Not much AMD can do if 3rd party vendors refuse to have ECC support on their motherboards, the CPU itself supports it and that is all that AMD can guarantee. Presumably the Naples (Ryzen for servers/ workstations) motherboards will have ECC support though, they're the direct competitors to Xeon and it would be extremely odd- and probably fatal, market wise- if they didn't.

Think I will very likely end up getting a plain 1700, though I'll wait for 1600/x to see how they turn out and if the foibles with the r7s get ironed out. 7700k is the better option for games but it will only get worse relatively speaking (plus its socket is likely dead pretty soon), and an equivalent Broadwell-E would be near twice the cost and almost certainly is on a dead socket. Since I want something that will last it's a pretty easy choice.

IIRC you can still put in a W7 key when installing W10, and it will work- the only thing that doesn't any more is the automatic upgrade path. Which a lot of people absolutely hated anyway.

Ah, I learn something new every day ;)

I know you can claim to have bad eye sight or anything that means you need the OS disability things in built & still get it free too.

The assistive tech method works as well. For a clean install on a new computer the other is easier, since it's pretty much exactly what you'd have to do anyway.

The other method is detailed here.

An unexpected Ryzen makes an appearance...

http://www.eteknix.com/alien-covenants-android-powered-amd-ryzen-radeon/

Not bad! :D

So here I am on Ryzen R7 1700x. :-D

Everything worked flawless. Even Windows booted up from the scratch after the update, but then revoked my license because of the hardware change and I could not reactivate it for unknown reasons. So I spent this day with reinitiating Windows 10 and getting back its activation, which I am finally done with now.

Sad thing is, my new DDR4 3200 MHz memory only works at 2166 MHz, just as I feared. Anything above this does not even start BIOS bootup. Well I hope they improve this with later BIOS updates.

Performance increase from my old Phenom2 X955 is awesome though, even without running at faster RAM speeds and even with the obvious multi thread problems Windows 10 seems to have. So far everything I threw at it worked out max! Forza 6: Apex, GTA5, Witcher 3, No Man's Sky, Galactic Civ 3, Transport Fever, FIFA17 ... it's simply fantastic.

So if you have any first hand questions on the performance of Ryzen and my setup, feel free to ask me.

I'd read about win10 screwing up the SMT stuff. With any luck they'll finally get that fixed for you.
It also seems to run even better in win7 because of that hehe.

I know the memory thing is a pest. Hopefully new BIOS drivers will resolve that.

Curious. Are you a graphics sort?
Wondering how well it does in things like Lightwave, Maya, Photoshop, Terragen etc.

I'm going to get some pennies set aside for when things are resolved, but no doubt going the dual boot win7/Linux route.

Other than that, good to see it's doing its stuff. Oh, what gfx card did you pair it with?
The Obama piccie made me chuckle. :D

The whole build is listed a few pages back. It's running with an AMD Radeon Fury Nano from my former build. At least the Fury is finally getting fed with data fast enough so it can bring its whole performance on the street.

Unfortunately I am not much into graphic editing. The only thing I use is Paint.net which is not so demanding I would say. That being said, I won't have much use for an 8/16-thread CPU as long as the games do not support it. It is more a future investment, and the old AM2+ mainboard and CPU needed an urgent replacement, since they they had a minor burn out last year. And I did not really like Intel, so I waited for AMD to release their new generation. UnderGOG ... I mean underdog ftw! ;-)

Ah nice card.

Just found this, shows how win10 is limiting AMD CPUs at the minute, when win7 beats it by a fair bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DE83lMVio

That framerate though, sheesh! ;)

May sound mad, but Im waiting here for autumn, when they will bring mobile APUs.
No need to joke about portable toasters - Im already own laptop with nvidia gpu and know, what trully portable toaster is.

Talkin about reasons - I just hope, that their integrated gpu will work better, than Intel HD ones. I know, that chances are low, but still - there are not much choices, if you wanna portable station with GPU, able to run atleast 2D indies. Coz intel can barelly play 1080p videos (no need to write about Iris Pro, as there are almost no machines with it, and they are overpriced as hell), and OPTIMUS IS JUST TERRIBLE, TRUST ME

Chessbase has a new article, dedicated to AMD Ryzen.

These new processors are best choice for chess analysis, it seems.
Only i7-6950X (Intel's recommened price: $1723.00 - $1743.00) beats them.

When it comes to craptops...ahem, I meant laptops, I've never had one. I like a tower so I can get in & mess about with ease.

If their latest gfx cards are anything to go by, should be okay, but I've no idea how things convert from tower version to laptop versions.

All I can say is, the RX480 is a beast for normal pcs ;)

This CPU looks very promising. By next year, I think I'll have to replace my gaminc PC and build a new one, and this CPU is looking like an interesting candidate for my next build. Hopefully the problems with Win10 will be fixed by then, or I'll have to keep using my favorite OS: Win7... (:P)

Looks like there was a discrepancy in the temp' readings.

Also...

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2129227-AMD-Zen-processors-Are-you-interested?p=44993041&viewfull=1#post44993041

"After a long couple of days of testing, I can make the following statements with extreme confidence:

Relative Performance:

Ryzen has 11% higher IPC than Sandy Bridge
Ryzen has a whopping 28% higher multi-threaded performance per clock than Sandy Bridge
Ryzen has 52.5% higher IPC than Excavator
Ryzen has a gargantuan 82.05% higher multi-threaded performance per clock than Excavator

Memory Sensitivity:

Ryzen has some memory latency issues... but they only rarely impact application performance.
Multi-threading performance is most sensitive to memory frequency
Cinebench is actually memory sensitive on Ryzen!!! Not much, but it's there!

Stability:

In my days of testing, I've not had one application crash.
Ryzen seems to have built-in safe-guards that may be hiding true over-clocking potential.

Curios:

Ryzen employs a self-learning and correction system... it makes the system seem like it has entered an endless boot loop. It follows an exacting pattern: Five full power cycles, two warm reboots, a partial boot, then a normal boot.
Memory compatibility issues seem to be almost completely related to not being able to select 2T command rate.
Performance seems to have positive scaling with frequency in some scenarios - mean 5% clock speed brings 7% performance increase. I am trying to track down if this is an aberration or if this is due to time-based latencies.

I will be testing clock scaling tomorrow as well as verifying a couple of these numbers. I will also work on getting my results online here."

Plus more.

Meanwhile I'm *still* waiting for the friggin motherboard. All the other parts were in stock since weeks ago. Sigh.