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Posted December 09, 2016
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blakstar: We need older games that are newer than the really old games! :-P
Very good point. I would love more classics between 1990 to 2004. Generally speaking games released before 360/PS3/Wii and games released after arcades had lost its appeal.
Posted December 09, 2016
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HereForTheBeer: Though it doesn't meet the OPs pre-2000 criteria, I'd be jazzed to see the Company of Heroes games make their way here. Don't suppose Nordic picked up that portion of THQ... that would give me at least SOME hope.
Abandon hope. Sega owns Company of Heroes. :P
Posted December 09, 2016
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HereForTheBeer: Though it doesn't meet the OPs pre-2000 criteria, I'd be jazzed to see the Company of Heroes games make their way here. Don't suppose Nordic picked up that portion of THQ... that would give me at least SOME hope.
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Grargar: Abandon hope. Sega owns Company of Heroes. :P
D'oh!
Posted December 09, 2016
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dtgreene: Personally, I would like to see more games from the 1980's and earlier. I want games that are even older than Akalabeth (which I believe is the earliest game in gog.com's catalog)!
Thing with that is most games from the 1980's are better on systems other than PC, so I would want the superior versions.
Posted December 09, 2016
I wonder if GoG would consider going back to their roots. I doubt there would be a market for individual Spectrum / C64 / Amstrad games. Or even Atari ST ones. But perhaps a collection, say 10 -15 Sims, Adventures etc. Complete with emulator a la DosBox.

It was GoG's ability to sort out old games and configure DosBox that broiught me here. So I know they can.

A previous poster said those that want them probably already have them, but there may be a market for a few emulated collections for those of us who aren't tech savvy. If they are already available to those who want them then the legal side shouldn't be that difficult considering GoG's experience.

As for what constitutes an "old" game, well that will always depend on your perspective.
Posted December 09, 2016
It sometimes blows my mind that games I still consider recent, are close to one decade old already. Mirror's Edge, Bioshock etc. Dang, I feel like they appeared yesterday!
Posted December 09, 2016
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bonzer: I wonder if GoG would consider going back to their roots. I doubt there would be a market for individual Spectrum / C64 / Amstrad games. Or even Atari ST ones. But perhaps a collection, say 10 -15 Sims, Adventures etc. Complete with emulator a la DosBox.

It was GoG's ability to sort out old games and configure DosBox that broiught me here. So I know they can.

A previous poster said those that want them probably already have them, but there may be a market for a few emulated collections for those of us who aren't tech savvy. If they are already available to those who want them then the legal side shouldn't be that difficult considering GoG's experience.

As for what constitutes an "old" game, well that will always depend on your perspective.
Amiga > ST, sorry, I couldn't resist.
Posted December 09, 2016
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Leroux: ... but sadly publishers, lawyers and/or technical support staff said no, for various reasons. It isn't as easy as crossing titles off a shopping list.
So what kind of legal or technical reasons prevent GOG from releasing the rest of MicroProse classics already published by Retroism on Steam? I am talking about F14 Fleet Defender, 1942 Pacific Air War and Task Force, M1A1 Tank, F-19 Stealth Fighter and Hyperspeed specifically.
Posted December 09, 2016
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Leroux: ... but sadly publishers, lawyers and/or technical support staff said no, for various reasons. It isn't as easy as crossing titles off a shopping list.
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igrok: So what kind of legal or technical reasons prevent GOG from releasing the rest of MicroProse classics already published by Retroism on Steam? I am talking about F14 Fleet Defender, 1942 Pacific Air War and Task Force, M1A1 Tank, F-19 Stealth Fighter and Hyperspeed specifically.
two possibilities:

1. Retroism has not approached GOG about releasing them here yet.
2. Retroism approached GOG about releasing them here and GOG turned them down.

I suggest making wishlist entry for those games.
Posted December 10, 2016
Fortune cookies says: "Stop this nonsense!" No more games, people! ... wait, I mean, yes, more games, less talk about not enough games, not the right kind of games, "but these are not the games I've wanted for so long" and so on.

You know you can always go to the cellar and get a properly aged game! Dust off your C64 and give it a whirl.
Posted December 10, 2016
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Lord_Kane: 1. Retroism has not approached GOG about releasing them here yet.
2. Retroism approached GOG about releasing them here and GOG turned them down.
1. is unlikely (these games have been sold for long time already). 2. seems like it, but that's exactly the problem. Just like the OP, I prefer more old games, not less.
Posted December 10, 2016
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Lord_Kane: 1. Retroism has not approached GOG about releasing them here yet.
2. Retroism approached GOG about releasing them here and GOG turned them down.
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igrok: 1. is unlikely (these games have been sold for long time already). 2. seems like it, but that's exactly the problem. Just like the OP, I prefer more old games, not less.
like I said start a wishlist entry, gog does read the wishlist and its our only way to influence gog to persue avenues of release.
Posted December 10, 2016
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Leroux: ... but sadly publishers, lawyers and/or technical support staff said no, for various reasons. It isn't as easy as crossing titles off a shopping list.
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igrok: So what kind of legal or technical reasons prevent GOG from releasing the rest of MicroProse classics already published by Retroism on Steam? I am talking about F14 Fleet Defender, 1942 Pacific Air War and Task Force, M1A1 Tank, F-19 Stealth Fighter and Hyperspeed specifically.
I don't know, I don't claim to know these reasons, I'm just saying those who complain about the games not being here, don't know them either. It's easy for us to say that it's just because GOG is not trying hard enough, when we don't know a thing about what they did or didn't try yet.

Also, Steam allows releases of classic games that don't run on modern OS without having them fixed. Not saying this is the case here, but it might be the reason why other games are on Steam but not here (apart from DRM and other issues).
Posted December 10, 2016
To add to the long list of counter-arguments, I'll mention that in the old days of gaming (specially PC gaming, which was seen as a tiny, unprofitable niche before, say, Doom), many games had spotty IP situations with loopholes and omissions, with the publisher owning part of the rights, and the lead developer owning another; the situation on the Ultima series and Richard Garriott is an excellent example. So you can imagine how not only are older games harder to redistribute than newer-ish ones already, but the idea of bundling them together becomes a legal minefield.

As someone who played on IBM PCs from the start back in the day, I'd love to try some Amiga classics, for instance. But I wouldn't be too hopeful, all things considered.
Posted December 10, 2016
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Leroux: It's easy for us to say that it's just because GOG is not trying hard enough, when we don't know a thing about what they did or didn't try yet.
True, but my point is that there are many such classic games where there are neither legal nor technical difficulties and so are within easy reach. So either GOG doesn't want them or is too busy packaging indies or perhaps spreading their releases for future years (which I hope is the case). I know there are no technical issues (except 1942 Pacific Air War, which needs minor tweaking with sound effects settings), because I bought and tested all these games from steam.

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Lord_Kane: like I said start a wishlist entry, gog does read the wishlist and its our only way to influence gog to persue avenues of release.
They are on the wishlist already.
Post edited December 10, 2016 by igrok
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