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This happens more and more. I get notified on gog.com there are game updates but when I check the offline installers the latest version/ patches are not there yet. I suspect the updates are distributed with galaxy when the update message is given but the offline installers are neglected (are coming later)

This is a serious problem, because the update-message is gone after checking the files and when the files indeed get added (often much later) does not reappear. This way we loose track of the latest versions of games.

Please fix

PS; an example is Everspace. I got notified on gog.com that there is an update. (there indeed is a new version: 1.3.5) But when I checked there was and is still only version 1.3.4 offered as offline installer.
Post edited October 04, 2019 by donderkop
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In the case of Everspace, only the Linux offline installer got updated to 1.3.5.3655, so far. You'll probably get a new notification when the Windows and Mac versions will be updated too, hopefully next days.

If you wish, you can check on gogdb what games get updated daily.
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Not sure if it is still the case, but the last time I checked - many many months ago The Witcher 3 download files were outdated to the previous version compared to the version that Galaxy installs and it seemed like nobody cared to update it. I haven't checked in a while so that may or may not be the case at the present but a friend of mine who bought Witcher 3 who didn't want Galaxy was quite upset he couldn't get the latest version without using Galaxy and said he wouldn't buy games here again unless they fixed that, and that he was leary of buying games in the future because he could never know for sure if he'd get the latest version of anything.

Bummed me out because I try to promote GOG to people a lot. I get the impression that less than 1% of people use downloads exclusively now and everyone is more or less using Galaxy so GOG has lost their incentive to treat the original installers with any form of urgency or priority. Plus, Galaxy 2.0 does not appear to even let you download games anymore or else I'm blind. I guess they don't want to support downloading installers in the client anymore and want people to use the website instead, which is a real bummer for those of us who want to download perfect copies of the actual up to date game installers for backup purposes, a big claim made since the beginning of time as a selling feature here. :(

I love GOG, but really wish they would maintain consistency for things like this. Very soon I'm going to be upgrading my main computer and doing a full download of my entire library to ensure I have the latest files they have to offer. I will be posting a fully documented list of my results for every game/file I own here so others can compare etc. and I'll be filing support requests for any files that are missing. This will be time consuming to say the least, as I'm probably going to have to download the games first, then install them over Galaxy to compare the versions to see if the installer downloaded is updated or not. Big nightmare times almost 700 games. :(

I haven't checked the forums yet to see if anyone has made a thread to track installers that are know to be outdated and for how long, and part of me wants to but then it would be somewhat disconcerting too so I'm hesitant.

Anyhow, hopefully they will do better in the future and not forget about history entirely.
Another example is Corpse Party: Sweet Sachiko's Hysteric Birthday Bash. See attached screenshot.

I notified support about this matter (including a few other issues with ToCS2), and i was told the offline installer for this particular game would be updated this week but so far, nothing.
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skeletonbow: Not sure if it is still the case, but the last time I checked - many many months ago The Witcher 3 download files were outdated to the previous version compared to the version that Galaxy installs and it seemed like nobody cared to update it. I haven't checked in a while so that may or may not be the case at the present but a friend of mine who bought Witcher 3 who didn't want Galaxy was quite upset he couldn't get the latest version without using Galaxy and said he wouldn't buy games here again unless they fixed that, and that he was leary of buying games in the future because he could never know for sure if he'd get the latest version of anything.
The Witcher 3 patch 1.32 was for Chinese language support it arrived on Galaxy on 2018-11-06/07(different dates depending on if it was original or goty) and the patch file for it arrived 2019-01-02. The update is only available as a patch they didn't update the base installer.
The users in the "what did just update topic" have been doing "GOG's work" (heh) in informing what installers are updated and which ones are Galaxy-only updates for the time being.

The second-class treatment of the standalone installers really bugs me too, since they are the main reason I shop here.

I advise just not bothering with updates; or only clicking on them after a week or two has passed, to increase the chances
the installer will actually be updated.
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rjbuffchix: The users in the "what did just update topic" have been doing "GOG's work" (heh) in informing what installers are updated and which ones are Galaxy-only updates for the time being.

The second-class treatment of the standalone installers really bugs me too, since they are the main reason I shop here.

I advise just not bothering with updates; or only clicking on them after a week or two has passed, to increase the chances
the installer will actually be updated.
I was not aware of the "what did just update topic" . Thanks Will check that thread out, but still think GOG has to do some effort to fix this second-class treatment.

The standalone installers installers are my main reason for buying here too. I even bought many games I already had on Steam on GOG again (when they were on sale) specifically because of the existence of those standalone installers.

Guess not checking updates just after the notification is a work-around. But like others stated; sometimes the offline installers are really forgotten for long times.
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ariaspi: In the case of Everspace, only the Linux offline installer got updated to 1.3.5.3655, so far. You'll probably get a new notification when the Windows and Mac versions will be updated too, hopefully next days.

If you wish, you can check on gogdb what games get updated daily.
It would be nice if the notifications would be accompanied by information about what is exactly updated. (like: Linux offline installer got updated to 1.3.5.3655) This is no so hard to implement. If, for example I check the Everspace changelog there is no mention about that the Linux offline installer got updated to 1.3.5.3655. Last entry is still Patch 1.3.4. This problem is present with many (or even most/all? ) games
Post edited October 05, 2019 by donderkop
I don't know exactly, maybe it has something to do with (afaik) Galaxy being a faster way to get patches to folks thus devs mainly use that, and GOG has to do the work themselves of bundling patches into new installers. I'm pretty sure the GOG has automated patches being bundled into new installers, but maybe there are other factors at play.

Maybe GOG still does testing of patches on modern games, which seems rather time-consuming to me but might still be smart ultimately.
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skeletonbow: I get the impression that less than 1% of people use downloads exclusively now and everyone is more or less using Galaxy
I'd be really interested in knowing these percentages.
Post edited October 05, 2019 by tfishell
The vast majority use Galaxy, and developers complain about making standalone patches being a pain in the ass, so it makes sense they're delayed sometimes. They shouldn't be TOO delayed though, since GOG keeps promising full support for offline installers. I'd contact support if one takes more than a week or so to come out after the client version.
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skeletonbow: Bummed me out because I try to promote GOG to people a lot. I get the impression that less than 1% of people use downloads exclusively now and everyone is more or less using Galaxy so GOG has lost their incentive to treat the original installers with any form of urgency or priority. Plus, Galaxy 2.0 does not appear to even let you download games anymore or else I'm blind. I guess they don't want to support downloading installers in the client anymore and want people to use the website instead, which is a real bummer for those of us who want to download perfect copies of the actual up to date game installers for backup purposes, a big claim made since the beginning of time as a selling feature here. :(
It's a beta. A lot of features from Galaxy 1.0 are missing. Hell it didn't even have a download page until a few weeks ago. Pretty sure GOG already stated they will be adding these features back in eventually during the beta phase.

To soon to be all doom and gloom.
Shameless plug regarding GOGs offline backups:

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/more_detail_on_offline_installer_pages
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skeletonbow: Bummed me out because I try to promote GOG to people a lot. I get the impression that less than 1% of people use downloads exclusively now and everyone is more or less using Galaxy so GOG has lost their incentive to treat the original installers with any form of urgency or priority. Plus, Galaxy 2.0 does not appear to even let you download games anymore or else I'm blind. I guess they don't want to support downloading installers in the client anymore and want people to use the website instead, which is a real bummer for those of us who want to download perfect copies of the actual up to date game installers for backup purposes, a big claim made since the beginning of time as a selling feature here. :(
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BKGaming: It's a beta. A lot of features from Galaxy 1.0 are missing. Hell it didn't even have a download page until a few weeks ago. Pretty sure GOG already stated they will be adding these features back in eventually during the beta phase.

To soon to be all doom and gloom.
No doom and gloom, just commenting on the current state of the program, which means it can't be used to download right now, and being realistic about their motivation to make it work any time soon since so few people likely use it at all. We will most likely never hear any official statistics from them about what percentage of users use it as that is their own internal statistics data, but most gamers out there grew up with clients and clearly prefer them so those of us who want downloadable installers and a convenient way to download them even if we also like gaming clients and want to use them too - are the miniscule minority, and from the perspective of a publicly traded company responsible for shareholders it makes business sense for them to razor hone their development resource focus on developing features/functionality for the majority userbase, and put things for the <= 1% on the back burner potentially for a long time or indefinitely.

It's a bummer, but economically it makes logical sense. It's not like they're going to lose many customers over not doing it right away, or at all. I just hope that they do still care and do work on it and it's not Coming Soon™. :)
My problem is the opposite. Offline installers being UPDATED. In games like Outlast 2, i needed older versions, because newer updates have unwanted changes for me. But generally, offline installers lately, aren't being treated nicely, aren't given attention, or proper care.

GOG should really check that. Keep older game versions is okay, but upping the patches for manual application, is what should be addressed, here.

Somebody notify the higher ups!? Pushing Galaxy is good and all (has rollback feature), but a healthy portion of users here, want nothing to do with clients, whatsoever.
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skeletonbow: […] I love GOG, but really wish they would maintain consistency for things like this. Very soon I'm going to be upgrading my main computer and doing a full download of my entire library to ensure I have the latest files they have to offer. I will be posting a fully documented list of my results for every game/file I own here so others can compare etc. and I'll be filing support requests for any files that are missing. This will be time consuming to say the least, as I'm probably going to have to download the games first, then install them over Galaxy to compare the versions to see if the installer downloaded is updated or not. Big nightmare times almost 700 games. :(
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It will be interesting to see your conclusions. Why would you install the games through the Galaxy client?
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rjbuffchix: The users in the "what did just update topic" have been doing "GOG's work" (heh) in informing what installers are updated and which ones are Galaxy-only updates for the time being.

The second-class treatment of the standalone installers really bugs me too, since they are the main reason I shop here.

I advise just not bothering with updates; or only clicking on them after a week or two has passed, to increase the chances
the installer will actually be updated.
I haven't checked that topic for a while, since there is a lot of noise (many, many games that I do not own) and it works best as a search sample rather than a daily digest (for me, anyway).

AFAIK most of the recent patches are merely adding cloud saving functionality, which is certainly not necessary. The other updates are for regional languages, etc., which also won't affect people who speak English as their native tongue. Consequently I rarely download updates to the original offline installer (I still have a backlog of games to download for the first time, which takes precedence).
Why is it so hard for GOG to have a central repository for all game installers that both GOG Galaxy and the website can both sync to? That way, there would be no need for the website to "catch up" to new updates. Both GOG Galaxy and the website would have access to all versions and patches available for a game at the same time.

With a central repository, GOG only needs to maintain one source of game installers and patches. You would no longer have the excuse of having to do extra work to maintain the offline backup installers.
Post edited October 07, 2019 by ryuken3k