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fishbaits: Remember the debacle over the RX480 4gb versions having 8gb that you could unlock?

AMD's done it again, sort of.

The RX580s are altered (slightly) RX480s.
Someone's flashed their RX480 to an RX580 :D
Considering that 480s already had potential issues with drawing too much power through the PCIe slot I cannot see that being a good idea since the 580's higher clocked default settings are designed with their more beefy additional connector in mind. Certainly doesn't seem worth it for a 10% (if that) increase since there'd be a risk of taking out both video card and motherboard.

Not sure that getting a free 4GB of RAM on your card qualifies as a debacle- it's a big advantage for the purchaser. It's certainly a better approach than nVidia's 3.5GB 970 mess.
Oooohhh! Thank you very much for solving this old mystery for me. :-)
Today a new chipset driver version was released solving the problem of the Energy Settings on "balanced" when the Ryzen CPU was not correctly (or too slow) switching power states on Windows 10. Up to 20% performance increased compared to the old "balanced" setting, but overall no difference of course compared to "maximum power" setting.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset?os=Windows+10+-+64
Just finished buiding my rig.

R7 1700X
32 GB RAM
Asrock AB350 Gaming K4
Samsung 960 EVO M2 SSD
Samsung 850 EVO SATA SSD
Seagate Barracuda 4TB
Radeon RX480 8GB

The system is configured as a dual boot Kubuntu 17.04 & Windows 7 Pro 64bits.

Kubuntu installed like a breeze and runs as an hurricane. It boots from the 850 SSD in a couple of seconds.

Windows 7 was a nightmare to install. Eventually using Gigabyte's tool to process a bootable USB stick did the trick, but even so W7 does not recognize the 2 SATA and the 2 USB that are powered by the secundary chip ( those powered by promontory run fine ). It takes 1 to 2 minutes to boot, and that seems abnormally long . Some drivers provided by Asrock froze the system. But once the system is launched, it shows some solid performance.
Chip too new for Windows 7 to have any drivers for it. Specifications for a workhorse that is also capable of playing games :-)
Something useful for those sticking with win7 & Ryzen cpus.

https://www.techpowerup.com/232527/user-patch-unlocks-windows-7-and-8-1-updates-for-core-kaby-lake-and-ryzen
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Themken: Chip too new for Windows 7 to have any drivers for it. Specifications for a workhorse that is also capable of playing games :-)
What was suprising was that Windows 7 had no problem whatsoever with the B350 chipset, but with the older Asmedia AHCI controller. In fact, it seemed to be an incompatibility between the Asmedia driver and some UEFI settings.

I had bought the MB flashed , but Asrock released 2 days ago a new rom version, and I started the day flashing the UEFI , which solved the issue. Boot time now under 10 seconds, all drives recognized.

So whereas I had intended to have Linux on the 250GB M2 SSD and Windows on the 500GB sata SSD, I now have exactly the reverse. But aside from that I have what I wanted - building a windows 7 system as modern as possible before the next hardware gereration is entirely incompatible with it.


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fishbaits: Something useful for those sticking with win7 & Ryzen cpus.

https://www.techpowerup.com/232527/user-patch-unlocks-windows-7-and-8-1-updates-for-core-kaby-lake-and-ryzen
Until this prompts a MS reaction. Remember how later updates killed XP ?

I would recommend to nstallfrom an unattended version , in which a selection of updates - avoiding telemetry and the like - had been embedded, as well as the necessary drivers. That way, the system is reasoanbly up to date to start with.
Post edited April 30, 2017 by Phc7006
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Themken: Chip too new for Windows 7 to have any drivers for it. Specifications for a workhorse that is also capable of playing games :-)
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Phc7006: What was suprising was that Windows 7 had no problem whatsoever with the B350 chipset, but with the older Asmedia AHCI controller. In fact, it seemed to be an incompatibility between the Asmedia driver and some UEFI settings.

I had bought the MB flashed , but Asrock released 2 days ago a new rom version, and I started the day flashing the UEFI , which solved the issue. Boot time now under 10 seconds, all drives recognized.

So whereas I had intended to have Linux on the 250GB M2 SSD and Windows on the 500GB sata SSD, I now have exactly the reverse. But aside from that I have what I wanted - building a windows 7 system as modern as possible before the next hardware gereration is entirely incompatible with it.

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fishbaits: Something useful for those sticking with win7 & Ryzen cpus.

https://www.techpowerup.com/232527/user-patch-unlocks-windows-7-and-8-1-updates-for-core-kaby-lake-and-ryzen
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Phc7006: Until this prompts a MS reaction. Remember how later updates killed XP ?

I would recommend to nstallfrom an unattended version , in which a selection of updates - avoiding telemetry and the like - had been embedded, as well as the necessary drivers. That way, the system is reasoanbly up to date to start with.
Yep, I'd be surprised if micro$oft didn't "accidentally" find a way to block this ability.
As for xp, that's sort of before my time. I was strictly Amiga user only back then, except for the occasional "fix my pc please!?" from others :D
Today's the day AMD release their earnings report.
Hope things went well, & considering how popular the Ryzen processors seem to be doing, could be promising.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20170501T14&p0=900&msg=AMD+2017+Q1+Earnings+Release&font=serif
Hmm, a new computer would be kind of nice but €190 for an AMD Ryzen 5 1400 or €220 for an R 5 1500X is quite a bit of money for me and it looks like it is 'only' twice as fast as my current one. Need the other parts too.
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Themken: Hmm, a new computer would be kind of nice but €190 for an AMD Ryzen 5 1400 or €220 for an R 5 1500X is quite a bit of money for me and it looks like it is 'only' twice as fast as my current one. Need the other parts too.
You're anyway probably better off to wait a bit. Not only because prices are bound to go down, but also because the whole platform AM4 suffers from teething problems.

The main one is the difficulties encountered with RAM compatibility. On my Asrock K4 MB, bios 1.40 was not allowing more than 2133 Mhz on my system,, and I had intermittent crash/reboots. Bios 2.50 allows 2666 Mhz, and my system is stable. Any OC returns me to crashland. I have no problem leaving my system non OC though
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fishbaits: Today's the day AMD release their earnings report.
Hope things went well, & considering how popular the Ryzen processors seem to be doing, could be promising.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20170501T14&p0=900&msg=AMD+2017+Q1+Earnings+Release&font=serif
The market expected more than a gross revenue up 18% as it seems. Curious to see Q2, because it is where the larger market demand should be ( I would expect many to have delayed their purchase or aimed at R5 rather than R7)
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fishbaits: Today's the day AMD release their earnings report.
Hope things went well, & considering how popular the Ryzen processors seem to be doing, could be promising.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20170501T14&p0=900&msg=AMD+2017+Q1+Earnings+Release&font=serif
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Phc7006: The market expected more than a gross revenue up 18% as it seems. Curious to see Q2, because it is where the larger market demand should be ( I would expect many to have delayed their purchase or aimed at R5 rather than R7)
Yerp. From what I've read, apparently Q1 is normally quieter than Q2-4, bit bizarre.
I guess Q2 may look better with the Ryzen having been out longer & stabilised & with any luck, a stunning Vega card/release.

I imagine most will be content with R5 as R7 is more towards top end games & even more so for rendering/processor heavy stuff.

Be interesting to see when Zen+ is going to come out.
Post edited May 07, 2017 by fishbaits
Q1 results only had the initial R7 sales included anyway, and only three weeks of them. While they are a very good release the two most profitable of them (1700x and 1800) are niche products mostly competing with also niche Broadwell-E whose sales ought to be dwarfed by R5 and the 1700 non x. Stock prices almost always go down after results whatever the results are. Q2 will be the indicator on AMD's long term viability since that will include R5, 5 series and at least some Vega sales. They need to be making money or at least very close to it then to really be viable.

Apparently the AGESA update for better RAM compatibility should be with MB makers some time this week, so hopefully some improvements in RAM may be available either late this week (beta) or early next week.
Post edited May 08, 2017 by Phasmid
AMD Announces AGESA Update 1.0.0.6 - Supports up to 4000 MHz Memory Clocks

This could make for some great results :D