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rtcvb32: Maybe they should make it a law. That children under 18 can't own/play on tablets/computers/gaming consoles. That way they actually develop skills and get physically involved before becoming a couch potato...
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GameRager: That shifts the responsibility onto the gov't and not the parent, and is also overkill. Parents just need to check in on their kids every so often, monitor their pc usage/phone usage somewhat, and generally give a damn about their kids.
True.... oooorrrr.... not allow them to have them and since kids can't earn hardly any money they can't afford these $500 game systems and $60 games...

I suppose 'law' is the wrong word, maybe 'strong suggestion'. computers and technology are tools, but when your childhood i spent on a Xbox 360 & kids walk around with smart phones and can't use pencils because they don't develop the muscles needed... that's just sad.

If you want to play games all day, do it after you're out of the house.

I know someone who's son spends too much time playing and she's threatening to take away his game system. He sounds like he's so lazy and bored and does less than the minimum.

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Crosmando: You gotta love the audacity of boomers who spent their lives in front of TV lecturing kids about playing video games. How about you just let them do what they enjoy?
Did i say make it illegal?

Besides as everyone knows, kids will prefer to play games over doing work or actually doing their school work. Kids have two jobs. First, keep their room clean, second is to learn the basic skills for when they are on their own. Video games involved they are encouraged to do neither.

But as there's nothing i can do about it, they will reap what they sew i suppose. And for some, it's no education, heart attacks at 17, and having a totally warped view of the world seeing everything from WoW and Overwatch and not knowing how to iron a pair of pants or cook an egg.
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rtcvb32: True.... oooorrrr.... not allow them to have them and since kids can't earn hardly any money they can't afford these $500 game systems and $60 games...

I suppose 'law' is the wrong word, maybe 'strong suggestion'. computers and technology are tools, but when your childhood i spent on a Xbox 360 & kids walk around with smart phones and can't use pencils because they don't develop the muscles needed... that's just sad.
I still think a limit is better and not flat out denial of such things, but I see the point you are trying to make.

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rtcvb32: If you want to play games all day, do it after you're out of the house.
You mean just physical activity i.e. things like sports, or gaming out of the house? I assume the former?

I know someone who's son spends too much time playing and she's threatening to take away his game system. He sounds like he's so lazy and bored and does less than the minimum.

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rtcvb32: Besides as everyone knows, kids will prefer to play games over doing work or actually doing their school work. Kids have two jobs. First, keep their room clean, second is to learn the basic skills for when they are on their own. Video games involved they are encouraged to do neither.

But as there's nothing i can do about it, they will reap what they sew i suppose. And for some, it's no education, heart attacks at 17, and having a totally warped view of the world seeing everything from WoW and Overwatch and not knowing how to iron a pair of pants or cook an egg.
Many kids these days are getting more lazy and don't know how to do some basic, things, and it's true that is not good overall.
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Post edited November 08, 2019 by GameRager
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rtcvb32: If you want to play games all day, do it after you're out of the house.
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GameRager: You mean just physical activity i.e. things like sports, or gaming out of the house? I assume the former?
I'm pretty sure he means: do it after you're no longer dependent on your parents. (moving out of the parents' house; in the past, young people often did that after they finished their studies, or when they got married)
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teceem: I'm pretty sure he means: do it after you're no longer dependent on your parents. (moving out of the parents' house; in the past, young people often did that after they finished their studies, or when they got married)
Thanks for that...and yeah people did do that a ton, but the economy is at a point now where for many that is sadly impossible.

Also if he is saying kids shouldn't play games in earnest until they leave the home.....I dunno what to say to that. :\
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GameRager: Thanks for that...and yeah people did do that a ton, but the economy is at a point now where for many that is sadly impossible.
Sure it is (try to remember that many people here don't live in the same country as you... or have the same expectations).

My first place was the size of a bathroom, and I was happy being 'independent'.
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teceem: Sure it is (try to remember that many people here don't live in the same country as you... or have the same expectations).

My first place was the size of a bathroom, and I was happy being 'independent'.
I meant in the US...sorry for not mentioning that. Also here it's nearly impossible to get a place of one's own that is livable(I.e. not a closet basically) for cheap, and you also have to add in utilities/food/etc.

In such cases a good number would rather pay their parents some money for expenses and live with them.
Post edited November 09, 2019 by GameRager
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richlind33: Addiction is the problem, here, and gaming *can* be addictive.
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rtcvb32: Addiction, is merely a bandaid to deal with issues. But sometimes there's no way out. That's usually where going to the bottom of a bottle is the only recourse, killing time hoping things aren't so bad tomorrow.
That is what precedes addiction. Addiction is when it reaches the point that we are *habitually* self-destructive.

Whatever we do most frequently becomes the easiest thing for us to do. If this thing happens to be something detrimental, we are in the process of destroying ourself. The problem is that our "thing" is giving us some sort of a quick "fix" that we mistakenly perceive to be a need, thus we fall inot the trap of rationalizing our behavior and denying that we have a problem. From there we'll slowly decend into madness and eventually die, unless someone or something intervenes.
Post edited November 09, 2019 by richlind33
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richlind33: Whatever we do most frequently becomes the easiest thing for us to do. If this thing happens to be something detrimental, we are in the process of destroying ourselves. The problem is that our "thing" is giving us some sort of a quick "fix" that we mistakenly perceive to be a need, thus we fall into the trap of rationalizing our behavior and denying that we have a problem. From there we'll slowly descend into madness and eventually die, unless someone or something intervenes.
This is all true and a very good post, but(and this will sound like me being a debbie downer, but....) we all die and sometimes some addictions provide a fun distraction from an otherwise crap life while at the same time not being that detrimental to our well being(physically).
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rtcvb32: Maybe they should make it a law. That children under 18 can't own/play on tablets/computers/gaming consoles. That way they actually develop skills and get physically involved before becoming a couch potato...
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Crosmando: You gotta love the audacity of boomers who spent their lives in front of TV lecturing kids about playing video games. How about you just let them do what they enjoy?
Hypocrisy is intergenerational, bruh. o.O
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richlind33: Whatever we do most frequently becomes the easiest thing for us to do. If this thing happens to be something detrimental, we are in the process of destroying ourselves. The problem is that our "thing" is giving us some sort of a quick "fix" that we mistakenly perceive to be a need, thus we fall into the trap of rationalizing our behavior and denying that we have a problem. From there we'll slowly descend into madness and eventually die, unless someone or something intervenes.
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GameRager: This is all true and a very good post, but(and this will sound like me being a debbie downer, but....) we all die and sometimes some addictions provide a fun distraction from an otherwise crap life while at the same time not being that detrimental to our well being(physically).
That you posted this tells me you're not altogether sure that you're right. One of the most common mistakes people make is failing to allow for the unknown -- which vastly outweighs the infinitesimal mote that constitutes human knowledge. What we are experiencing now is subject to change -- always. Learn to welcome this and embrace it and you will know success in your life!
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richlind33: That you posted this tells me you're not altogether sure that you're right.
All I am mostly certain of is that I know nothing 100% for certain.

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richlind33: One of the most common mistakes people make is failing to allow for the unknown -- which vastly outweighs the infinitesimal mote that constitutes human knowledge. What we are experiencing now is subject to change -- always. Learn to welcome this and embrace it and you will know success in your life!
I do try to as much as possible.