Isn't that the entire point of Steam+their DRM? That they retain control over the games and can cancel your license to play them whenever they feel like it? And no, it wouldn't even be confiscation. You can only confiscate stuff from someone that he owns. But you don't own the games on Steam. You are just allowed to play them and that permission can be withdrawn.

Before anyone shouts it: yes, I'm aware that there are also DRM-free games on Steam, which you can keep playing without Steam account. But I'm not talking about them. The entire 'Games as a Service' idea is based on, surprise, games as a service. And a service can be terminated. You know that risk when buying playing licenses from Steam.

Anyhow. In this case I think only forum access was banned. Which is entirely justified. If someone goes around banning other users just because he can then complains for getting banned himself, that's just hypocritical.

I hate Steam. Why I'm here on gog. If I buy a game its mine. i don't care about little legal details of services and fine prints / clauses. why I have physical retail copy of games that are connected to steam. Not just digital ones. I thank Gog I can download and store my games. So GOG Thank you very much! On Steam games to avoid using there "SERVICES" I crack my games. No steam client needed. Steam what bullshit.

Now Its difficult to figure out exactly what happened with the op.. Maybe he's shady as fuck.. I don't know.. But he legally bought those games.. OP has right to it. They want to ban his online,, support,,, forum access sure.. whatever.. But to deny access to his payed games. Sorry.. I have a problem with that.

Only thing I can suggest is make this legal and public.. Let people know How shady Steam is too.

While functionally true for most users, that's also avoidable. If Valve decided to ban my account, I'd still be able to play almost all of my Steam games indefinitely. If you set up Offline Mode, it won't stop you from playing your games. It'll nag you all the time to log on and install updates, but I've gone years and years in offline mode (one of my laptops has been in offline mode since 2013) and still been able to play games just fine.

This is certainly a case of an overreaction by Valve mods, but it's absolutely the fault of the user who would have been completely fine had they just shut up and let it lie.

There are plenty of games on Steam you can download and store. Don't spread lies now.

Something interesting that is related to this -
https://hackerone.com/valve

In short, Valve is offering $100 per round for anyone hunting up exploits on their platform. So, if Kaby is telling the truth, Valve is attempting to stinge on him now?

Hey PookaMustard,

Your adaptation of my text is very clear. I'm sorry, I can be unclear sometimes. And my English is not very well...

You can download them and then play them without the client. GOG, on the other hand, offers offline installers, which are the only reliable way to preserve your games. Because a lot of games don't work if you simply move the directory folder to another computer. They need the new registry entries that come with a fresh install. You can still play those games on the PC where you installed them, of course, but "DRM-free", "You keep your games", "Steam sells DRM-free games" are lies.

This amount of planning and future-proofing against Valve shouldn't be needed. He should just use their client as it was intended without any fear in a not-so ideal world but more ideal than ours. If he goes online and logs with his account in this scenario, who knows what would happen? Or what will happen if he signs in with another account by accident? And that doesn't address the stuff he didn't download. It is as best, just a workaround that solves nothing of the big issue at hand.

I could argue that if he let it lie, Steam would have noticed and issued a ban against him. Except in this case, he doesn't have the defense of "I found it and I'm telling you it exists", but rather Valve has the defense that "No, you kept that to yourself and ran away with it."

It is strange indeed. But notice how this ordeal happened before that program became a thing, which I think was this week. I dunno what's going on with Valve.

Ah, thanks for letting me know. Now, I would like to clarify what the 26 weeks community ban was for, and why you were testing the self-locking tool. That would help to add some context to what was going on.

In addition, did you consent the Russian friends that you banned?

And even if these statements were true, they always ignore one thing: Steam doesn't tell you if a game uses Steam DRM or is effectively DRM-free. Hell, games that use Denuvo can not disclose their usage of Denuvo. So if Steam doesn't tell me a game is DRM-free, I don't really care if a person on the internet or a well-built list of DRM-free games on Steam...say a game is DRM-free. There is nothing binding the game to be DRM-free today or tomorrow, and with the platform's auto-updating nature, I could end up with a DRM-free game being DRM'd.

I'm not lying about anything. I can store my gog games and play my old Retail games without any 3rd party client. I don't use origin, Steam, galaxy or any others. I just install the game and play. Without your steam account you can't access your games on webpage or client. If I understand the OPs problem they banned him from all access. Doesn't matter if you have downloaded a steam game.. you can't play it unless you crack it. Assuming you have it installed.. If it in a steam library that person is screwed. No lies..

I'm sure there are very old games that aren't tied to steam client that can be access without client.. Sure but if he or she doesn't have backups that person is still screwed.

No, you couldn't. He was warned to stop bothering support about his ban. He did not stop bothering support about his ban. They gave him a "final warning" and then, after that, an explanation that they were actually really serious and he should stop bothering him. What did he do? Sent them four messages right in a row.

When someone with the power to take away your toys says "We're not changing our mind, now leave us alone or we will take away your toys" and you don't leave them alone, it's only your own fault that you lose your toys.

Your attention to detail is deplorable. His community ban was 26 weeks not 26 months. He didn't hide what he had done but rather got a developer-issued ban which was then expanded by Valve mods, as a result of his excessive contact through ticket and email. All of this is clear in the link OP gave in the first post.

Yes, of course i did. See screenshot in the attachments. But with someone of them I've got a bad relationships later and probably I got reported to support and so on.

Additionally, I suggest anyone in this thread to "stalk" the web archive with my profile

April of 2017: web.archive.org/web/20170418213556/http://steamcommunity.com/id/Kaby
28 May of 2017 (Banned): web.archive.org/web/20170528190741/http://steamcommunity.com/id/Kaby/
2 July of 2017 (Unbanned by "self-locking" tool): web.archive.org/web/20170702233640/http://steamcommunity.com/id/Kaby

Full: web.archive.org/web/*/http://steamcommunity.com/id/Kaby

To be fair, I thought we were talking about the self-locking bug itself, not about the second-to-last ban.

Fair then, weeks it is. Such fine details slip through the cracks, and that's normal, definitely far enough from being called out as deplorable.

GOG Forum Engine is bugged with links

Better paste my profile url here: web.archive.org

steamcommunity.com/id/Kaby

If a person doesn't have backups to their GOG games, if they lose their account then they are screwed. It's no different than the games that don't require Steam. Just because there are fewer games there that don't need the client doesn't make their DRM-free use any less viable.

That's not a bug. It's a feature ;-)
GOG still believes that Rep means anything and users with less than 10 reputation cannot post links. Or something like that. It's supposed to prevent bots from spamming links to commercial/scamming sites. Of course there are ways around it, because this is GOG and nothing in our forum works as intended. ;-)