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Posted June 06, 2017
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Telika: snip
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synfresh: To many people on here, specifically those who have been here a long time, they view (or once did) GoG as some sort of white knight of gaming that was going to rescue the masses from the evil that is known as Steam. A crusader which stood by DRM-Free principles in the face of the giant know as Valve and come out winning in the end. To a large part they still are this, but they have also evolved in a sense because the industry demands it. DRM-Free is a noble cause but I've always said if you put yourself on an island and shout from the rooftops that the big boy on the block is so bad, nobody is going to listen because they probably can't even hear you in the first place. GoG has found that you can't simply sell 'DRM-Free' and expect the masses to simply just show up. You need to have additional selling points to attract users to your store and yes, that includes things like a client (Galaxy) and connectivity like Connect.

It's not GoG turning their back on their faithful users, it's trying to serve those same users while still trying to be relevant in an industry that is opposite of their core business model.
Perhaps some things are meant to be niche, especially when it comes to what makes them relevant at all in the first place.
Posted June 06, 2017
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synfresh: To many people on here, specifically those who have been here a long time, they view (or once did) GoG as some sort of white knight of gaming that was going to rescue the masses from the evil that is known as Steam. A crusader which stood by DRM-Free principles in the face of the giant know as Valve and come out winning in the end. To a large part they still are this, but they have also evolved in a sense because the industry demands it. DRM-Free is a noble cause but I've always said if you put yourself on an island and shout from the rooftops that the big boy on the block is so bad, nobody is going to listen because they probably can't even hear you in the first place. GoG has found that you can't simply sell 'DRM-Free' and expect the masses to simply just show up. You need to have additional selling points to attract users to your store and yes, that includes things like a client (Galaxy) and connectivity like Connect.

It's not GoG turning their back on their faithful users, it's trying to serve those same users while still trying to be relevant in an industry that is opposite of their core business model.
Bingo we have a winner. Wasn't going to get involved in this thread, pretty sick of arguing over this stuff... but voice of reason right here.
Posted June 06, 2017
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Agreed wholeheartedly.
Posted June 06, 2017
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synfresh: It's not GoG turning their back on their faithful users, it's trying to serve those same users while still trying to be relevant in an industry that is opposite of their core business model.
This, this, this.
Posted June 06, 2017
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Either you have principles, or you don't. GOG have turned their back on one after the other. The conclusion is unfortunately rather obvious.

They can hide behind whatever excuse they put forward this week, but to some of us actions speak louder than words.
Posted June 06, 2017
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UnrealDelusion: you click the icon above your installed games, choose exit and galaxy closes without running in the background.
Seriously just stop... plenty of people have good reasons and arguements.

You are just complaining about something which isn't there but you don't want to admit you were wrong.
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Primo_Victoria: You're either playing thick or it's not an act.
The irony.
Posted June 06, 2017
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Pangaea666: Either you have principles, or you don't. GOG have turned their back on one after the other. The conclusion is unfortunately rather obvious.

They can hide behind whatever excuse they put forward this week, but to some of us actions speak louder than words.
Last I checked you don't need to run the client to play the games, even recent ones.
Yeah, regional prices suck, but that's publishers being greedy idiots and GOG usually makes up for it with some wallet money, gotta have the latest hottest triple A or at least some of them to get market share.

I ended up mostly using the client to install games because it's more convenient but I never use it to run the games and of course I dsiabled all the options to make it run and startup, some times I don't touch it for weeks even if I play GOG games all the time, and yes, you may close the client by right-clicking on the icon in the startup bar, and you can set it to close completely without doing that.

Me? I could live with not having a client (I know I did for a long while), but people like my brothers probably prefer just launch the client and install and play from there. And I suspect many old timers prefer it too, hell I ran into many "old timers" that prefer to play old spacesims with a gamepad instead of getting a cheap Logitech from Amazon.
Post edited June 06, 2017 by Det_Bullock
Posted June 06, 2017
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0Grapher: My first thought when I saw these new releases was: They must have planned to release incredibly popular games after making a very controversial move so as to appease many that might have left.
GOG always does this, but it's the reverse - they dish out announcements of controversial decisions shortly before they release titles that are in high demand.



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synfresh: [...] while still trying to be relevant in an industry that is opposite of their core business model.
The blurb in "The GOG.com Mentality" isn't inline with their stated "GOG.com mission statement" and "GOG.com business objectives" in their Strategy. Unless that's also part of keeping grandpa happy. Until they don't need him anymore.



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Pangaea666: Either you have principles, or you don't. GOG have turned their back on one after the other. The conclusion is unfortunately rather obvious.

They can hide behind whatever excuse they put forward this week, but to some of us actions speak louder than words.
They haven't turned their back on any principles for the simple reason that they never really were their principles. They were just convenient mottos they were smart enough to come up with to appeal to a crucial enough mass to kick them off and carry them for a long time. And the cynic in me ponders that, as the userbase changes, they will no longer "cater" to that mass when the numbers say it's safe to do so.
Post edited June 06, 2017 by HypersomniacLive
Posted June 06, 2017
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Onglar: I hope GOG stays true to their values. Being DRM free is the ONLY thing that makes it what it is, but it's a big one. A really big one. And I love GOG for it, much more so than Steam.
Nonsense. Many people, including myself, will tell you its always been about "Good Old Games". This is the problem with these discussions, people assume they understand something they have no insight into,. We cant possibly hope to know what GOG is thinking beyond what they inform the public. The rest is pure conjecture, much like stating its "ONLY" about DRM.
Posted June 06, 2017
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Onglar: I hope GOG stays true to their values. Being DRM free is the ONLY thing that makes it what it is, but it's a big one. A really big one. And I love GOG for it, much more so than Steam.
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muttly13: Nonsense. Many people, including myself, will tell you its always been about "Good Old Games". This is the problem with these discussions, people assume they understand something they have no insight into,. We cant possibly hope to know what GOG is thinking beyond what they inform the public. The rest is pure conjecture, much like stating its "ONLY" about DRM.
What i mean is that GOG being DRM free is the only reason ive bought games from here, steam does everything else.
Posted June 06, 2017
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Onglar: I hope GOG stays true to their values. Being DRM free is the ONLY thing that makes it what it is, but it's a big one. A really big one. And I love GOG for it, much more so than Steam.
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muttly13: Nonsense. Many people, including myself, will tell you its always been about "Good Old Games". This is the problem with these discussions, people assume they understand something they have no insight into,. We cant possibly hope to know what GOG is thinking beyond what they inform the public. The rest is pure conjecture, much like stating its "ONLY" about DRM.
Well, Steam has acknowledged a while ago that there is a market for good old games and have some titles now that GOG hasn't (although GOG also has some they miss), so the DRM-free thing is the only thing that keeps them going since then.

Yeah, it was mostly (not only!) about the old games in the beginning, but that has changed years ago.
Posted June 06, 2017
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When I left Steam 3 years ago, I tried to see what I could take with me.
1 game (octodad) was DRM free, so I zipped up the install directory
Every thing else would not work in ANY WAY without Steam. So I used cracks and Smart Steam Emulator to save what I could.


If I left GoG, I could download all my installers and they'd all work.

The only thing I can't take with me is the services GoG provide, such as hosted multiplayer.

If a game lacks LAN play, its not GoG's fault for giving the developers the tools for Hosted services, its the developers Fault for not including LAN.

GoG is not turning into Steam
Posted June 06, 2017
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mechmouse: When I left Steam 3 years ago, I tried to see what I could take with me.
1 game (octodad) was DRM free, so I zipped up the install directory
Every thing else would not work in ANY WAY without Steam. So I used cracks and Smart Steam Emulator to save what I could.

If I left GoG, I could download all my installers and they'd all work.

The only thing I can't take with me is the services GoG provide, such as hosted multiplayer.

If a game lacks LAN play, its not GoG's fault for giving the developers the tools for Hosted services, its the developers Fault for not including LAN.

GoG is not turning into Steam
I just want access to my offline installers, i can understand developers using galaxy as a way of routing connections for multiplayer or trying to appeal to people who WANTS something like that. But the second they start demanding i use galaxy to play Fallout New Vegas and Oblivion and start dropping support for the installers im gonna be a sad sad dude
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Posted June 06, 2017
Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yes, apparently so. At least in some aspects.
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mechmouse: If a game lacks LAN play, its not GoG's fault for giving the developers the tools for Hosted services, its the developers Fault for not including LAN.
This I *absolutely* disagree with.

If GOG's going to be offering developers convenient 'pre-made' multiplayer matchmaking to developers I *am* going to fault GOG for not including a convenient LAN/Direct connect option because the likelyhood of a developer putting extra Dev effort into multiplayer after picking up a pre-made matchmaking system is extremely low, and you're not going to tell me GOG isn't aware of that.

It's obviously not *entirely* their fault, since the dev opts to use it, but GOG is certainly making it easier to ignore for them by offering what they have.
Post edited June 06, 2017 by Pheace
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