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Posted August 20, 2013
Finely ground aliens to take-out.

Shadowgrounds Survivor, a dynamic top-down shooter with swarms of alien horrors to spray with bullets, suggestive visuals, spiffy weapon upgrade system, and four player co-op mode, is now available on GOG.com for only $5.99. With that, its predecessor: Shadowgrounds, receives a Mac version and a permanent price drop to $5.99 as well.

In this indirect continuation of Frozenbyte's exciting alien shooter you'll follow a parallel story of the human commando facing the invasion on the Ganymede colony. The horror creeping in the dark corners of the Universe finally caught up with Terran colonists and the massacre that followed was only survived by a handful of the best trained, bravest, and quickest soldiers. Now it is up to them to put a stop to the extraterrestrial menace that threatens our existence.

Shadowgrounds Survivor delivers non-stop alien-shooting action over the course of 20 diverse missions, and it does so in perfect form. The old-school gameplay concept is paired with very modern visuals. You'll feel the heat of the combat and alien blood splatters as your guns rattle and spit a rain of bullets on your monstrous foes. Are you crazy enough to face the endless waves of beast in the timed survival mode? You can even share the fun with up to three more friends, in the fun and challenging co-op mode. Fun times! Dark and dangerous, but fun.

Humanity needs you again, so grab your upgradeable guns, and seriously kick some alien behind in Shadowgrounds Survivor, for only $5.99.
Posted August 20, 2013
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xxxIndyxxx: Did they really said they want to be the direct alternative for steam....?? That explains a lot actually (release wise) and unfortunately if they continue down this road they might come to a sudden stop.
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timppu: I think clinging only to some hard-to-obtain MS-DOS titles found on abandonware sites would bring them to sudden stop much earlier. On top of that, it is better to expand a bit, just to create some extra breathing room.
Sure i am all up for expanding and i do realise the benefits of a broader catalogue. I am not critisising that at all. Like i said i my first post of this topic: this is a good game and it's good to be here even if it's a bit late. What i am critisising, just like keeveek i think is when you look at the releases these past months and if it continues in this way then indeed this looks more and more like a drm free steam. Not that this is a inherent bad thing but i think (i could be wrong here) that when a game is available on other sites then the majority of people will not buy it here....you want to attrackt new customers with stuff you can't find anywhere else (sure that's getting harder, but at least you get goodies and drmfree and fair prices,...)
Posted August 20, 2013
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xxxIndyxxx: Oh come on. It's perfectly understandable what he means! It has nothing to do with one or two dubious releases, it's looking at all the releases these past months....and yes we have been spoiled in the beginning and that is probably the problem ;)
What dubious releases? I am very much interested in getting this game from GOG, even though I didn't even sign the wishlist, like I rarely do.

Should I had similarly complained that the System Shock 2 and Wizardry series releases on GOG are "dubious releases", because I personally wasn't that interested in them? (as I have the retail versions already, including even the early Wizardry games that are missing from GOG)? Or the incoming Chaos Engine release (I consider most Bitmap Brothers games overly overrated, already back in the early 90s).
Posted August 20, 2013
Glad to see over a year after Frozenbyte said DRM Free Trine 2 was "coming soon" that this is the game they felt they needed to get on GOG.
Posted August 20, 2013
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HiPhish: Right on, brother! How dare they use the time when most people are on vacation to release easy to release games!? The entire GoG staff should be locked into a basement with no sunlight and be forced to entangle legal knots, make deals with publishers whose major staff is not available during this time of year and make old poorly programed Window 95 games run on Windows 8 and OS X. Without air conditioning! Also, where is Linux support?
I had assumed summer vacation was a big reason for the classics slump as well.

In the end it's just a store, guys, nothing to get in a twist over. Now Greedo shooting first there's an issue worth several hours of your time. The ending to LOST? How about downloadable content? Oh, I know, coke-fueled child soldiers raiding villages in Sudan. Oh no, wait, that's an issue with actual merit.
Posted August 20, 2013
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undeadcow: Maybe I'm just new around here but all the negativity is confusing; this looks like a fair release at a reasonable price.
GOG started as a site where you can buy really old games that work on new computers. Later it also started selling new and indie games. Now some feels like GOG isn't selling enough old games any more and is instead focusing on new and indie games which they don't like.
It's a topic that comes up a lot lately.
Posted August 20, 2013
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xxxIndyxxx: Oh come on. It's perfectly understandable what he means! It has nothing to do with one or two dubious releases, it's looking at all the releases these past months....and yes we have been spoiled in the beginning and that is probably the problem ;)
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timppu: What dubious releases? I am very much interested in getting this game from GOG, even though I didn't even sign the wishlist, like I rarely do.

Should I had similarly complained that the System Shock 2 and Wizardry series releases on GOG are "dubious releases", because I personally wasn't that interested in them? (as I have the retail versions already, including even the early Wizardry games that are missing from GOG)? Or the incoming Chaos Engine release (I consider most Bitmap Brothers games overly overrated, already back in the early 90s).
Never mind. Maybe it's a language problem or maybe one of us (might even be me) is stupid. I give up, you don't understand what we are trying to say or you don't want to. You are right, i wish i had the time to play all these amazing games and i am just bitter that I own some of them already. Everything Gog releases is simply amazing. Please people buy all these games and gaming will be wonderful.
Posted August 20, 2013
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xxxIndyxxx: Not that this is a inherent bad thing but i think (i could be wrong here) that when a game is available on other sites then the majority of people will not buy it here....you want to attrackt new customers with stuff you can't find anywhere else (sure that's getting harder, but at least you get goodies and drmfree and fair prices,...)
I like to believe that GOG is the one having the real sales data. So if releasing newer (indie) games here didn't make much sense to GOG and no one bought them here, they wouldn't do it. I consider it as a similar move as how Humble Bundle is moving more and more selling only keys to 3rd party services. They wouldn't do that if they didn't make money with them. I presume many expected e.g. Amnesia and the Penumbra Trilogy to sell next to nothing in GOG?

I for one would very much love to see GOG as "DRM-free Steam". Unfortunately it is quite far from that, mainly due to lack of (semi-)new AAA-titles.
Posted August 20, 2013
People don't buy games on summertime - this is the first valid point someone brought up in this thread.

Ok, we'll see about that, how huge storm of classic releases will be present on GOG during the autumn.

btw. remember when GOG had two conferences a year? This year there wasn't a spring conference nor summer conference.

I don't; know, for me it looks like GOG this year just doesn't have much to tell about.
Posted August 20, 2013
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timppu: I think clinging only to some hard-to-obtain MS-DOS titles found on abandonware sites would bring them to sudden stop much earlier. On top of that, it is better to expand a bit, just to create some extra breathing room.
But the thing is, GOG aren't "expanding", they are slowing down. The last month or so hasn't given me the impression GOG are expanding, but that they are barely able to even tread water and get 4 games a week, last week we only got 2 games, looks like it's the same this week too. So it's not so much about classics as it is games full stop.

In my personal opinion though, there is nothing worse than 2004+ shovelware games you've never heard of, they aren't classics they don't have a classic feel or look they just look damn awful. The mid 2000's was godawful for PC games and GOG really should stay clear of stuff from that era. Even a mediocre RPG from 1995 on MS-DOS is better than any games from the 00's.
Post edited August 20, 2013 by Crosmando
Posted August 20, 2013
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undeadcow: Maybe I'm just new around here but all the negativity is confusing; this looks like a fair release at a reasonable price.
Unfortunately, its entitlement (and I'm being kind to stop there). You will see it with every single new release, old release, update, sale, and even when they flat out give free games away.

Every company deals with this, but since GOG doesn't moderate the forums very much, we get to enjoy it all publicly.
Posted August 20, 2013
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xxxIndyxxx: Never mind. Maybe it's a language problem or maybe one of us (might even be me) is stupid. I give up, you don't understand what we are trying to say or you don't want to. You are right, i wish i had the time to play all these amazing games and i am just bitter that I own some of them already. Everything Gog releases is simply amazing. Please people buy all these games and gaming will be wonderful.
So I try to sum up my point of view, to get over any language barriers:

1. Wishing that GOG would release more game(s) is cool (like, wanting GOG to release also more classics is cool).

2. Complaining that some game appears on GOG is uncool (like, complaining about GOG releasing a game that "everyone certainly has from Frozenbyte Bundle already!", or calling them "dubious releases").

I hope we have some kind of understanding there, I already explained before why I feel #1 is ok, and #2 is not. It does seem there's always complaints whenever someone detects a GOG release he doesn't like that much, as if he is against GOG releasing it (either anymore, or at all).
Posted August 20, 2013
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timppu: 2. Complaining that some game appears on GOG is uncool (like, complaining about GOG releasing a game that "everyone certainly has from Frozenbyte Bundle already!", or calling them "dubious releases").
FOR THE LOVE OF ODIN

I AM NOT COMPLAINING GOG RELEASED SHADOWGROUNDS: SURVIVOR, I AM COMPLAINING THAT GOG RELEASED ONLY THIS GAME TODAY AND NOTHING ELSE.

I AM COMPLAINING THAT GOG VISIBLY SLOWED DOWN ON RELEASES AND EVEN DROPPED THEIR LAST PROMOSE "WE WILL RELEASE AT LEAST ONE CLASSIC A WEEK" LATELY. I AM COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR RELEASE SCHEDULE BECAUSE 2 GAMES A WEEK WHEN ONE GAME WAS VOTED BY 30 PEOPLE ON A WISHLIST IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF OR TO PRAISE GOG FOR.

WHEN GOG WAS DEVOTED TO CLASSIC GAMES, 2 RELEASES A WEEK WAS UNDERSTANDABLE, BECAUSE GAMES REQUIRED MANY COMPABILITY WORK AND TESTING, BUT RELEASING ONLY TWO GAMES A WEEK WHEN MOST OF THEM ARE 2D INDIE PLATFORMERS AND BRAND NEW GAMES MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL.

WHEN YOU PUBLICALY PROMISE YOU ARE GOING TO EXPAND, GROW AND STILL BE DEVOTED TO CLASSICS AND THEN RELEASING 2D INDIE PLATFORMERS AND SHOVELWARE IS NOT WHAT THEY PROMISED AND I FEEL DISAPPOINTED AS FUCK.

sorry for caps people, but some people just don't listen.
Post edited August 20, 2013 by keeveek
Posted August 20, 2013
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Crosmando: But the thing is, GOG aren't "expanding", they are slowing down. The last month or so
JMich might have some raw data against that claim. In either case, don't take the slow summer months as indicative about... anything, really.

But if we are talking about only e.g. MS-DOS games (as classics), then I don't find it surprising at all if they are slowing down over time with them. After all, it is a drying well, no one is making more classic MS-DOS games for GOG to release. The easiest classic releases have probably been handled first.

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Crosmando: In my personal opinion though, there is nothing worse than 2004+ shovelware games you've never heard of, they aren't classics they don't have a classic feel or look they just look damn awful. The mid 2000's was godawful for PC games and GOG really should stay clear of stuff from that era. Even a mediocre RPG from 1995 on MS-DOS is better than any games from the 00's.
I disagree. Releases from that time (around 2000-2008 or so, and even newer) is what I am personally hoping for the most, as during those years I was quite wary on buying and trying new PC games, thanks to the rise of Starforce, Securom, emerging online DRM etc. etc. Those have become that hard to obtain games for me, and ones that I don't necessarily have already.
Posted August 20, 2013
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keeveek: FOR THE LOVE OF ODIN

I AM NOT COMPLAINING GOG RELEASED SHADOWGROUNDS: SURVIVOR, I AM COMPLAINING THAT GOG RELEASED ONLY THIS GAME TODAY AND NOTHING ELSE.
THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE WORTH YELLING ABOUT!!!!

Honestly, if half as many people were to use their energy to improve the world as complain about trivial bullshit not a soul would believe in God for we would have made Heaven on Earth.

Yeah right, more likely half of that half would be complaining that the other half isn't improving the world correctly and then the whole council would collapse into fruitless squabbling.

I hate all you people.

edit: To clarify which people.
Post edited August 20, 2013 by Shaolin_sKunk
Posted August 20, 2013
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timppu: 2. Complaining that some game appears on GOG is uncool (like, complaining about GOG releasing a game that "everyone certainly has from Frozenbyte Bundle already!", or calling them "dubious releases").
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keeveek: FOR THE LOVE OF ODIN

I AM NOT COMPLAINING GOG RELEASED SHADOWGROUNDS: SURVIVOR, I AM COMPLAINING THAT GOG RELEASED ONLY THIS GAME TODAY AND NOTHING ELSE.
Uh huh:

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keeveek: Released how many years after the first one? After how many bundles already featured this game?

GOG, are you even trying?

Anyway, it's good that you finally completed this series, but THE ONLY RELEASE today? REALLY?

"we aim to be the first alternative to steam" my ass...
So again, why didn't you complain similarly loudly about GOG not releasing System Shock 2 and the Wizardry series already years ago? Were there any other GOG releases the same day System Shock 2 and Wizardry were released? Would you have complained loudly if there weren't?

Or could it be that you kept you trap shut back then just because GOG happened to release something you liked?
Post edited August 20, 2013 by timppu
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