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I missed the boat on BitCoin and other digital currencies in the past but there's a new one on the block called Initiative Q that is supposedly giving away its Q coins for free for a limited time. Apparently you need an invite from another member. For those that follow this sort of thing, is there any merit to this? What's the catch? Have any of you managed to score an invite and are able to speak on it first-hand?

https://initiativeq.com
https://www.techinasia.com/talk/founder-challenge-visa-global-currency
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lelalondon/2018/11/01/is-initiative-q-the-new-bitcoin/#2298b59c783f
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Star_Ocean: I missed the boat on BitCoin and other digital currencies in the past but there's a new one on the block called Initiative Q that is supposedly giving away its Q coins for free for a limited time. Apparently you need an invite from another member. For those that follow this sort of thing, is there any merit to this? What's the catch? Have any of you managed to score an invite and are able to speak on it first-hand?

https://initiativeq.com
https://www.techinasia.com/talk/founder-challenge-visa-global-currency
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lelalondon/2018/11/01/is-initiative-q-the-new-bitcoin/#2298b59c783f
I missed out on bitcoin, as well. I understand the desire to have a currency other than government mandated currency, but you're very likely to loose your money in terms of legal bans, non-acceptance, etc. You're better off buying precious metals, but you gotta be careful, there, too.

As for the scam, everyone and their brother wants to make their own crypto, since anyone with the right background can do it. The problem is, if you throw alot of money into something that doesn't pan out (doesn't become accepted for what you paid for it), you're out of money. And if it ends up broken, you're out of money. And that's just assuming that there's no scam in it at all, which there probably isn't. That's not to say that a smart cookie out there can't come up with a crypto people buy into, only to have it not really stable and abandoned by the creator and he runs off with the money to boot.

Bitcoin started at about 35 bucks. If i had it all over to do again, i would've paid 35, and only 35, but i assumed it was a scam off the bat. Today, any new ones coming up are maybe worth 5 bucks if it's cheap enough, and spending no more than 50 bucks to have 10 different diversified markets. You won't make big bucks that way, but you're not taking huge risks either. Eventually, i think this crypto stuff is going to crash when everyone and their brother has their own crypto currency.
Post edited November 15, 2018 by kohlrak
This is all I know about it;

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2018/10/initiative-q/amp/

And is a reasonably good guide to the concept I think.

Basically it's not worth anything at the moment, you can get some for free and it may be worth something in the future but very likely not..

That be said, if you can be bothered you may as well sign up and get some for free on the off chance it does pan out, but don't put any money into it.
I have absolutely no idea how these things work. But as long as you don't spend your own money...

I wouldn't be so sure about it being completely free. You are giving your data, which has value. However, what service doesn't ask you for an email address nowadays?

If you fear spam and have an old or secondary email address, you might try to sign up with it.
A crypto currency called "Q" will probably be accepted at least by 4chan...
Considering that I already consider Cryptocurrency as beanie babies, I don't see how a new currency is going to fix the various problems Cryptocurrency has.

For those that don't understand my metaphor, there was something of a devious marketing tactic in the 90s. Whereupon it was announced that a stuffed plush was being discontinued to make way for a new series. People would go out in droves to buy the old one, and hope to sell them off for hundreds, but it turns out that there weren't any takers. In the end you were left with a bunch of worthless plush dolls.

Except that Beanie Babies have actual physicality and were made worthless by oversaturation, Bitcoin is worthless by being nonphysical and what is in essence a laterally advanced pyramid scheme.

Edit: Hold the phone, that's just a MLM/Pyramid con.
Post edited November 15, 2018 by Darvond
Looks like the Q continuum have rebranded...
Another electricity-wasting, GPU price-inflating, unstable "currency" for criminals to buy CP and drugs on the deep web, awesome.
Smells like a MLM scheme.
Sounds like they're trying to institute a global credit card structure with an alternative currency. At least that's how the FAQ reads. And they make it sound like their structure is going to blow away any of the existing credit card structures. And might be masking an MLM scheme, but it doesn't look like you're giving them money right away. However, they do talk about "tasks" in the future, which might be where the scam comes into play. More on that below.

Assuming that it's not a scam / pyramid / MLM, one definite problem with their argument is that they assume VISA, etc., are going to be standing still while Q gets up and going. And they're not standing still at all. They're already widely-accepted global networks, they already have really good data security, they're already widely accepted, and they don't limit themselves to being digital-only.

On the digital-only thing, Q speaks of not needing cards or cash, which means you're using a smart phone (or PC) or some other device that may as well be a card. But later they say:
Helping the unbanked: Connecting to the world economy the billions who don’t have access to financial services.
Which seems counter to having a smart phone to access Q in the first place, and relies on internet access for those people.

And then there's this:
How many Qs are there? Who holds them?

Two trillion Qs will be issued, to be distributed as follows:

80% are expected to be distributed as incentives — to encourage user activity and promote network growth. Around half of the incentives are reserved for buyers, and the rest for sellers, agents, contributors, and to incentivize growth-supporting activities within the Q network.
10% are assigned to the Initiative Q payment company, for the purpose of funding development of the world’s most advanced payment network.
10% are assigned to the Q monetary committee monetary reserves. These will be gradually converted to other currencies and financial assets, allowing any Q member to easily convert to other currencies if needed. Monetary committee members will be compensated according to industry standards.

Once the initial 2 trillion Q are fully distributed, the monetary committee may create and distribute new Qs in order to keep the money supply in line with economic activity and to maintain stability, as outlined in the economic model.
They say that the target value is Q1 = $1. So they're generating from thin air $2 trillion?

And why do this? Simple. They talk about a $2 trillion valuation for distributed Q, and the description sounds like credit card transactions. If a CC, er, Q transaction nets them 0.5% in fees (likely more than that since digital-only purchases can net a higher transaction fee from the vendor) then they're looking at $10 billion annually if each Q turns over only once per year. Not bad for creating a currency out of nothing.

About the 'tasks':
Requiring members to undertake simple tasks to qualify for the rewards. These are tasks that promote wide scale adoption of Q, for the benefit of all members (read more about the reasoning behind these tasks above).
Why am I required to complete tasks to reserve my full Q reward?

Initiative Q’s unique rewards model is what allows it to overcome the adoption barrier that has impeded previous payment technologies. It encourages fast adoption of advanced payment technologies, while others struggle to attract new users.

Initiative Q will be giving free currency to incentivize actions that help the system grow. That includes tasks such as: registration and verification of friends, installing the Q application, adding information, making purchases, etc. These tasks are in everyone’s interests, as they will help Initiative Q grow, and reach the target of releasing all Qs to members at a value of around one USD per Q.
Go ahead and join since it's free at this point, but I'd pay really close attention to those 'tasks' that you'll be assigned in the future. Wouldn't surprise me if they end up directing you to spend real money at some preferred vendors, or asking you to provide start-up funding. Healthy skepticism should be the order of the day.

Helping the unbanked: Connecting to the world economy the billions who don’t have access to financial services.
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HereForTheBeer: Which seems counter to having a smart phone to access Q in the first place, and relies on internet access for those people.
It's easier to get a smart phone than a bank account and there's is more problems with banks encouraging people to use these new products.
Generic website, hardly any information on the team, overblown promises... take your guess...