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Posted October 07, 2008
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Cook66: Freedom Force vs The 3rd Reich is on my pretty boycott list for using Starforce, the worst DRM software known to man. It messed my computer up severely.
SecuROM is nothing compared to this thing.

USA Version of FF vs. The 3rd Reich doesn't contain StarForce (thank God).
You might want to import a copy of that version, if you can find one?
Posted October 07, 2008
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Cook66: Freedom Force vs The 3rd Reich is on my pretty boycott list for using Starforce, the worst DRM software known to man. It messed my computer up severely.
SecuROM is nothing compared to this thing.
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MysterD: USA Version of FF vs. The 3rd Reich doesn't contain StarForce (thank God).
You might want to import a copy of that version, if you can find one?

My US copy of FF2 has StarForce (hence why I don't play it anymore). AFAIK, all versions of the game used StarForce, regardless of region.
Posted October 07, 2008
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MysterD: USA Version of FF vs. The 3rd Reich doesn't contain StarForce (thank God).
You might want to import a copy of that version, if you can find one?
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cogadh: My US copy of FF2 has StarForce (hence why I don't play it anymore). AFAIK, all versions of the game used StarForce, regardless of region.

I don't recall Sierra (who published it in the USA) using StarForce...
Does anyone?
I just booted the USA version of the game and it did none of the usual SF oddness; it just booted right up as soon as I put it in.
I've had some SF products -- FF vs. Third Reich USA is not showing any sign. SF does odd and funny weird things (b/c it measures discs and does other thing). Usually, the disc spins like crazy and stops and goes, upon boot-up....
I could've swore FF vs. Third Reich in the USA was published with Securom.
It definitely was published overseas w/ StarForce, though -- who published it over in the UK?
Post edited October 07, 2008 by MysterD
Posted October 07, 2008
Vivendi Universal published it in the US, Digital Jesters in the UK. VU is one of the major clients of Protection Technology, the makers of StarForce. I don't know about Digital Jesters. Until recently, VU was second only to UbiSoft in their use of StarForce (Ubi quit using it after public outcry).
You should probably check your PC for the hidden driver StarForce installs:
1. Go to Start>Run and type "Cmd" (without quotes) and press Enter.
2. Type "Set Devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1" (without quotes) and press Enter.
3. Type "Devmgmt.msc" (without quotes) and Press Enter.
4. In the Device Manager window which shows up, go to the View menu and select 'Show Hidden Devices'.
5. Go to the 'Non-Plug and Play Devices' item and expand it. Scroll down and you will see several StarForce entries, if you have it.
Post edited October 07, 2008 by cogadh
Posted October 07, 2008
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cogadh: Vivendi Universal published it in the US, Digital Jesters in the UK. VU is one of the major clients of Protection Technology, the makers of StarForce. I don't know about Digital Jesters. Until recently, VU was second only to UbiSoft in their use of StarForce (Ubi quit using it after public outcry).
You should probably check your PC for the hidden driver StarForce installs:
1. Go to Start>Run and type "Cmd" (without quotes) and press Enter.
2. Type "Set Devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1" (without quotes) and press Enter.
3. Type "Devmgmt.msc" (without quotes) and Press Enter.
4. In the Device Manager window which shows up, go to the View menu and select 'Show Hidden Devices'.
5. Go to the 'Non-Plug and Play Devices' item and expand it. Scroll down and you will see several StarForce entries, if you have it.

There's a few there -- guessing they came from Beyond Divinity, X3: Reunion, SC: Chaos Theory, and probably a few others I can't think of off top of my head.
Here's a list of what games use StarForce -- which include what games use StarForce (or not) in whatever specific regions.
Posted October 07, 2008
Somewhat interesting trivia: Ken Levine (of System/Bio -Shock fame) worked as game-designer on this game...
Posted October 07, 2008
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cogadh: Vivendi Universal published it in the US, Digital Jesters in the UK. VU is one of the major clients of Protection Technology, the makers of StarForce. I don't know about Digital Jesters. Until recently, VU was second only to UbiSoft in their use of StarForce (Ubi quit using it after public outcry).
You should probably check your PC for the hidden driver StarForce installs:
1. Go to Start>Run and type "Cmd" (without quotes) and press Enter.
2. Type "Set Devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1" (without quotes) and press Enter.
3. Type "Devmgmt.msc" (without quotes) and Press Enter.
4. In the Device Manager window which shows up, go to the View menu and select 'Show Hidden Devices'.
5. Go to the 'Non-Plug and Play Devices' item and expand it. Scroll down and you will see several StarForce entries, if you have it.
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MysterD: There's a few there -- guessing they came from Beyond Divinity, X3: Reunion, SC: Chaos Theory, and probably a few others I can't think of off top of my head.
Here's a list of what games use StarForce -- which include what games use StarForce (or not) in whatever specific regions.

Ah, yes. Don't trust that list, it is not very accurate (like most Wikis are). It even lists the wrong UK publisher for FF2.
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Kleevah: Somewhat interesting trivia: Ken Levine (of System/Bio -Shock fame) worked as game-designer on this game...

Pretty much everyone involved in those games worked on this game, they were all developed by Irrational, or at least people who eventually became part of Irrational after Looking Glass folded.
Post edited October 07, 2008 by cogadh
Posted October 08, 2008
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MysterD: There's a few there -- guessing they came from Beyond Divinity, X3: Reunion, SC: Chaos Theory, and probably a few others I can't think of off top of my head.
Here's a list of what games use StarForce -- which include what games use StarForce (or not) in whatever specific regions.
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cogadh: Ah, yes. Don't trust that list, it is not very accurate (like most Wikis are). It even lists the wrong UK publisher for FF2.
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Kleevah: Somewhat interesting trivia: Ken Levine (of System/Bio -Shock fame) worked as game-designer on this game...

Pretty much everyone involved in those games worked on this game, they were all developed by Irrational, or at least people who eventually became part of Irrational after Looking Glass folded.

And of course, Irrational is now part of 2K Games -- Irrational's split up 2K Games Boston, 2K Games Australia, and 2K Games Marin.
Side note: 2K Marin is many of the ex-2K Boston team, who are now working on Bioshock 2.
Post edited October 08, 2008 by MysterD
Posted February 05, 2009
Freedomforce 2 used the StarForce DRM. It screwed up my computer completely. I doubt a company using that would agree to gog's requirments, and even if they did I would never buy it.
Posted February 05, 2009
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Cook66: Freedomforce 2 used the StarForce DRM. It screwed up my computer completely. I doubt a company using that would agree to gog's requirments, and even if they did I would never buy it.

Why wouldn't you get it? Because the game sucked? Or are you just angry that your computer broke? I am curious because I have it, but have never played it, I was wondering if I should play that next, or just play something else.
Posted February 06, 2009
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Cook66: Freedomforce 2 used the StarForce DRM. It screwed up my computer completely. I doubt a company using that would agree to gog's requirments, and even if they did I would never buy it.
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honorbuddy: Why wouldn't you get it? Because the game sucked? Or are you just angry that your computer broke? I am curious because I have it, but have never played it, I was wondering if I should play that next, or just play something else.

Well I'm first and foremost angry, but I did get to play it a while later and to be honest Freedom Force 1 was plenty FF for me. FF2 doesn't really do anything new or interesting as far as I noticed and the novelty of the thing was defiantly lost.
Posted February 06, 2009
The appeal of FF2 is definitely the story. If you are a fan of comics, especially Marvel stories like the Dark Phoenix saga, it is a really cool game to play. Unfortunately, the game was originally planned as a trilogy, so the story does kind of leave you hanging at the end.
Otherwise, the game play is identical to the previous game, which is not a bad thing at all.
Posted February 23, 2009
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triplett: OMFG, YES!
I actually own both of these games, but would gladly purchase them again just for the DRM-free goodness. I never reinstalled them after rebuilding my gaming PC because once it was pristine I didn't want to pollute it again with dodgy stuff. Spent my time playing non-DRM games on Linux instead and stopped buying new games. (Yes, gaming industry - DRM lost a good customer for you.)
Freedom Force (1 and 2) FTW!

I was thinking this in my drive to work today. Yes Please. Thank you :) I would love both of these games!
Posted February 23, 2009
Just voted for Freedom Force (and its sequel) on the wishlist.
BJ
Posted February 24, 2009
I really wanted the original when it came out but my computer at the time didn't have enough horsepower to run it. I'm heading over to the wish list section to place my vote right now.
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