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Hey guys I am going to be getting a new desktop for myself this summer as I have the money to do it. need to make a decision to build one or buy one. I am relatively proficient in video card and hard drives, but I know very little about motherboards or processors. I have looked into both options and cannot decide. I know it is usually cheaper to build one yourself, but I am worried about compatibility issues. I have around $1500 to spend on this beast.
this place is a decent place to start:
http://arstechnica.com/hardware/guides/2009/04/ars-technica-system-guide-april-2009-edition.ars
This is what I have kind of decided so far, I want:
-Quad Core (Not sure from who)
-At least 4 GB of RAM
-300 GB Velociraptor Hard Drive
-At least 2 PCI x16 Slots
-1 DVD RW Drive
-1 Blu-Ray Burner (I will be using this a good amount)
A built PC I was looking at is the Systemax X58 for around $1700
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4517071&SRCCODE=WEBGPROD&cm_mmc_o=VRqCjC7BBTkwCjCECjCE
First of all, seeing as you're in the US, this site is your friend if you choose to build your own system.
Now, regarding processors, motherboards, and compatibility, decide on the type of processor you're going to go with first (AMD? Intel? Socket type?), then look for a motherboard that has the kind of specs you're looking for (number of PCIe slots, quality northbridge, RAM type, RAID capability, etc). Once you've picked out your motherboard, head on over to the manufacturers' site and check out the qualified vendor list for processors and RAM, and make sure the CPU and RAM you're interested in is on that list (these are the two components most likely to have compatibility issues with your mobo). Once you have mobo, CPU, and RAM picked out decide on a GPU (not much to worry about in terms of compatibility here). Then find a power supply that will provide enough juice for your GPU and processor, and then some. Check the overall wattage, as well as the amps on the 12V rail. And make sure you're getting it from a quality manufacturer, such as Rosewill or Thermaltake. Note that mobo and power supply are two components that are often not given as much consideration as they should be given, and are the two components that you do not want to skimp on. Once you've got mobo, CPU, RAM, GPU, and PSU picked out, HDD, soundcard (if any) and optical drives are just gravy. Oh, and make sure that the case you pick out supports the form factor for your mobo (e.g. ATX, micro ATX, etc), has enough space to fit in your GPU, and has good air flow.
Once you've picked out your components, then decide on whether to build it yourself or buy it pre-built. See how much the components would cost on their own (from a site like Newegg), then see how much a computer with those same components would cost if you had someone put it together. Now decide if that price difference is worth your time and whatever worries you may have about your ability to put a computer together. Also, be sure to include OS and monitor (if you don't already have one) in your costs, as these two things are easily overlooked, but can quickly add $200-400 to the total price of the system.
Also, a final bit of advice, pass on the velociraptor. That jump from 7200 to 10000 RPM is not worth the massive price increase for a desktop PC (there are very few situations where HDD read/write speed with be the limiting factor in performance). Hell, if HDD r/w speed is a concern you could grab two 500-800 GB drives and set them up in RAID 0 for less money that a 300 GB velociraptor costs.
I'd recommend you bump up the graphics card with that Systemax to at least a GTX 280, or even a 9800 in SLI.
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michaelleung: I'd recommend you bump up the graphics card with that Systemax to at least a GTX 280, or even a 9800 in SLI.

SLI is only worthwhile when running at very high resolutions, and even then the increase in performance when compared to the price of a second card is pretty questionable. I'd also recommend a 4870 over a GTX 280 unless price is not a consideration, since while the GTX 280 gives a little bit better performance, the current price gap of ~$100 gives the 4870 a much better performance/price ratio.
If it's your first time building a computer, it would be preferable to have a friend who's done this sort of thing before. If you don't, read up on several sites explaining the process in great detail, and if you're not comfortable building it yourself, I would recommend buying it pre-built. The computer you mentioned, the Systemax X58 looks like a great deal, and if they don't sell you a Blu-Ray drive, you can buy one from some other company and install it yourself, which still means you'll have to put in a little elbow grease, but it will be much easier than building the whole thing from the ground up.
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DarrkPhoenix: First of all, seeing as you're in the US, this site is your friend if you choose to build your own system.
Now, regarding processors, motherboards, and compatibility, decide on the type of processor you're going to go with first (AMD? Intel? Socket type?), then look for a motherboard that has the kind of specs you're looking for (number of PCIe slots, quality northbridge, RAM type, RAID capability, etc). Once you've picked out your motherboard, head on over to the manufacturers' site and check out the qualified vendor list for processors and RAM, and make sure the CPU and RAM you're interested in is on that list (these are the two components most likely to have compatibility issues with your mobo). Once you have mobo, CPU, and RAM picked out decide on a GPU (not much to worry about in terms of compatibility here). Then find a power supply that will provide enough juice for your GPU and processor, and then some. Check the overall wattage, as well as the amps on the 12V rail. And make sure you're getting it from a quality manufacturer, such as Rosewill or Thermaltake. Note that mobo and power supply are two components that are often not given as much consideration as they should be given, and are the two components that you do not want to skimp on. Once you've got mobo, CPU, RAM, GPU, and PSU picked out, HDD, soundcard (if any) and optical drives are just gravy. Oh, and make sure that the case you pick out supports the form factor for your mobo (e.g. ATX, micro ATX, etc), has enough space to fit in your GPU, and has good air flow.
Once you've picked out your components, then decide on whether to build it yourself or buy it pre-built. See how much the components would cost on their own (from a site like Newegg), then see how much a computer with those same components would cost if you had someone put it together. Now decide if that price difference is worth your time and whatever worries you may have about your ability to put a computer together. Also, be sure to include OS and monitor (if you don't already have one) in your costs, as these two things are easily overlooked, but can quickly add $200-400 to the total price of the system.
Also, a final bit of advice, pass on the velociraptor. That jump from 7200 to 10000 RPM is not worth the massive price increase for a desktop PC (there are very few situations where HDD read/write speed with be the limiting factor in performance). Hell, if HDD r/w speed is a concern you could grab two 500-800 GB drives and set them up in RAID 0 for less money that a 300 GB velociraptor costs.

Thanks for the advice I will definitely take this into consideration. It will take me weeks to look for the right components and see what will work best. I do have a friend who has done this before, but he doesn't know everything. He will definitely be a big help along with the GOG community! I shall post again after more looking around. Also I have never done a RAID before, but I get the idea of it. Any advise on how to set it up?
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PieceMaker42: Also I have never done a RAID before, but I get the idea of it. Any advise on how to set it up?

I've actually never set up a RAID array either, although from some of the guides I've looked through it doesn't look all that daunting, at least as long as the mobo you have has a decent enough RAID controller. That said, RAID is something that actually isn't all that beneficial for most desktop PC uses. Although it can speed up HDD r/w significantly, this is rarely the limiting factor in performance for most applications (well, unless you're running a massive database off of your computer). Gaming tends to see even less of a performance increase from RAID 0. Now, if your concern is redundancy then RAID 1 might be worthwhile, but you probably aren't dealing with data sensitive enough that routine backups wouldn't suffice.
Out of interest, does anyone know a decent place I would be able to order a PC in the UK?
I used to build/upgrade myself, but I've been stuck with the same old kit for so long that I need a total overhaul, and at this point I'd rather buy a decent pre-built PC.
A friend of mine recommended Alienware, but they've been bought by Dell, so now I'm not sure if they'd still be the best.
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Andy_Panthro: Out of interest, does anyone know a decent place I would be able to order a PC in the UK?
I used to build/upgrade myself, but I've been stuck with the same old kit for so long that I need a total overhaul, and at this point I'd rather buy a decent pre-built PC.
A friend of mine recommended Alienware, but they've been bought by Dell, so now I'm not sure if they'd still be the best.

I think iBuyPower does UK orders. Not sure though, but those guys are cheap and some of their systems are spooky cheap for the gear you find inside those cases.
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michaelleung: I think iBuyPower does UK orders. Not sure though, but those guys are cheap and some of their systems are spooky cheap for the gear you find inside those cases.

Couldn't see any UK prices or ordering info on the website, did find http://www.dinopc.co.uk/ though, seems okay for price, good for customisation.
[edit] scratch that, read some poor reviews of this company (seems it possibly went bankrupt?) checking out http://www.novatech.co.uk/ instead
Post edited May 16, 2009 by Andy_Panthro
I have finally looked through all my parts and I am about a week away from the buying of it. this is what I have decided on.
Sparkle GeForce GTS 250 Video Card - 1024MB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0, (2) Dual Link DVI, SLI Ready - $150
[url=]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4502183&Sku=S15-0252[/url]
Asus P6T LGA 1366 Motherboard - $260
[url=]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4366643[/url]
Intel Core i7 920 Processor BX80601920 - 2.66GHz, LGA 1366, 4.8GT/s QPI, 8MB L3 Cache, Quad-Core, HyperThreading - $280
[url=]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4240166[/url]
2 Sets of Corsair XMS3 Tri Channel 6GB PC12800 DDR3 Memory - $220 Total
[url=]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=4603139[/url]
Corsair TX750W 750-Watt Power Supply - $115
[url=]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3438609[/url]
Acer X233H 23" Widescreen HD LCD Monitor - 1920 x 1080, 40000:1 Dynamic Contrast Resolution, 5ms, HDMI, DVI, VGA - $190
[url=]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4401406&Sku=A179-2300[/url]
Everything should be compatible. I already know I need a keyboard/mouse, but that is easy. I also know hard drives pretty well so I got that worked out. The last thing is a blu-ray/dvd drive, but that is pretty simple. I think this rig is going to be awesome, but it will cost me around $1600 total. It should last me ~4 years with few modifications. Any suggestions or changes you guys recommend?
Post edited June 13, 2009 by PieceMaker42
So of course you'll be going for a 64-bit OS with that amount of RAM?
I'm using Windows 7 RC 64-bit, and it's great, I've had no problems with getting anything to work so far, including my GOG games and the latest Steam, Impulse and retail games. I can recommend trying that; it's free to use until next year, and you can buy the release version in October (you'll have to do a fresh reinstall of course).
Yikes, you're making me jealous here. All those components look quite good. Mobo and CPU are top line, and that mobo should allow for good expandability (like you'd need it). The brands for all components are solid, and all have great reviews. Two small comments, though. First, the GPU is a little bit weak compared to the other components you have. Now, make no mistake, it's still a great card, it's just that your other components are of such high quality that the GPU will end up being the limiting factor in your system. Second, in my opinion you're going a bit overboard on the RAM. Each of those sets gives you 6 GB, for a grand total of 12 GB; unless you're planning on running a couple hundred applications in the background while you game pretty much all your other components will be at their limit before you even come close to fully using all that RAM. I'd personally recommend dropping one of the sets of RAM and instead switching out the 250 for something like the 4870, which would give you a more balanced and overall superior performance profile for about the same price (a little less, actually). Although if you have a preference for Nvidia over ATI then just disregard what I said.
Also, out of curiousity, what case are you going to be sticking all of these components in?
EDIT: One more comment. Reviews mention that the Core i7 920 runs a bit hot with the stock cooler, so you might need to consider getting an aftermarket cooler for it. But wait and see what kind of temperatures you get before you drop any money on it (if the CPU idles over 50 C or is over 80 under load you should go for an aftermarket cooler).
Post edited June 13, 2009 by DarrkPhoenix