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wpegg: What's more, their marketting seems to be almost completely targetting at the gaming community, with very little thought for stamp collecting enthusiasts! Fine if no-one else will say it then I will... They're Nazis! There, I've said it.
Why do you have to drag me into this again...

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Oh, wait... those kind of Nazis...
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Pheace: Curious how you being german makes you especially offended about Israeli's being excluded from GFWL (Because that country simply isn't supported as are many others but you didn't seem to realize that yet when you said it)
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StingingVelvet: Germany is insane about that shit. I guess with reason, but still, insane.
Actually, we are not as much as you think. We are considered the "most honorable brokers" by arab and israely officials due to our "special history". While we give Israel the occasional little favor here and there (*cough*submarines*cough*) we are pretty much equally protective about each of the executed minorities. Our "special relations" with Israel and oru jewish population tends to draw more focus, because, well, they always do.
Post edited March 28, 2012 by SimonG
Why is this anti-semitic?

Is Isreal the only country in the world where you get region locking?
They're also apparently anti-Mongolia, anti-Turkey, anti-most of Eastern Europe, anti-Luxembourg, anti-all of Africa except South Africa, anti-Argentina, and anti-Cuba as well.

Edit: Also anti-Iceland, China, Kazakhstan, aaaaand North Korea.
Post edited March 28, 2012 by doccarnby
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doccarnby: They're also apparently ...anti-Turkey...
This I can't understand. Turkey is delicious.
Post edited March 28, 2012 by OmegaX
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SimonG: Actually, we are not as much as you think. We are considered the "most honorable brokers" by arab and israely officials due to our "special history". While we give Israel the occasional little favor here and there (*cough*submarines*cough*) we are pretty much equally protective about each of the executed minorities. Our "special relations" with Israel and oru jewish population tends to draw more focus, because, well, they always do.
The main thing on my mind when writing that was how certain words and images are illegal in Germany.
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Protoss: It does not get better seeing that there are mainly White people's countries on that list. Unfortunate Implications, anyone?
It says bad things about Microsoft, sure. But I don't think it's a racial thing. Look at that list from the standpoint of economy and respect for copyright and the list of notable absences decreases significantly.
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Do you know how many times this (and similar stuff) pops up for me and lots of other people all over the world? It's not even funny anymore.
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StingingVelvet: The main thing on my mind when writing that was how certain words and images are illegal in Germany.
We have illegal signs, but not words. This oes more in the vein of "state protection" than minority protection. If you show the swatzika flag you are denouncing the german state (among other things). I think "flag burning" would be the equvialent in the US (Is that actually illegal?).

The denial of the holocaust (or rather all of the crimes done during that time) is illegal and that is highly, highly, highly controversial within the legal community. In a nutshell, we have a conflict between the freedom of speech and the dignity of the victims of that crime. And in the german constituion, human dignity reigns above all. Literally and legally. This is why the impairment of the freedom of speech is allowed by the constitution.
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doccarnby: They're also apparently anti-Mongolia, anti-Turkey, anti-most of Eastern Europe, anti-Luxembourg, anti-all of Africa except South Africa, anti-Argentina, and anti-Cuba as well.

Edit: Also anti-Iceland, China, Kazakhstan, aaaaand North Korea.
They are also Anti-Russian as well

Even if XBOX Live is currently available in the RF (Which was launched November 2010) as well as GFWL, both absolutely terrible in every way, tons of games missing, absurd and ridiculous prices, missing features and other many other things
Microsoft just recently opened up Xbox Live for Poland (a year or so ago) so this is not really surprising.
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Protoss: It does not get better seeing that there are mainly White people's countries on that list. Unfortunate Implications, anyone?
I don't believe it's for that kind of reasons. Could be because of local legal provisions, agreements with local internet providers, ability to enforce whatever silly concept or policy they built in that crap system of theirs, but if it was some sort of supremacist plot, some countries that are on the list wouldn't be there.

Anyway, the only sound reaction in front of GFWL is to boycott it.
So is the German company that created Drakensang 2 anti-European and anti-German? It's still not available on Steam here.
I did Nazi this coming, but Frankly I don't like it. I'm Göring to ask you to stop with these threads.
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doccarnby: They're also apparently anti-Mongolia, anti-Turkey, anti-most of Eastern Europe, anti-Luxembourg, anti-all of Africa except South Africa, anti-Argentina, and anti-Cuba as well.

Edit: Also anti-Iceland, China, Kazakhstan, aaaaand North Korea.
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Roman5: They are also Anti-Russian as well

Even if XBOX Live is currently available in the RF (Which was launched November 2010) as well as GFWL, both absolutely terrible in every way, tons of games missing, absurd and ridiculous prices, missing features and other many other things
Roman, if we applied that logic then Microsoft would be anti-everyone.
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Navagon: Countries that are supported by Live are very small in number and are the exception rather than the rule. It's reason #864 of the series: Why GFWL is Fucking Awful.
This is a longstanding sore point. Microsoft Israel promised access to Live all the way back in 2006. It has never happened. Nobody is offering any kind of explanation.

Whatever the reason, it's commercially brain-dead. Israel is, per capita, the biggest Internet consumer in the world. There is no monopoly, censorship, or other regulation that would impede the operation of Live. Microsoft has a huge R&D facility in Israel, so it's not like the company could possibly be ignorant of the commercial and Internet conditions in the country.
Post edited March 28, 2012 by cjrgreen