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I hope this isn't the last we've seen of Harry Mudd. I've always liked the sort of aloof, goofy badass. it's not a thing you see too often, and, in a way it makes a certain sense, as why wouldn't people who are capable of great things or surprising you/upsets not have some eccentricities to them?

I think it's fun to watch. think it makes for good TV/film. I hope there's more of him.
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Caesar.: Time loops have been done to death in scifi but I don't remember another episode told from the point of view of someone who isn't the one reliving time.
Exactly. All the important stuff happens off-screen with a character we barely see. This premise really isn't built for a show that centres around a single protagonist.
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LootHunter: Well, since Mudd is a con-man, he could somehow erase it. Also, remember that the whole information about "shroom drive" is top-secret (like Section 31 level) and doesn't last up to TOS. So it's quite probable that Kirk and others don't have a clue about history of USS Discovery, Mudd included.
The detail of the incident might be classified, but not everything. After all, the fact he's a dangerous killer, basically a psycho going by this episode, who almost took over a spaceship, is vital information for anyone who might encounter him.

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johnnygoging: I hope this isn't the last we've seen of Harry Mudd. I've always liked the sort of aloof, goofy badass. it's not a thing you see too often, and, in a way it makes a certain sense, as why wouldn't people who are capable of great things or surprising you/upsets not have some eccentricities to them?

I think it's fun to watch. think it makes for good TV/film. I hope there's more of him.
I like the character, I even like the actor they chose to play him, even though he's too old, but I don't like the way the show is using him. Like everything in Discovery, it's too dark and violent. But I'd be totally on board if Mudd was to be the villain in another movie with the "Abrams" cast, this time done as a kind of heist movie perhaps, or something like 48 Hours in Spaaaaaace.
Post edited November 02, 2017 by Breja
Watched Episode 8. It's plot consists of two subplots. One is more stupid than another.

Seriously, the first story about Burnam and Co recruiting aliens with a "Tree of Harmony" only ends with aliens summon klingons, which is rather stupid desicion, since aliens clearly learned what kilngons are capable of directly from Saru's mind.

But it's the second story about captured admiral and female klingon defector is the most convoluted and inconsistent one. I can't even begin to tell where it's problems with logic start.
I enjoyed Story A. The concept of a civilization which just can't understand that someone, given the chance of harmony, won't take it, is very intriguing. Or maybe they just plan to use their mind-control abilities to force Klingons into peace. Or maybe they are not even aware about their own powers and assume everybody acts like Saru. We also saw more about the Kelpians biology. I wish the romance plot didn't feel so rushed, but that's what you get with shorter seasons.

Story B was convoluted. At first I really like how you couldn't tell if the female Klingon (I'm terrible for non-regular character names) was really helping the Admiral or gaining her trust to strike later. And then all of a sudden she is discovered and the Admiral is dead (or is she?). Since it's a two-parter, I hope next episode brings some light, so I will hold my judgement for a bit.

There was actually a Story C, the two scenes between Stamets and Tilly. I really liked them because they showed how Stamets is genuinely concerned about his partner and the consequences of officially disclosing his condition, and how Tilly is able to be conforting and also take charge of the situation. Discovery needs these bits of character development.
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Caesar.: I enjoyed Story A. The concept of a civilization which just can't understand that someone, given the chance of harmony, won't take it, is very intriguing. Or maybe they just plan to use their mind-control abilities to force Klingons into peace.
Ok, I haven't seen it yet (I'm busy finishing a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better show called The Sandbaggers) but are we dealing with just a total rip-off of Errand of Mercy from TOS here? Because that's essentially what everything I've heard about this episode sounds like.
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Caesar.: I enjoyed Story A. The concept of a civilization which just can't understand that someone, given the chance of harmony, won't take it, is very intriguing. Or maybe they just plan to use their mind-control abilities to force Klingons into peace.
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Breja: Ok, I haven't seen it yet (I'm busy finishing a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better show called The Sandbaggers) but are we dealing with just a total rip-off of Errand of Mercy from TOS here? Because that's essentially what everything I've heard about this episode sounds like.
I can't really answer that question since I have watched very limited TOS. But a glance at the wiki doesn't remind me of the new episode, other than a mention to pacifism... and that's already a bit of a stretch.

What I can say is that visually it was stunning. I don't remember TV Star Trek ever looking that good.
Post edited November 10, 2017 by Caesar.
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Breja: are we dealing with just a total rip-off of Errand of Mercy from TOS here?
Well, the aliens definitely want to do the same thing as oranians. But they obviously don't have the same level of power. I mean, if they have and manage to pull off a peace treaty - that would be a rip-off. Though the preview suggests that it would be Discovery crew, who would protect the aliens. Anyway, your decision to wait until the next episode is the wise one.
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Caesar.: a glance at the wiki doesn't remind me of the new episode, other than a mention to pacifism...
And human-klingon war. :P
Post edited November 10, 2017 by LootHunter
Ok. Ninth, semi-final episode of Star Trek: Discovery has "aired". And it was... meh.
Depends what happens I guess, if it leads to a total alternative universe(s) then they don't have to be bound by any historic limitations.

I find it enjoyable enough to watch personally, though I could've done without the romance. Too early for that imo.
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Pheace: I find it enjoyable enough to watch personally, though I could've done without the romance.
Me too, but that was their "progressive" feature that was havily advertized. And Discovery creators consider it their achievement.
Well, I'm back to torturing myself with Discovery. Just saw episode 8, and my god was it boring. I guess maybe boring is better than infuriating, but not by much. There's really not much to talk about. Not much happened, and the characters are all so bland and uninteresting... I just don't care about Burnham or Tyler or even Saru. I truly would not care for a second if any or all them died. Klingons are as stiff and awkward as ever. That's pretty much it. There are some things I could nitpick at, but Im way to bored to bother.
I didn't really like it. not enjoying the whole thing they're doing. could used not to see that bedroom scene. could used not to have that episode on the series honestly.
Enjoying the series so far. It's not perfect by any means, but I'm looking forward to each new episode.
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Breja: Well, I'm back to torturing myself with Discovery.
Hehe! It's almost like a drug and then it slowly but painfully/comfortably becomes yet another case of the classic Stockholm syndrome:-)

After the last episode I'm just curious to see what kind of discoveries they'll make, but I almost had lost every hope that it will would be better. Orville is such a joy in comparison.

EDIT: No, come to think of it, It won't get better...
Post edited November 16, 2017 by sanscript