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hedwards: FWIW before I drop it, the term autist is pretty old according to Meriam Webster showing up in the early '20s. Not sure why it's not more widely known.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/autist
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SirPrimalform: Hmm, in that case perhaps it fell out of use along the lines of spastic, retard and mongol (in the context of someone with Down's syndrome).
Wouldn't surprise me, but unlike those other terms there hasn't really been any changes to the official term until very recently. It's only in the last couple years that autism was replaced with ASD which should really get it's own term, although I don't know what that should be.
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hedwards: Wouldn't surprise me, but unlike those other terms there hasn't really been any changes to the official term until very recently. It's only in the last couple years that autism was replaced with ASD which should really get it's own term, although I don't know what that should be.
ASD is a much broader diagnosis anyway and Autism as a diagnosis still exists (at least here in the UK). Of course because it's a much broader diagnosis, more people are diagnosed and you have the bloody anti-vaccine crowd going crazy.
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hedwards: Wouldn't surprise me, but unlike those other terms there hasn't really been any changes to the official term until very recently. It's only in the last couple years that autism was replaced with ASD which should really get it's own term, although I don't know what that should be.
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SirPrimalform: ASD is a much broader diagnosis anyway and Autism as a diagnosis still exists (at least here in the UK). Of course because it's a much broader diagnosis, more people are diagnosed and you have the bloody anti-vaccine crowd going crazy.
ASD is a broader category, but in the US we don't have anything narrower at this point. The previous options were eliminated when ASD was added.
No way in hell is "autistic" a slur in the U.S.
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StingingVelvet: No way in hell is "autistic" a slur in the U.S.
I think you've misread the discussion up to this point, no one said it was.
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hedwards: ASD is a broader category, but in the US we don't have anything narrower at this point. The previous options were eliminated when ASD was added.
That's interesting, I imagine it doesn't make too much difference in practice. Here at least we have EHCP (education and healthcare plans) which obviously detail the specifics and I imagine you have something similar in the US. After all, whether someone is labelled as having autism or ASD, it tells you very little about the person and what particular things they may or may not struggle with so the name is of relatively little importance.
Post edited May 28, 2018 by SirPrimalform
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hedwards: ASD is a broader category, but in the US we don't have anything narrower at this point. The previous options were eliminated when ASD was added.
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SirPrimalform: That's interesting, I imagine it doesn't make too much difference in practice. Here at least we have EHCP (education and healthcare plans) which obviously detail the specifics and I imagine you have something similar in the US. After all, whether someone is labelled as having autism or ASD, it tells you very little about the person and what particular things they may or may not struggle with so the name is of relatively little importance.
We use a different book of diagnoses in the US from what's used elsewhere, so there's going to be some variability in how things correlate and what terms are used.

And, I don't think we really have those things in the US. Education and healthcare are separate typically. And, even within education, each school doesn't necessarily offer the same services.
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SirPrimalform: No one here is questioning whether you got permabanned. We just mostly think you brought it on yourself.
By We, do you mean you, or is that we the Steam fanboy's who post here on every Steam related post. or am I part of the we, and that is what I think also?
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hedwards: We use a different book of diagnoses in the US from what's used elsewhere, so there's going to be some variability in how things correlate and what terms are used.

And, I don't think we really have those things in the US. Education and healthcare are separate typically. And, even within education, each school doesn't necessarily offer the same services.
The EHCP is an education specific thing really, the healthcare bit is because it also covers ongoing health conditions that may be relevant to the school/college. I was just giving it as an example of the fact that whether you call it autism or ASD it doesn't actually tell you much (if anything) about the person so it doesn't matter so much whether you have two possible diagnoses or one.
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olnorton: By We, do you mean you, or is that we the Steam fanboy's who post here on every Steam related post. or am I part of the we, and that is what I think also?
We as in most of the people posting on the thread. I think the OP brought it upon themselves and if you knew me at all you'd know I hate Steam.
Post edited May 28, 2018 by SirPrimalform
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hedwards: We use a different book of diagnoses in the US from what's used elsewhere, so there's going to be some variability in how things correlate and what terms are used.

And, I don't think we really have those things in the US. Education and healthcare are separate typically. And, even within education, each school doesn't necessarily offer the same services.
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SirPrimalform: The EHCP is an education specific thing really, the healthcare bit is because it also covers ongoing health conditions that may be relevant to the school/college. I was just giving it as an example of the fact that whether you call it autism or ASD it doesn't actually tell you much (if anything) about the person so it doesn't matter so much whether you have two possible diagnoses or one.
No arguments about that. You can easily fill a room with folks with ASD and find that no two of them are really alike.
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SirPrimalform: I think you've misread the discussion up to this point, no one said it was.
Neither is "autist," if it's ever a term used here (I haven't heard it before). I was using what I thought was the U.S. term to make a point. If I have somehow misread beyond that then I don't know, your conversation seemed pretty clear to me. *shrug*

As a sociology teacher I pretty much get memos tell me the new offensive words every year and nothing about autism has ever been mentioned.
OP you went too far and got what was coming. Sounds like you were intentionally messing with and teasing them. You could have retained access to all those games but you kept on pushing.
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SirPrimalform: Why would we need more proof? I don't think anyone disbelieves that they closed your account.
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KabyLake: Because I've got ban on the reddit website (r/Steam). Their moderators told me that I'm - a liar and ban reason was: "Your account is just a Community Banned. Its not a deactivated or deleted."
If it was just community banned, the account would've still existed, but you can't even login into it.

Also, those moderators at that subreddit are really ass. Why do we keep hailing Valve as some sort of savior again?
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PookaMustard: If it was just community banned, the account would've still existed, but you can't even login into it.
I'm guessing they only read half the story or the rest was in links that needed to be followed.
Also, those moderators at that subreddit are really ass. Why do we keep hailing Valve as some sort of savior again?
Is the second sentence supposed to be related to the first? I don't see what they have to do with eachother
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SirPrimalform: No one here is questioning whether you got permabanned. We just >>>mostly<<< think you brought it on yourself.
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olnorton: By We, do you mean you, or is that we the Steam fanboy's who post here on every Steam related post. or am I part of the we, and that is what I think also?
See the word, that I highlighted?
That's the word you missed in your first reading.
You know - the word which makes the "we" less all-encompassing.
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StingingVelvet: Neither is "autist," if it's ever a term used here (I haven't heard it before). I was using what I thought was the U.S. term to make a point. If I have somehow misread beyond that then I don't know, your conversation seemed pretty clear to me. *shrug*

As a sociology teacher I pretty much get memos tell me the new offensive words every year and nothing about autism has ever been mentioned.
Sure, you can argue that. It just didn't make any sense before as no one claimed the word autistic was a slur. There's a reason you haven't heard the term 'autist' and it's the reasons I've been arguing: that it's not currently correct terminology. I thought it was a neologism but it turns out it's more likely an old word that's fallen out of use. I don't like it as it seems to define autism as a person's sole defining trait and I suspect that's why it's fallen out of use.