words, if you adhere to the forum rules or react positively should you slip up and receive a warning, why is it dealbreaking for you to know whether we would ever ban someone from accessing their library or from buying games?


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Fairfox: Seems liek this has gone ker-razy off-topic an' all should be in teh other threadie. Ho hum, Imma contribute to taht, sorryksorry.

Mah quick, dirty, overall impressions of GOGie's general forums are: It's a safe place to be called retarded, told homophobia is a perversion, held to a weird standard because Imma not male, told I should be raped, learnin' (in teh verrr loosest sense) all kinds of right(-right)-wing political paranoia, seein' moar xenophobic an' religious fervor thaaan I cans shake a stick at, an' wadin' thru trolls an' scammers taaaht don't even care (an' in teh latter case ruined giveaways). Teh stick? It's brown an' sticky. Odd thang to focus on... *shifty eyes*

Then somethang, somethang gamies waaai down teh list. An' humor; nevah forget teh humor. Not my humor :/

Lordy-Lord help teh passerbys an' lurkers.
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Damage done with Google results.

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Imma Fairfox an' nice (mostly). I write real weird, which causes mass-attacks in teh non-physical sense. Hai to passerbys an' lurkers! <3

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I liek fables(22) <3
Thanks <3
Post edited February 27, 2017 by fables22
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Wishbone: That would of course be somewhat easier if GOG actually provided the updated information.
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JMich: The information I had from forum interaction was that GOG can (and occasionally does) ban people from posting on the forum, while leaving them able to use the store and/or the PM system. If said technical side of the bans had changed, I would like to know of it so I don't spread outdated information.
What can cause said ban is (for me) irrelevant, since the ToS say that anything and everything can be cause for a ban, without GOG having to explain themselves.

But seems like the same ban system that was previously used is still in effect, though it should now be enforced a bit more.
In that case, you had the correct information. I was under the impression that the common understanding here was that we don't ban people, because we effectively cannot, because it would also imply restricting their access to the store.
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Breja: I have this entirely wild idea. It's so crazy it just might work:

First, lets ask Fables to close this thread, since it has become a hopelessly derailed mess and start a new "we are under attack vol 2" thread to actually serve for it's intended purpose.

Secondly, let's all agree to what I think every decent person no matter their views and personal issues with other users can agree- that regardless of the subject matter and personal opinion calling people "subhuman trash" etc., advocating and supporting violence and insulting other users is unacceptable and we need moderation to get rid of it.

Thirdly, let everyone who does not agree with it seek greener, insult and hate friendly pastures elsewhere in wide indoors of the internet, of which this is only a tiny, private corner.

And that's it. Let's just try to have civil discussions about games and stuff like that from that point on, and see how tht goes.

Or we can keep repeating things that everyone has already said to each other on all those political subjects, keep arguing and keep all those grudges going.
Yep, attempted to try this when I first came about because I didn't have many other means, and look where it got us :) I've stopped believing that asking people to be civil will do it.
I'm going to lock this thread - mostly because it's not been on topic a long while, and it turned into a demonstration of exactly what problems we face and have been facing on this forum. I don't want to make locking threads a habit or something that happens on a regular basis, but I'd like to ask everyone to honestly try and lead their discussions on here differently, re-think the way they conduct themselves, and think about how they could be more respectful towards others.

It seems that there's hostility going on between people/groups of people, that has been going on for ages, and I'm pretty sure we won't solve it any time soon. To those involved in this, I just have one piece of advice - sometimes ignorance is the best policy.

You're more than welcome to open another thread if you wish to continue the topic, but I won't be creating a "containment" thread for it as I don't believe those work - again, this thread only proved that the hostility will find its way into other places too.