Yes I figured, BUT that's with my aloted bandwidth. I only have a few days of that left. then it throttles at which point I'll check the speed and I might ask your advice again. It's not stone cold dead when that happens but it might kill the game.

The problem with satellite isn't typically speed, anymore, it's allotted bandwidth.

Magic isn't *that* bad. There are some bosses where the game lets you use it (the game is inconsistent about this), and one of them is generally considered one of the hardest bosses in the game.

Also, the gems needed to purchase spells aren't lost forever; when you cast the spell, you get the gems back and can use them to re-purchase the same spell or to purchase another spell.

Not true.
* Sealing monster lairs will sometimes heal you. (I believe this happens when sealing the lair frees someone in town.)
* You can carry an herb that, IIRC, will heal you if you die; once you use it, you can get another.
* There's a sword that will heal you when you kill an enemy.

The way I see it, for a game to be an RPG, you have to be removed from the action; hence how removed you are from the action is equivalent to how RPGish the game is, at least when we are talking about games that bear at least some resemblance to RPGs.

Just to be clear, it's not the bandwidth you have to worry about. Playing D3 single player can't use more than 10MB or so in an hour. It's how fast your connection is, i.e. how long the delay is communicating with the server. As in, 50 miliseconds, 300 or what. So ping in other words.

edit: nvm, found another source that indicated its closer to 50MB per hour :P

thank you for all the help from everyone. :D

I'm not going to run out and buy it yet but it's looking much more possible than it did an hour ago.

Just so you know, bandwidth *is* speed (well, it's directly proportional to it, depending on symbol bit density and error correction). Amount of data is throughput. And for most gamers, the problem is latency (round-trip time for data) on satellite. Bandwidth is properly measured in Hertz; throughput in Bytes; data rate in bits per second; latency in milliseconds. There's a TDMA vs FDMA joke in there but I think you have to be at least on week 40 of a deployment to find it funny

I know, you don't care. Nobody does. In all likelihood your ISP doesn't even use the correct units, and instead tells you things like "You have 250GB of bandwidth a month" which is no more sensible than saying your car has 30 mpg a day on weekends. Though of course, once your throughput exceeds a threshold, you will lose your bandwidth until the next billing cycle ;)

Just download the trial once your bandwidth resets and you can stop guessing.

There you go with your logical common sense answers! We don't need your kind in here! :P

Think I'll wait till my bandwidth is gone and THEN download the trial. It will take all night but I won't be wasting 17 Gb that my guests need. The busy seasons starts tomorrow.

"I'm sorry sir, I realize you are paying us good money and want to check your Facebook page, but I'm afraid I have demons to kill."

I did say practically worthless, not bad. As for that one hard boss, that's entirely the translator's fault. I never actively used magic, so I wasn't aware about the gem refund.

As for the thing about Soul Blazer, you are correct but the amounts regained are so paltry (aside from the revival herb) that it'd not be worth the effort to go chasing monsters and lairs. There's also a refill on level up, but that would rely on timing and survival.

Also, why wouldn't you call Gaia an action RPG?

Because I don't call any games action RPGs.

Aside from that, it really doesn't feel RPGish at all; the action consists of discrete levels without carry-over, and the growth system is really more like a typical Zelda game than what you'd expect in an RPG. (In particular, you can't spend extra time to boost your stats, nor can you control what stats increase.)

Also, there's no currency.

If you want to play Diablo 3 buy it on the PS3, none of this online crap at all then. At least that is my experience from the PS3 original d3 release. Might get the new one for the PS3 as that is supposed to be a lot better in many ways, which is good as d3 really needed it.

No problem. Got a PS3 you can give me? :P

Yeah, you're weird. =P It's not the worst game I've played, but as far as ARPGs go it is definitely one of the most generic and by-the-numbers games I can think of.

Oh, there's also the FATE series (Traitor Souls is still on my WL - I think I played the 2nd). It has some minor flaws , but I found it well made and quite fun on the whole.

Thinking about it, Divine Divinity and Sacred 1 are both really RPGs with ARPG combat style, but I wouldn't say combat is the driver of either game. Also much more common to be fighting 1-to-few enemies even outside of boss fights, vs. the more common ARPG style of enemyoverload of the genre more broadly.

Nox I would say is also a bit more in line with this. I imagined anyone who picked up Nox thinking it would be like Diablo would be pretty disappointed. Honestly, I think the thing that was the biggest turn-off for me with Nox was how the wear system was handled - seemed like my weapon kept breaking with not much I could do about it.

No, but there's also a somewhat apparent emphasis on leagues/races, player economy and evolving meta. Things that just wouldn't work offline. Though you can somewhat ignore most of these aspects by playing the standard league (it's permanent) and skipping the player economy, plus the game being completely F2P with nothing behind paywalls and no P2W aspects is fairly risk-free to try, I do understand your apprehension and if that's a dealbreaker, then it really might not be the game for you.

Though I do have to point out that - in my humble opinion - it is one of the greatest games ever made and completely ruined every other ARPG for me.

Get a PS3, they are real cheap and a fair few exclusive games which you can't emulate as yet - red dead redemption, god of war set, army of 2. And they are stick a disc in and play. Great console. Think how much you would save just not having blizzard auction house filth anywhere near your system.
For fate, I mentioned above. There are three games but they are pretty much the same game. Played one, you played them all. They are good fun, just a bit basic.