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Posted August 18, 2015
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YaTEdiGo: Years ago we been nerds, and geeks, bullied and ridiculized by everyone for do something different, now that everyone plays, and that is a normal thing, in a hobby where almost everyone is a normal person, now is the time for politics and genders on videogames, suuuuure, because changing the world in videogames with my ass in the sofa eating Doritos is far easier.
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dragonbeast: Never forget about the Dew bro.
Ups, yeah, my fault
Posted August 18, 2015
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Shadowstalker16: You do know that 8chan has many boards like reddit right? Only one or two in there are realted to gaming, the biggest being GGHQ.
Actually, the biggest boards are:
/v/
/pol/
/b/
And THEN /GamerGateHQ/

So the biggest game-related board is the biggest board on the site.
Posted August 18, 2015
Somehow interesting, somehow strange, somehow funny. An interpreation.

I recommend watching the series from the beginning. Metal Gear Solid saw it all before it happened :).

Metal Gear Solid foresaw it all

And it is not only about SJWs, but also the rise of the media giving us humans the tools to express opinions to a greater audience..
Post edited August 18, 2015 by MaGo72
Posted August 18, 2015
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MaGo72: Somehow interesting, somehow strange, somehow funny. An interpreation.

I recommend watching the series from the beginning. Metal Gear Solid saw it all before it happened :).

Metal Gear Solid foresaw it all

And it is not only about SJWs, but also the rise of the media giving us humans the tools to express opinions to a greater audience..
It doesn´t need to be so complicated or "conspiracionist". Most part of SJWs are just a new form of neo-puritans, their deep fear of sex talk loud about their roots, making Manara´s Spiderwoman or a Scientist Pin up T-shirt much noisy that the sad story of Kayla Jean Mueller in the hands of ISIS.

It is not coincidence that many of the SJWs that you will find fighting for human rights on the Pop Culture, are later defending extreme and patriarchal "religious rights", becausethey are PURITANS.

More about radical religious extremists defended by SWJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNydyGM3fBo

Funny, or I should say VERY SAD, that both these people, religious extremists and SJWs, worry so much about CARTOONs, and make people be in fear for drawing Mohhamed or sexy women. The similitaries are so obvious that they just want to look away...
Post edited August 18, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
Posted August 18, 2015
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Vainamoinen: and of course Milo Y taking a very short break from giving kiss ass and allegedly paid coverage for Donald Trump.
I heard about Breitbart getting paid by Trump. Did #gg have anything to say about it?
Posted August 18, 2015
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Vainamoinen: and of course Milo Y taking a very short break from giving kiss ass and allegedly paid coverage for Donald Trump.
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htown1980: I heard about Breitbart getting paid by Trump. Did #gg have anything to say about it?
Until something more substantial happens, there isn't much to talk about. Some anonymous sources say that Trump paid Breitbart for positive coverage. The executive chairman of Breitbart goes on record and states "We have no financial relationship with Donald Trump as an investor, advertiser or in any other capacity at this time - nor have we ever. The insinuation that we do - or did - is a lie."

Somebody is lying, but it is impossible to tell who. The media has been doing a poor job of fact checking for the last while so I don't trust them. (Rolling Stone Rape Story; mattress girl; Tim Hunt speech) Personally until something more substantial comes out I'm playing the wait and see game.
Posted August 18, 2015
An awesome clear description about Sarkesian, (Including clear opinions about what she is doing with the money) I couldnt agree more, she looks not sincere, and has no real idea about what she is doing, because she never liked videogames. As it is clear in her own words in some old videos.

But sure, she is not here because the money... hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=28&v=OPJeqRHVShg

And the best thing is that the video is made by a black woman, so if you say she is telling lies, I will become a SJW and tell you, of course, that you are a RACIST and a MISOGYNIST, in the normal SWJ style.
Post edited August 18, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
Posted August 18, 2015
But let's look at the real issue...
What does Gamergate have to do with Donald Trump and Breitbart?
The only reason Vain and Htown are bringing this up is to in some way attack Breitbart the Enemy of aGG. Classic SJW trolling attempt.
And all this comes from one Buzzfeed article which claims to have 4 anonymous sources who have basically "heard" there "might" be a financial arrangement.

Here's the source article...
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/breitbart-staffers-believe-trump-has-given-money-to-site-for#.jd5yVy6JA

Fairly weak anonymous sourcing. Might be true, might not, but it also seems most of the 4 seem to know very little except "what they heard". But don't be deceived by the dozens of other articles reporting the same thing. You'll find they are all repeating this article from Buzzfeed and add nothing new to the discussion. Another hyped article without proof. I think this says more about Buzzfeed than Breitbart...

Edit: And if you actually read that article, look at all the mentions about the book the author is writing...I take this whole story as hype for his upcoming book and controversy sells...
Post edited August 18, 2015 by RWarehall
Posted August 18, 2015
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htown1980: I heard about Breitbart getting paid by Trump. Did #gg have anything to say about it?
Are we the watchdogs of all media now? I mean, that's kind of where I'd hoped this would end up going, but as far as I know we're still dealing with cleaning up journalism of the gaming variety.

But yeah, Breitbart is a partisan rag. Buzzfeed isn't any better, though. Did no one else see John Oliver cover "native advertising"? I say let them fight among themselves and expose their biases and shortcomings in the process. If you want a pro-GG person's opinion on the subject, though, then yeah, I find the concept of taking money for positive coverage to be bad. I'd say it's just as bad as Kuchera giving sympathetic coverage to someone he was giving money to on Patreon without disclosing it, in fact. Funny that condemning it when Trump does it is totally fine, and yet pointing out the Patreon thing got a bunch of people to accuse us of misogyny/harassment back when it was brought up.
Posted August 18, 2015
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MaGo72: Somehow interesting, somehow strange, somehow funny. An interpreation.

I recommend watching the series from the beginning. Metal Gear Solid saw it all before it happened :).

Metal Gear Solid foresaw it all

And it is not only about SJWs, but also the rise of the media giving us humans the tools to express opinions to a greater audience..
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YaTEdiGo: It doesn´t need to be so complicated or "conspiracionist". Most part of SJWs are just a new form of neo-puritans, their deep fear of sex talk loud about their roots, making Manara´s Spiderwoman or a Scientist Pin up T-shirt much noisy that the sad story of Kayla Jean Mueller in the hands of ISIS.

It is not coincidence that many of the SJWs that you will find fighting for human rights on the Pop Culture, are later defending extreme and patriarchal "religious rights", becausethey are PURITANS.

More about radical religious extremists defended by SWJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNydyGM3fBo

Funny, or I should say VERY SAD, that both these people, religious extremists and SJWs, worry so much about CARTOONs, and make people be in fear for drawing Mohhamed or sexy women. The similitaries are so obvious that they just want to look away...
Absolutely. Excellent succinct explanation regarding the somewhat bizarre unholy alliance between some Muslims and various mainstreamed authoritarian hipsters.

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RWarehall: But let's look at the real issue...
What does Gamergate have to do with Donald Trump and Breitbart?
The only reason Vain and Htown are bringing this up is to in some way attack Breitbart the Enemy of aGG. Classic SJW trolling attempt.
And all this comes from one Buzzfeed article which claims to have 4 anonymous sources who have basically "heard" there "might" be a financial arrangement.

Here's the source article...
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/breitbart-staffers-believe-trump-has-given-money-to-site-for#.jd5yVy6JA

Fairly weak anonymous sourcing. Might be true, might not, but it also seems most of the 4 seem to know very little except "what they heard". But don't be deceived by the dozens of other articles reporting the same thing. You'll find they are all repeating this article from Buzzfeed and add nothing new to the discussion. Another hyped article without proof. I think this says more about Buzzfeed than Breitbart...

Edit: And if you actually read that article, look at all the mentions about the book the author is writing...I take this whole story as hype for his upcoming book and controversy sells...
When in Weaselwordland don't believe lowgrade propaganda, beware speculative terminology!

"Breitbart Staffers Believe Trump Has Given Money To Site For Favorable Coverage"

"According to four sources with knowledge of the situation ... "

" ... said he was told by an executive ... "

" ... heard a similar description ... but didn’t know the details ... "

" ... described conversations ... "

" ... one staffer claimed to have seen documentation ... "

" ... sources spoke on condition of anonymity ... "

And The Cookie Monster Believes Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho Has Given Money To The Easter Bunny For Favorable Coverage!



But seriously, it would be exceptionally unwise to make this following statement, therefore it's almost definitely true because it invites investigation, end of story, case closed.
Breitbart executive chair Steve Bannon responded ...
“We have no financial relationship with Donald Trump as an investor, advertiser or in any other capacity at this time — nor have we ever,” Bannon said. “The insinuation that we do — or did — is a lie. Mr. Trump is a savvy and successful businessman but not the type of investor I partner with in emerging growth companies.”
Post edited August 18, 2015 by noncompliantgame
Posted August 18, 2015
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htown1980: I heard about Breitbart getting paid by Trump. Did #gg have anything to say about it?
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walpurgis8199: Until something more substantial happens, there isn't much to talk about. Some anonymous sources say that Trump paid Breitbart for positive coverage. The executive chairman of Breitbart goes on record and states "We have no financial relationship with Donald Trump as an investor, advertiser or in any other capacity at this time - nor have we ever. The insinuation that we do - or did - is a lie."

Somebody is lying, but it is impossible to tell who. The media has been doing a poor job of fact checking for the last while so I don't trust them. (Rolling Stone Rape Story; mattress girl; Tim Hunt speech) Personally until something more substantial comes out I'm playing the wait and see game.
Thank you!
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htown1980: I heard about Breitbart getting paid by Trump. Did #gg have anything to say about it?
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227: Are we the watchdogs of all media now? I mean, that's kind of where I'd hoped this would end up going, but as far as I know we're still dealing with cleaning up journalism of the gaming variety.

But yeah, Breitbart is a partisan rag. Buzzfeed isn't any better, though. Did no one else see John Oliver cover "native advertising"? I say let them fight among themselves and expose their biases and shortcomings in the process. If you want a pro-GG person's opinion on the subject, though, then yeah, I find the concept of taking money for positive coverage to be bad. I'd say it's just as bad as Kuchera giving sympathetic coverage to someone he was giving money to on Patreon without disclosing it, in fact. Funny that condemning it when Trump does it is totally fine, and yet pointing out the Patreon thing got a bunch of people to accuse us of misogyny/harassment back when it was brought up.
I'll take that extremely defensive response as a "nope"
Post edited August 18, 2015 by htown1980
Posted August 18, 2015
You know what? I'm gonna politely ask a question to all sides here. If you're in GG; you would be asked why you are in it, since the narrative has been spun the way it has. But beyond being stubborn to remain on a ''progressive'' side, what exactly is the reason for being in aGG ? The accuse GG of thing they do not do and never apologize, hence bullying and all the things they accuse us of doing they do much more frequently. So what do you guys think is the justification for being in aGG?
Posted August 18, 2015
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htown1980: I'll take that extremely defensive response as a "nope"
So we're going to completely ignore the fact that I answered your question because I happened to point out how convenient it was that you suddenly care about conflicts of interest?

I guess if you can't argue against the historical context, then the next best thing is to ignore it and pretend it never happened.
Posted August 18, 2015
Its funny how any sniff of a problem with any Gamergate supporter (true or not) and aGG wants to turn it into an issue, but if aGG does anything iffy, we are conspiracy theorists to even suggest there might be an issue.

I'll put it this way with the Trump/Breitbart thing.
The writer is promoting his book about the conservative movement. The writer talks to four people at Breitbart who are suspicious of the amount of coverage of Trump but all they know is rumor and conjecture. How is this a story? The writer clearly has a conflict, he's trying to sell his book. The four anonymous people, who knows? But it does expose a serious issue with journalism in general...

Why did all these other news sites report on this when the story clearly has a significant conflict of interest with the author and shadowy and weak facts? Apparently there is no vetting when a story is deemed worthy of gathering clicks...(very similar to Gamergate and the whole unproven harassment narrative)
Posted August 18, 2015
Post bomb threat 2nd panel footage : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEQu2hcl6Z4&feature=youtu.be
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