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UPDATE! I re installed windows 10 and the problem has gone away but for how long before it comes back lol. well lets find out but if anyone does know anything about this problem and it seems that a shit load of people on the web have this issue as well but no one knows the true cause of it.


when I shut down my pc from windows shut down option the Monitor goes blank immediately, showing no more programs running. However the computer remains on for quite a long time (guess 2~3 mins), Not sure what is going
on, but it shuts down normally but when the screen goes blank and looks like it is off it is still on.. for said 2 to 3 minutes then completely shuts off. and when I reset the pc it takes that long as well to reset and boot to desktop.

I am running windows 10 latest build

6700k
16gb ram
1080 sli
850watt psu
512gb ssd adata

So I am not sure if it's a failing ssd or something, I have all the power to run this machine no problem but I noticed this problem started a month ago. and if I use windows 10 built in factory reset for the os it still has the problem and the only way to fix this temporarily is to hard wipe the ssd and start with a fresh install of the os, then the problem comes back randomly not knowing when.

I am not sure if this is hardware of software related? does anyone have this experience with this kind of problem or is it a windows 10 latest creators update problem? it annoys the shit out of me and I am trying to find out what the hell it is.
Post edited June 07, 2017 by UnrealQuakie
run CPUID hw monitor and check the 12 volt rail voltage. If that is not steady around 12 volts or drops real low, you need a new PSU as you may fry everything inside. TBH I dunno if you have the watts for 1080 SLI
Dear canadian , windows ten is shit. Get windows seven ultimate , youll be fine.
I think this is how current windows works. It caches everything both memory pages and whole programs as well as services/daemons. I guess this is what it takes to "make an elephant fly".

Android also does some form of "background application caching", but (like most linuxen) tries to avoid using swap partition, where NT kernel is made to swap-out as much as possible.

If you need to check SSD for health, this was discussed here, basically you want to minimize write operations and offload those small locks/changes to RAM, so they are written back as one operation.

You might want to find an application that tracks SSD TB-written value, as well as shows the UBERs - which are critical indicators of SSD wear out. If those are high or UBERs are plenty - replace the disk.

Also, don't defragment an SSD (its random access storage, no benefits), avoid random write tests and disk utilities that try to write many times in the same blocks and don't panic should bad blocks show-up in SMART if they are few - unlike HDD, SSD has no flying broke-away particles or surface demagnetization problem.

Hope this helps a bit.
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eumerius: Dear canadian , windows ten is shit. Get windows seven ultimate , youll be fine.
Linux works well too. :P
Post edited June 06, 2017 by Lin545
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Lin545: I think this is how current windows works. It caches everything both memory pages and whole programs as well as services/daemons. I guess this is what it takes to "make an elephant fly".

Android also does some form of "background application caching", but (like most linuxen) tries to avoid using swap partition, where NT kernel is made to swap-out as much as possible.

If you need to check SSD for health, this was discussed here, basically you want to minimize write operations and offload those small locks/changes to RAM, so they are written back as one operation.

You might want to find an application that tracks SSD TB-written value, as well as shows the UBERs - which are critical indicators of SSD wear out. If those are high or UBERs are plenty - replace the disk.

Also, don't defragment an SSD (its random access storage, no benefits), avoid random write tests and disk utilities that try to write many times in the same blocks and don't panic should bad blocks show-up in SMART if they are few - unlike HDD, SSD has no flying broke-away particles or surface demagnetization problem.

Hope this helps a bit.
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eumerius: Dear canadian , windows ten is shit. Get windows seven ultimate , youll be fine.
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Lin545: Linux works well too. :P
This, if I ever had to stop using win 7 I'd just go back with linux full force.
Maybe it's the "Fast Startup" (crappy) feature?
Try using SHIFT+shut down menu and see what happens.
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wizisi2k: run CPUID hw monitor and check the 12 volt rail voltage. If that is not steady around 12 volts or drops real low, you need a new PSU as you may fry everything inside. TBH I dunno if you have the watts for 1080 SLI
Using a corsair 860I platinum psu so not sure but it only draws around 500 max from wall when doing intense shit. my whole pc seems fine when doing everything it's just when I shut it down and restart it. but If I do a fresh wipe on the drive and re install windows this problem will go away

but comes again at a random time. it's an odd one tbh

The ssd is ADATA SP900 512gb model.
Post edited June 06, 2017 by UnrealQuakie
here is a picture of the volts and everything.
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Creator's update caused me some other problems but my laptop still shuts down quickly. Not sure I'd blame that specifically unless the update is messing with some other bit of software.

Maybe before shutting down, take a look in Task Manager to see what is running. Could be that one particular bit of software is hanging things up.
I wouldn't be surprised if your problem is caused by Microsoft, in their attempt to force Win 10 users to also upgrade to the new Kabi processors. I see you have the older Skylake processor. But who know, this is just a biased assumption.
Post edited June 06, 2017 by MadalinStroe
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UnrealQuakie: when I shut down my pc from windows shut down option the Monitor goes blank immediately, showing no more programs running. However the computer remains on for quite a long time (guess 2~3 mins), Not sure what is going on,...
Are you running an external drive when you're shutting down?
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UnrealQuakie: when I shut down my pc from windows shut down option the Monitor goes blank immediately, showing no more programs running. However the computer remains on for quite a long time (guess 2~3 mins), Not sure what is going on,...
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richlind33: Are you running an external drive when you're shutting down?
Nope I always turn it off when done with any data transfer or watching my ripped movies.

I have a vantec external HDD storage with 2 seagate red drives for movies and pictures.
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MadalinStroe: I wouldn't be surprised if your problem is caused by Microsoft, in their attempt to force Win 10 users to also upgrade to the new Kabi processors. I see you have the older Skylake processor. But who know, this is just a biased assumption.
using a 6700k at 4.5 ghz with the gigabyte gaming 7 z170 motherboard I know it's still fairly a pretty damn powerful cpu and such with features but I just did a fresh install of windows and so far the problem is gone... very odd though
Post edited June 07, 2017 by UnrealQuakie
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UnrealQuakie: using a 6700k at 4.5 ghz with the gigabyte gaming 7 z170 motherboard I know it's still fairly a pretty damn powerful cpu and such with features but I just did a fresh install of windows and so far the problem is gone... very odd though
I've got the 6600k, Gigabyte Gaming 6 board, GTX 1070, and the OS is on a Samsung EVO 850 SSD. Mine shuts down and starts up in seconds, and never had the issue you're describing. So probably not your hardware setup, as yours is so similar to mine (other than you've got the more high-end parts... :P ) Don't know much about adata SSDs. Are they reliable? That seems about the only real difference between your rig and mine, as far as brands go.
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UnrealQuakie: using a 6700k at 4.5 ghz with the gigabyte gaming 7 z170 motherboard I know it's still fairly a pretty damn powerful cpu and such with features but I just did a fresh install of windows and so far the problem is gone... very odd though
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GR00T: I've got the 6600k, Gigabyte Gaming 6 board, GTX 1070, and the OS is on a Samsung EVO 850 SSD. Mine shuts down and starts up in seconds, and never had the issue you're describing. So probably not your hardware setup, as yours is so similar to mine (other than you've got the more high-end parts... :P ) Don't know much about adata SSDs. Are they reliable? That seems about the only real difference between your rig and mine, as far as brands go.
Adata is pretty solid I know for a fact I had a friend at school re write windows on one of there ssd's 500+ times and it's still working with 91% life left, And I been using this one since 2012 and it's been great, the one problem is I need better cooling on cpu cause I hit 70C a lot when doing heavy workloads with the corsair h80i v2 at 4.5ghz lol

but yeah adata man they are great, but I might head to the samsung s960 pro m.2 sata with those 3.000 read and 2100 write. I wonder if installing and other things will see a benefit or is it just a load of shit with those ssd's? I don't know anyone with one.
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MadalinStroe: I wouldn't be surprised if your problem is caused by Microsoft, in their attempt to force Win 10 users to also upgrade to the new Kabi processors. I see you have the older Skylake processor. But who know, this is just a biased assumption.
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UnrealQuakie: using a 6700k at 4.5 ghz with the gigabyte gaming 7 z170 motherboard I know it's still fairly a pretty damn powerful cpu and such with features but I just did a fresh install of windows and so far the problem is gone... very odd though
Just for my peace of mind, I didn't mean to imply that your processor is old, the difference between equivalent Skylake and Kaby processors is only about 5%, and in games that difference would be utterly irrelevant, which is why I find what Microsoft is doing even more despicable.

Anyway, congratulations on fixing your problem. When in doubt reinstall Windows.