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My view on this may be somewhat superficial since I haven't been around much lately, but all I saw was "I'll lock this now" and "Delete that or else" without much explanation and seemed quite condescending especcially since using the banhammer on whole threads (by locking) isn't the way to go imho since it also cuts off a lot of people who didn't break any rules.

I'm actually surprised this thread stayed civil so far, maybe something has changed to the better nonetheless?
Excuse my scepticism but some things point in the wrong direction, especcially if authoritarian people with no tolerance toward any other opinion than the own one have any say in anything here, which they seem to gain.
Post edited March 11, 2017 by Klumpen0815
the "no explanation" is to be expected. it is rather a mandatory component of the process, for the sake of functioning (or else would always be stuck in endless argument), though i admit and agree it is frustrating
but however, afaic, it comes with an expected effect of "case court-ruling" not sure of correct words order)
meaning that after a moderation decision, users may legitimaly expect that similar future issues meet same ruling outcome

now for the perceivedly condescending tone, this however could be an element to watch about (it is though partly dependent on the perceiving side... but as they say in my country "there's no smoke without fire")
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Okay, someone better explain how this gamer fursecution thing works, because I want to join in.
I understand that Gog has a right to hire whoever they want even after advertising the job position on the forum and giving people hope that someone from the community could get the job.


However, what I don't understand is why can't they just get rid of the rep system or at least allow people to post links even after they have gone down in rep due to troll abuse.
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doctorsinister: what I don't understand is why can't they just get rid of the rep system
Use this as a client side solution while GOG looks into what will be done for the rep system.

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doctorsinister: or at least allow people to post links even after they have gone down in rep due to troll abuse.
Use quote tags for links.
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Klumpen0815: What exactly was involved in the hiring process?
I'd like a bit transparency from a site dedicated to idealist (DRM-free) gaming.
Be willing to move to Poland and don't be a niche. Those are the only 2 requirements. It's not like anyone's jumping over each other to work at GOG, or that they're so picky that they expect people to meet everything to the complete standard. Being willing to move to Poland counters any lack of qualifications for the majority of positions.
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Painted_Doll: Community Manager ? Who ? Where ? In here ?
Fables22, the new mod/manager/forum god/etc. that wants to control the uncontrollable that is the GOG general discussions community. So basically he gets paid to pretend to be working like everyone else does. A few announcement posts here, a couple of question threads/twitch streams there, answer some pms, and done.

Ciri was probably the shortest lived CM here. I guess she got moved to another department that has actual work.
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zeogold: Drew the short straw.
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tinyE: Or lost a bet with god.
Even Old Testament God might not be that harsh.
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MaximumBunny: Be willing to move to Poland and don't be a niche. Those are the only 2 requirements. It's not like anyone's jumping over each other to work at GOG, or that they're so picky that they expect people to meet everything to the complete standard. Being willing to move to Poland counters any lack of qualifications for the majority of positions. Fables22, the new mod/manager/forum god/etc. that wants to control the uncontrollable that is the GOG general discussions community. So basically he gets paid to pretend to be working like everyone else does. A few announcement posts here, a couple of question threads/twitch streams there, answer some pms, and done.

Ciri was probably the shortest lived CM here. I guess she got moved to another department that has actual work.
Thanks for the explanation .
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tinyE: Or lost a bet with god.
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Marioface5: Even Old Testament God might not be that harsh.
you mean "the one who required Abraham to kill his own son as sacrifice and mark of faith/trust" ?
maybe you're right then
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Marioface5: Even Old Testament God might not be that harsh.
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Djaron: you mean "the one who required Abraham to kill his own son as sacrifice and mark of faith/trust" ?
maybe you're right then
Abraham said up to god, 'where you want this killin' done?'
god said down to Abraham, 'out on highway 61'.
I know how the new community manager was chosen. A higher ranking GOG employee contacted her and said "I've decided that you're the new community manager". Easy to understand really. It's not a democratically elected position or anything, it is an assigned post.
While my stance on the current community manager is neutral, with a bit of distrust due to my tendency to distrust authority in general. I do consider it necessary for a community manager to be both neutral and in touch with the audience. Both far right and far left ideologues have no place as community managers, and non gamers are slightly less fit to manage a forum about video games than gamers. However I do not believe our current community manager is either an ideologue in any political position or a complete non gamer. I hope I will not be proven wrong in the future.
After reading this thread I'm slightly optimistic.
Let's just hope closing threads won't be the "solution" to every problem around here.
It would still be nice to have someone who has some clue about gaming although it doesn't seem to be necessary.
Post edited March 15, 2017 by Klumpen0815
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So the story goes like this: You hire a female community manager whose entire life circles about video games. She's literally covered in gaming tattoos. She speaks three languages fluently, including English and Japanese, and is of course aspiring to be a game artist in the future. Back in high school she collected the memory cards from fellow pupils to level up their Final Fantasy VII characters for a bit of cash. She's even backed your Kickstarter and submitted fan art for the project as well. Fucking great choice for community management, right? And, I mean, you're not paying her much for a few hours part-time work. But noes. Because her fan art showed a female protagonist, people are starting to pile up conspiracy nonsense immediately, and I mean immediately after her announcement as community manager, and every community effort afterwards goes towards justifying the prejudices until finally, finally you have to let her go.

Are we, like, trying to do a repeat performance here? 'Cause I'm not playing.

Fables has literally done stellar work here, and I desperately hope she will continue her path in exactly the way she started it.

And, yes, I myself have edited a post of mine because she asked me to. Boo-hoo, I'm oppressed and freeze peach.
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Klumpen0815: From what I gathered here and there it's a non-gamer with strong biases (maybe even especially against gamers).
That would be quite absurd seeing that we're all gamers.
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Klumpen0815: What exactly was involved in the hiring process?
Are you reviewing her application now in order to decide after the fact if she's qualified? That's great of you. While we're at it, can we review Marcin Iwiński's exact qualifications too? I'm not entirely sure he's a "real gamer". Let's demand he tell us his favorite games and then decide whether he's lying to save his hide.
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Klumpen0815: Why did JudasIscariot never get this title officially?
The only thing Judas did was to occasionally close a thread that went completely haywire (or at least about 10% of the completely haywire threads). In every other case, he went with the "hands off" policy that dragged the forum further in the swamp all the while being employed at GOG in a completely different professional capacity.

And I guess with his experience with this community, the last thing he wants to be in his life is to be the dedicated GOG community manager.

There, all answered. 5 rep please. :)
Post edited March 15, 2017 by Vainamoinen