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tinyE: I bet you say that to all the girls. :P
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Strijkbout: I went for one of those penis enlargement ads once, but they really helped, they sended me this huge magnifying glass. =P
I'm writing that one down. XD That's my new party joke. +1
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Strijkbout: I went for one of those penis enlargement ads once, but they really helped, they sended me this huge magnifying glass. =P
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lugum: I guess it didn't work?
Well, you need to be very careful with the sun for not setting the bush on fire. =)
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Strijkbout: I went for one of those penis enlargement ads once, but they really helped, they sended me this huge magnifying glass. =P
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tinyE: I'm writing that one down. XD That's my new party joke. +1
I know another one for you.

What has antlers and uses a combat knife?
Post edited August 28, 2013 by Strijkbout
I'm listening.
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tinyE: I'm listening.
Rambi

=D
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jjsimp: As far as not updating windows. Check the date is correct in the system tray. You reset your CMOS, so it reset your clock. Windows can't find updates when the date is 1900, not sure why.
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OldFatGuy: Yes, you were correct. The system date was showing April 2012. Once I rehooked up everything again, and did a system restore, and corrected the system date, all appears well, so far. THANK YOU.
That one stumped me for a day or two working on my nephews computer. His computer was running really slow, I thought he had a virus and was getting ready to reload when I found the solution to the Windows Update problem. Thankfully, the slowness was just caused by a lot of malware and not a virus.

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OldFatGuy: It shouldn't be a resolution issue, as my monitor and Vizio TV both support 1080p and that is what my computer is always set too..
Just because they both support 1080p doesn't mean they have the same timings and refresh rate. If you look at your desktop refresh rate it is probably 60hz, while your TV will most likely show 56Hz. I've had a PC work perfectly on one 1080p HDTV and not another 1080p HDTV set. Some manufacturers either don't like to conform to specifications or just their shitty components will not support them, probably the latter.

And I would do the remove drivers clean install option, shutdown the computer, remove the old cards, install the new cards, turn on the computer, and then install the drivers (double check nvidia's website that newer drivers haven't come out since your last update).

Your other question about the one card being number one and the other two is beyond my expertise. I do not have an SLI rig. The last and only one I had was back when the Geforce 7800's came out about 5 years ago.

Edit: Geforce 7800 came out in 2005, so eight years ago, plus the two I used that desktop for.
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OldFatGuy: In fact, originally intended to hook the computer directly to the TV with an HDMI cable, and hook my sound directly to the receiver with an optical out cable. This is how I had originally done it. But no matter what I did in Windows, the optical cable out to the receiver wouldn't result in real surround sound. It was basically 2.1 sound, despite configuring it in windows as 5.1)...
Had that problem with optical out as well. It's not a problem with the stereo, but with your PC. For some unknown reason PC sound card manufacturers do not allow you to run 5.1 surround sound over the optical out. The only other option you would have besides HDMI is the if you had the 5.1 analog out. Which I did for awhile until I upgraded my receiver for one that had HDMI ports.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by jjsimp
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jjsimp: Just because they both support 1080p doesn't mean they have the same timings and refresh rate. If you look at your desktop refresh rate it is probably 60hz, while your TV will most likely show 56Hz. I've had a PC work perfectly on one 1080p HDTV and not another 1080p HDTV set. Some manufacturers either don't like to conform to specifications or just their shitty components will not support them, probably the latter.
Okay, I think you're onto something here, though I have no idea what to do about it.

The issue I mentioned was with the gaming rig I had originally in the den, and then moved into my room/office when the one in there developed what I thought was a motherboard problem. THAT computer is now in the den, laying open with both sides removed, as I have been troubleshooting, etc. That is also the one that has two Nvidia 560ti's in it, and the Ivy Bridge CPU, and is the one I purchased the two 760's for.

I just tried to play Civ V on THAT one in the den hooked up to said HD TV (through the receiver) and on THAT one, the intro played fine, but the game, when it came up, had a funny blue outline and constantly flashed, thus making me wonder about your timing remark.

FTR, this 42 inch Vizio supposedly has a 420Hz refresh rate, though the only refresh rate that shows up as an option in Windows is 60Hz.

Does this answer anything, or bring up more questions???

Thanks again for your help.
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OldFatGuy: Does this answer anything, or bring up more questions???

Thanks again for your help.
Not really, besides buying another TV, there is no other option that I know of to get it to work correctly. You could try to drop down to 720p if Windows allows you to do that, or trying using another HDMI port and see if the game looks correct with the changes. Check your TV's manual to see if a PC should only be connected to HDMI2 or 3 instead of what you have it connected to.
Perhaps an HDMI splitter will help, but I doubt it.

Edit: from the old days of graphics cards, I seem to remember ATI cards were better at displaying to a TV. But I doubt that still applies today, and that would cost more than a new TV anyway.

Another thought, have you tried displaying to the TV without the extra graphics card. I seem to remember hearing there were a lot of problems with SLI displaying correctly. That was probably from a year ago, but it's worth a shot and will only cost you a little troubleshooting time.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by jjsimp
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jjsimp: snip
Meh, not an issue since this computer is going back into my room/office once I've settled whether or not to RMA the motherboard. Don't know why I bothered you with the details now, sorry. I just saw that blinking and it made think of your timing remark.

Just got ready to try upgrading my two 560ti's to my 760's while it was laying out here in the den, and was shocked to see the newer 760's DO NOT HAVE HDMI OUTPUT. Couldn't believe that, don't know why I didn't notice that before buying, as this is really going to be a much bigger issue than Civ V flashing. LOL.

My monitor, in my room, of course, has a DVI input in the back, BUT it only has one, and that one is currently taken up with an 11 year old Dell that I still do some old stuff on once in awhile. If I use the only DVI input for this gaming rig, that will mean unplugging and plugging DVI cables every time I fire that one up rather than just simply firing it up and switching inputs on my monitor. It's no surprise to me that the 11 year old Dell doesn't have HDMI outputs, but boy it was a big surprise to see the back of the brand new Nvidia 760's and not see that option.

Damn it. It's always something.

Gonna have to lug this one back into my room, use the only DVI input on my monitor, THEN switch out the video cards, and lug the other one back out here to the den and hook it back up to the receiver/Vizio TV as before. And because I'm still not convinced the motherboard is without problems it's got me in a stalemate.

Damn it.

LOL, sorry, just venting now. Can't seem to have short post ever.

I'm a moron. lol
Post edited August 28, 2013 by OldFatGuy
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OldFatGuy: Just got ready to try upgrading my two 560ti's to my 760's while it was laying out here in the den, and was shocked to see the newer 760's DO NOT HAVE HDMI OUTPUT. Couldn't believe that, don't know why I didn't notice that before buying, as this is really going to be a much bigger issue than Civ V flashing.
Actually, the adaptors for going from HDMI to Display port, or diplay port to HDMI shouldn't be a problem except for the cost of purchasing. It was a real pain when you had to convert a DVI only card to HDMI, as there is no sound on the DVI port.
I still wish they would have kept the HDMI ports on the card, because I don't want to use Display Port. HDMI is good enough for me, and I don't need a specialized port for my computer. I am sure there are some 760's from other manufacturers that still have at least one HDMI port.
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OldFatGuy: Just got ready to try upgrading my two 560ti's to my 760's while it was laying out here in the den, and was shocked to see the newer 760's DO NOT HAVE HDMI OUTPUT.
What brand? As far as I'm aware the base specs for the nvidia 760s include one HDMI port.
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OldFatGuy: Just got ready to try upgrading my two 560ti's to my 760's while it was laying out here in the den, and was shocked to see the newer 760's DO NOT HAVE HDMI OUTPUT.
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Coelocanth: What brand? As far as I'm aware the base specs for the nvidia 760s include one HDMI port.
EVGA. That's all I've ever used, as I've been happy ever since my first EVGA purchase (many, many video cards ago). They're superclocked with the special "ACX Cooling" though I wouldn't think that would matter as to which outputs are on the back. I'll find a link. Back in a few seconds.

EDIT: Link. Heh, price has gone up since I purchased. Usually it goes the other way around, price goes down after I purchase so I can bang my head against the wall for not waiting.

EDIT: WTF??? It's got HDMI right in the damn name on Amazon. I'm going to go look at those cards again.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by OldFatGuy
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OldFatGuy: EDIT: Link. Heh, price has gone up since I purchased. Usually it goes the other way around, price goes down after I purchase so I can bang my head against the wall for not waiting.
Yeah, I've gone EVGA for my last half dozen or so cards. That link you provided shows an HDMI port though.Just above the left hand DVI-I port.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by Coelocanth
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OldFatGuy: EDIT: Link. Heh, price has gone up since I purchased. Usually it goes the other way around, price goes down after I purchase so I can bang my head against the wall for not waiting.
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Coelocanth: Yeah, I've gone EVGA for my last half dozen or so cards. That link you provided shows an HDMI port though.Just above the left hand DVI-I port.
At least they finally got rid of that shitty VGA port. I thought we would be seeing that into the next two decades. Next up for becoming obsolete, DVI port I no longer need you.
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OldFatGuy: EDIT: Link. Heh, price has gone up since I purchased. Usually it goes the other way around, price goes down after I purchase so I can bang my head against the wall for not waiting.
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Coelocanth: Yeah, I've gone EVGA for my last half dozen or so cards. That link you provided shows an HDMI port though.Just above the left hand DVI-I port.
Oh boy, I am a moron.

I looked at that card and the only outputs I saw were two labeled DVI.

But it turns out there's TWO other outputs on it, a Display Port and an HDMI. They were covered with this hard black plastic and not labeled and I just thought they were some part of the card, not outputs. You pull them off and voila, an HDMI and a Display Port output.

I'm going to go bang my head against the wall afterall.

Sorry for the confusion. All my fault.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by OldFatGuy
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OldFatGuy: Oh boy, I am a moron.

I looked at that card and the only outputs I saw were two labeled DVI.

But it turns out there's TWO other outputs on it, a Display Port and an HDMI. They were covered with this hard black plastic and not labeled and I just thought they were some part of the card, not outputs. You pull them off and voila, an HDMI and a Display Port output.

I'm going to go bang my head against the wall afterall.

Sorry for the confusion. All my fault.
LOL - no worries. I actually did the exact same thing once. Couldn't find the port on my card because it had a plastic cover over it. Glad you got it sorted though. Now install those puppies and get that rig rolling.

*is jealous of OFGs 760s*