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MadyNora: Nope.
I belive that if people are given the chance to be super-violent in a videogame, it will actually make them less violent in real life, since they are able to fulfill their desires in a videogame. (+ they spend their time playing vidogames instead of vandalising the town)

The problem can only emerge, if some kid can not take games and reality apart, and starts "playing" in real life too. But imo that should be blamed on parents who don't parent, and not on the game :P
Yeah, it's better to play hatred, than the real life version of it. ;)
Yes, yes it is. Because you're just wasting time, when you could be killing real people instead.

Do your part and help fight overpopulation. For your country!
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awalterj: Every time you sanitize your hands, you're killing off more real lives (bacteria) than you ever virtually killed in all your games combined.
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gamesfreak64: true but these are not really considered intelligent life forms so maybe that makes it less bad.
A point you'll probably reconsider when aliens from outer space come and wipe us out like bacteria, after all we're likely not intelligent life forms in their opinion.
I'm not talking about 1950s dumb ass aliens who fly across the galaxy only to crash land near a random hillbilly town because they were assembling their anal probe equipment instead of keeping an eye on the flight instruments. I'm talking about the smart ones.
Yeah, it's definitely wrong...

*pulls out chainsaw and goes on chainsawing rampage in GTA: VC*
Of course not! What kind of dilemma is this, anyway? Directly quoted from Paxton Fettel, F.E.A.R. series...

"He deserved to die. They ALL deserve to die!"!
"Wrong" - no

I've mentioned it before but I can't play games that replicate actual conflicts. It's not wrong but it does make me uncomfortable. It's not a religious thing and it's not for me to preach what games are acceptable.
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Gerin: I only have a problem with violence in games when people get their fun by harming innocents. That can include npc pixel people or animals because it's just sick and evil. It especially includes real people in multiplayer games if they are minding their own business, crafting, questing, whatever. I wouldn't use the label of "sin" but it sure is a bad psychological path to tread.
Does this point include Carmageddon ?
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tinyE: I've never been lied to, screwed over, or put down by an animal.
You've never had a cat ?
Post edited March 25, 2015 by Telika
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Gerin: I only have a problem with violence in games when people get their fun by harming innocents. That can include npc pixel people or animals because it's just sick and evil. It especially includes real people in multiplayer games if they are minding their own business, crafting, questing, whatever. I wouldn't use the label of "sin" but it sure is a bad psychological path to tread.
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Telika: Does this point include Carmageddon ?
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tinyE: I've never been lied to, screwed over, or put down by an animal.
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Telika: You've never had a cat ?
Always had a cat, and let me tell you, no animal (or for that matter human) has ever been more up front about treating you like shit than a cat. :P He doesn't pull any punches, he looks at me every morning and says, "Fuck you. Now get my food!"
Post edited March 25, 2015 by tinyE
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MadyNora: Nope.
I belive that if people are given the chance to be super-violent in a videogame, it will actually make them less violent in real life, since they are able to fulfill their desires in a videogame. (+ they spend their time playing vidogames instead of vandalising the town)
I don't really buy into that. IMO games are just as unlikely to prevent real life violence as they are to cause it.


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MadyNora: The problem can only emerge, if some kid can not take games and reality apart, and starts "playing" in real life too. But imo that should be blamed on parents who don't parent, and not on the game :P
I fear that most of the kids who do sick stuff like that are well aware of the difference between games and reality and are not really playing, which is one of the reasons why games are unfit to keep their aggression and hatred at bay.
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Telika: Does this point include Carmageddon ?

You've never had a cat ?
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tinyE: Always had a cat, and let me tell you, no animal (or for that matter human) has ever been more up front about treating you like shit than a cat. :P He doesn't pull any punches, he looks at me every morning and says, "Fuck you. Now get my food!"
That's only as long as you allow yourself to get bullied by brute force. Once this doesn't work anymore, you enter the realm of the "meow i am facing that door because i totally want to get out so get your ass out of my favorite chair and do some steps towards me" strategies.
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Trilarion: Yes, surely it can be. Just imagine "Concentration Camp Simulator" and you will immediately agree that killing in a game can be extremely wrong and a sin.
I disagree. I think that playing a game like this, or Hatred, tells something about the person playing, but the act of playing the game hurts no one. If that's a person's way to release his hatred or desire for violence in a harmless way, then it can be a good thing.
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tinyE: I once virtually killed a man just to virtually watch him virtually die.
Let me guess, you virtually shot him in virtual Reno?
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ET3D: I disagree. I think that playing a game like this, or Hatred, tells something about the person playing, but the act of playing the game hurts no one. If that's a person's way to release his hatred or desire for violence in a harmless way, then it can be a good thing.
I guess I disagree with your disagreement here because I cannot image that one can release his hatred or desire in a harmless way that way, not the usual sane person at least.
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Randalator: Yes.

That's why it took me 17 years to beat Doom. That game is hard when you're not killing...
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Rusty_Gunn: Question: how did get past the Hellknights at the end of episode 1?
We sat down, had a long constructive talk sharing our feelings...then we hugged.
Nope, not wrong, they are just pixels. A sin? Probably many religions in which it would be a sin, who cares? Ok believers probably care.

Although start a thread with "is it wrong to rape and torture" in a videogame and watch most of the people here turn into instant hypocrites.