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_Line: Oh yeah, you're right. It wasn't Canada, it was California. Thanks for correcting me.

What's wrong with California reputation for gaming development?

I mean, it's weird for a Japanese based company to just move to another country like this, specially Sony, but why is this a bad thing?
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BanditKeith2: Long story short its got a rep of being the for lack of a better term/phrasing ''real life tumbler/twitter'' for quite awhile awhile now and being loaded with specific idealogical driven sort that is against many themes and concepts this side of idealogy used to be all for till they became a version of what they fought against.. So um ya long story short California has a rep of atleast those in charge of things and several random folks being extremists on some ideological bearing most thats inherintly harmful to entertainment as a whole for atleast 2 decades now .. Which is why many has drawn connections to when companies or atleast a branch of a company moves to California similar timeframes when moronic choices and running of vast amount of paying consumers happen

Note I ain't saying what the idealogical bearings are for the simple fact it seems what America labels as this or that tends to be different or flipped in other country's so ya
Oh I understand now. Thanks for the explanation.
Well, Sony was kinda moving this way before with some exclusives.
But anyway, better we end this topic here before it gets too controversial for the sake of forum rules. lol
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Sony suckles on SJW loans(cdpr looks like it too) and Microsoft should have been banned from entering the console market.
Also Sega is claimed to have sold their arcade section away.
Not that it matters when it comes to DRM-free gaming. :) Besides, this move shows that Microsoft plays currently in a different league than Sony. Compare the two acquisitions: Activision Blizzard vs Bungie... The fate of Bungie is however interesting. I wonder how long it'll take for them to declare another independence. :)
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BanditKeith2: Long story short its got a rep of being the for lack of a better term/phrasing ''real life tumbler/twitter'' for quite awhile awhile now and being loaded with specific idealogical driven sort that is against many themes and concepts this side of idealogy used to be all for till they became a version of what they fought against.. So um ya long story short California has a rep of atleast those in charge of things and several random folks being extremists on some ideological bearing most thats inherintly harmful to entertainment as a whole for atleast 2 decades now .. Which is why many has drawn connections to when companies or atleast a branch of a company moves to California similar timeframes when moronic choices and running of vast amount of paying consumers happen

Note I ain't saying what the idealogical bearings are for the simple fact it seems what America labels as this or that tends to be different or flipped in other country's so ya
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_Line: Oh I understand now. Thanks for the explanation.
Well, Sony was kinda moving this way before with some exclusives.
But anyway, better we end this topic here before it gets too controversial for the sake of forum rules. lol
Agreed just seeing as you didn't get the problem despite my bad and vague way of explaining it( both do to being sick and tired in real life but also to not delve into you know politics specifics obviously and the details of it doesn't matter just that its bad for games as a whole) I wanted to answer your question as best as I could

Still this is why I don't think Sony acquired by Bungie or atleast tried to and any other companies/studio's they might acquire will ever be good news any time soon
Cool. Oni rerelease when? Or is that owned by Take-Two...
Marathon: The Black Abyss on PS5 and Windows 10/11 (and 7) as timed exclusive on super cool Bungie's internal engine, cutscenes with best 3D animation and choreography.

In my opinion original Marathon games are mediocre at best, Marathon 2 was decent, the only really good part of first 2 games would be monologues from Durandal. But the thought that Sony might just invest a ton of money into remaking some old classics from Bungie is exciting.

But what do I know, I would negotiate a deal with 2K and get back all the rights to Myth franchise and then create a clone of God of War in the world of Myth, for instance playing as Berserker with abilities and such, or even playing as different type or warriors during the single/player coop.

Ah who needs it, the game for a gamer.
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M3troid: No more Halo on XBOX, then?
Nah. I don't think Bungie ever owned the IP, and the last few Halo games weren't made by Bungie anyway.
Sony says they aren't done w/ acquiring studios yet either, as there will be more to come:
https://www.ign.com/articles/sony-playstation-more-acquisitions-coming-after-bungie
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Enebias: Microsoft and Sony are measuring who has it longest.

Prepare for a machine gun discharge of buy-outs.
Meh - $3.6bn.

Hardly worth getting out of bed for compared to the $67bn spaffed up the wall on Activision.
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_Line: I mean, it's weird for a Japanese based company to just move to another country like this, specially Sony, but why is this a bad thing?
It was only the HQ of their gaming division that got restructured and moved in 2016. BanditKeith2 already mentioned some things but an example would be that in 2018 they forced Japanese developers to submit their games + papers (in English) also to the US division, so that it could be screened there for any content etc that they might dislike, even if the game was only to be released in Japan. Obviously, this creates a problem, as it forces Japanese developers to submit to two "authorities" which adds extra work and then also in Enflish which they might not know + timezone differences and the like...and having someone from outside telling you how to do things, despite you only wanting to release it in Japan, well, not ideal. Needless to say, some smaller developers got rather pissed and after they fulfilled their contract, they said that they would move away from the Playstation (probably towards the Switch, as there was less censorship than on Sony's platform (which is rather funny)).

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MysterD: Sony says they aren't done w/ acquiring studios yet either, as there will be more to come:
https://www.ign.com/articles/sony-playstation-more-acquisitions-coming-after-bungie
As long as nobody touches Sega, I don't care. They might be garbage now, but 90s/early 00s Sega will always stay in my heart.
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_Line: I mean, it's weird for a Japanese based company to just move to another country like this, specially Sony, but why is this a bad thing?
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Lucumo: It was only the HQ of their gaming division that got restructured and moved in 2016. BanditKeith2 already mentioned some things but an example would be that in 2018 they forced Japanese developers to submit their games + papers (in English) also to the US division, so that it could be screened there for any content etc that they might dislike, even if the game was only to be released in Japan. Obviously, this creates a problem, as it forces Japanese developers to submit to two "authorities" which adds extra work and then also in Enflish which they might not know + timezone differences and the like...and having someone from outside telling you how to do things, despite you only wanting to release it in Japan, well, not ideal. Needless to say, some smaller developers got rather pissed and after they fulfilled their contract, they said that they would move away from the Playstation (probably towards the Switch, as there was less censorship than on Sony's platform (which is rather funny)).

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MysterD: Sony says they aren't done w/ acquiring studios yet either, as there will be more to come:
https://www.ign.com/articles/sony-playstation-more-acquisitions-coming-after-bungie
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Lucumo: As long as nobody touches Sega, I don't care. They might be garbage now, but 90s/early 00s Sega will always stay in my heart.
Oh God yes thats the irony here as for example of how things flipped a game named ''20 Ladies'' was allowed on Switch uncensored yet Sonys guidelines made it so it was censored so bad it was changed to'' 20 Bunnies'' On PlayStation

I bring that us as a prime example as its ironic in the fact Nitendo used to be the over censor happy sort and Sony was against Censorship.. And now its the reverse .. Note I ain't perverted but its just a prime example of how Sonys guidelines and rules changed aswell as Nitendos Heres a link about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJsIDqGypB8
Post edited February 01, 2022 by BanditKeith2
The Sony acquisition makes sense although have a lot to talk about regarding Sony moving their HQ to California.

Acquiring Bungie makes sense given Sony's current corporate strategy as well as Microsoft's recent actions. Although acquisitions take quite a while so this was being discussed far before the MS-Activision acquisition was announced, they likely both knew its a race to buy studios.

Sony has dominant market share in both Asia and Europe and so has focused all in on the US, hence why they moved their HQ to California, basically discarded the Japan market, and put all their eggs in the US. Their games are also becoming more "US-friendly" as a result with a focus on action games and actionizing past games to appeal to the US market. Since the Activision acquisition basically guarantees CoD is Xbox exclusive (and PC) regardless of what the fanboys say, Sony needs a big FPS to remain competitive so announcing Bungie makes sense (Halo was the FPS to beat when it was first released).

This move makes sense although I have a lot of qualms with Sony's current corporate strategy and think the PS5 is going to be the "worse" than PS4. MS is on a shopping spree and using that Office money to buy up studios and you bet those games are going to be exclusive. It makes no sense for MS to shill out billions of dollars for Activision-Blizzard and still release their new games on their competitors platform. Its also not strange for franchises to become console specific (Bayonetta when Nintendo saved Platinum by continuing to invest in them). The big games that were available to the PS4 (Skyrim, CoD, the Ass Creeds, Fallouts, etc.) wont be on the PS5 or at least be heavily delayed. Regardless of your personal opinion on these games (im not really a fan of many of them), they are still top sellers, especially to the more casual audience.
Just when I thought the studio buy-outs had started to fizzle out, Microsoft buys Activision Blizzard and Sony Bungie.

They do seem to be aiming for different markets though. Microsoft focusing on PC and its integration with the Xbox, while Sony will focus on their console. Sony selling its exclusives on PC is only a temporary thing in my opinion, they will go back to being Playstation-only as soon as their hardware supply-chain is closer to pre-pandemic levels and they are shipping out PS5's en masse. I refuse to use the Microsoft Store, but think Microsoft will be more willing to sell their flagship tites on Steam than Sony will be in the future. None of their new games will be on GOG in the future.

Activision is the interesting one to me, to see what happens with their old games. It would be a strange business decision to keep the old games exclusive, since their hipster customers on Xbox and Microsoft Store are not going to give a damn about some old games. Their chances of earning something from these old games is higher if they are multi-platform (i.e. Microsoft Store, Steam, GOG).
Post edited February 01, 2022 by 72_hour_Richard
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72_hour_Richard: Just when I thought the studio buy-outs had started to fizzle out, Microsoft buys Activision Blizzard and Sony Bungie.

They do seem to be aiming for different markets though. Microsoft focusing on PC and its integration with the Xbox, while Sony will focus on their console. Sony selling its exclusives on PC is only a temporary thing in my opinion, they will go back to being Playstation-only as soon as their hardware supply-chain is closer to pre-pandemic levels and they are shipping out PS5's en masse. I refuse to use the Microsoft Store, but think Microsoft will be more willing to sell their flagship tites on Steam than Sony will be in the future. None of their new games will be on GOG in the future.

Activision is the interesting one to me, to see what happens with their old games. It would be a strange business decision to keep the old games exclusive, since their hipster customers on Xbox and Microsoft Store are not going to give a damn about some old games. Their chances of earning something from these old games is higher if they are multi-platform (i.e. Microsoft Store, Steam, GOG).
I disagree on the ''Sony going back to not porting games to pc'' fact as the simple fact is they got a Playstation pc logo now they made after afew ports and they even bought abit after afew ports a studio that specializes in porting gamins to other platforms .. so while I do believe they'll slow the porting way down I believe they will keep the porting up even if they stick to older PlayStation console games to port rather then ps4 or ps5 games as a whole seeing as apparently its easy enough to release games cross gen for the ps4 and ps5 at this time

I agree otherwise on your points here
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72_hour_Richard: Just when I thought the studio buy-outs had started to fizzle out, Microsoft buys Activision Blizzard and Sony Bungie.

They do seem to be aiming for different markets though. Microsoft focusing on PC and its integration with the Xbox, while Sony will focus on their console. Sony selling its exclusives on PC is only a temporary thing in my opinion, they will go back to being Playstation-only as soon as their hardware supply-chain is closer to pre-pandemic levels and they are shipping out PS5's en masse. I refuse to use the Microsoft Store, but think Microsoft will be more willing to sell their flagship tites on Steam than Sony will be in the future. None of their new games will be on GOG in the future.

Activision is the interesting one to me, to see what happens with their old games. It would be a strange business decision to keep the old games exclusive, since their hipster customers on Xbox and Microsoft Store are not going to give a damn about some old games. Their chances of earning something from these old games is higher if they are multi-platform (i.e. Microsoft Store, Steam, GOG).
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BanditKeith2: I disagree on the ''Sony going back to not porting games to pc'' fact as the simple fact is they got a Playstation pc logo now they made after afew ports and they even bought abit after afew ports a studio that specializes in porting gamins to other platforms .. so while I do believe they'll slow the porting way down I believe they will keep the porting up even if they stick to older PlayStation console games to port rather then ps4 or ps5 games as a whole seeing as apparently its easy enough to release games cross gen for the ps4 and ps5 at this time

I agree otherwise on your points here
Yeah I can see Sony porting their old games to PC, I did not really think of those, my mind was set on their new games. I think with their supply problems in recent years they've realized they need a backup plan, an extra source of income. Having PC porting as an available option covers that base. To keep it active as an option they need to release the occassional PC port, and their old games would fill that need. So I agree that their porting efforts might not be dead.