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i have had the worst insomnia lately! has anyone else? it hits me particularly hard on sunday nights and was never a huge problem before (i was never a super deep sleeper though).

i'll toss and turn for hours thinking about all manner of things: mortal kombat 2, how tragically underrated the starship troopers movie was, how i never was able to access the minus world in super mario bros (even after i learned how), etc.

and then, an hour or two before i have to get up for work i slowly begin to segue into a surface-level sleep and then BAM my alarm goes off.
Usual suggestions revolve around avoiding screen light (mobile phone, computer monitor) during the hour that precedes sleep, lowering the temperature, avoiding coffee, sugar and cocaine before bed, thinking abot calm faraway places, or reading a super boring (but not infuriatingly boring) book. Or listening to long talkative scientific podcasts.

Also the world not being absolutely atrociously horribly terrible and evil and cataclysmic all the time would help sleep too.
Post edited February 11, 2019 by Telika
Too bloody HOT to sleep, it's like 30°C in my room and 1:30 am
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Telika: Usual suggestions revolve around avoiding screen light (mobile phone, computer monitor) during the hour that precedes sleep, lowering the temperature, avoiding coffee, sugar and cocaine before bed, thinking abot calm faraway places, or reading a super boring (but not infuriatingly boring) book. Or listening to long talkative scientific podcasts.

Also the world not being absolutely atrociously horribly terrible and evil and cataclysmic all the time would help sleep too.
Do you know what should I do after waking up at 3 a.m and feeling I'm not sleepy at all? The problem is that I have to wake up at 6 and work for 12 hours then, so I need more than 4 hours of sleep.
Seems you know about sleeping well more then I do, that's why asking. Thanks.
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Telika: Usual suggestions revolve around avoiding screen light (mobile phone, computer monitor) during the hour that precedes sleep, lowering the temperature, avoiding coffee, sugar and cocaine before bed, thinking abot calm faraway places, or reading a super boring (but not infuriatingly boring) book. Or listening to long talkative scientific podcasts.

Also the world not being absolutely atrociously horribly terrible and evil and cataclysmic all the time would help sleep too.
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adelle2505: Do you know what should I do after waking up at 3 a.m and feeling I'm not sleepy at all? The problem is that I have to wake up at 6 and work for 12 hours then, so I need more than 4 hours of sleep.
Seems you know about sleeping well more then I do, that's why asking. Thanks.
Ah no. I know the theory (I repeat what people say), but I'm not very good at it in practice. Because DAMN, the thought monsters that bite me awake at 3 am have solid jaws. And the ticking clock makes it worse. I usually just go "fuck that, sleep-deprived day it is, then". Paradoxically, this fatalism helps gather a little more sleep sometimes. Having functionned a few days without sleep at all, and thus having the memory that "it's just that", that's it's do-able, is a bit calming. But that's all. I usually consider my insomnia causes to be serious and respectable enough to not fight them too much.

Usually, such periods of life just disjoin my sleep. I can fall asleep for an hour or so in the evening, especially after a glass of alcohol on an empty stomach. This also alleviates some stress : at 3 am, I calculate my missing sleeping hours by taking in account such little bonus moments taken at 7 pm, and, while not ideal, it does help me treat it as survivable.

I also know that we're supposed to not try to sleep forcefully, when we wake up like that, but make a break, have a bit of nocturnal reading or writing (not on a screen, though). I seldom do that, as it sounds too counter-intuitive. But, hey, that's what we're told.

Ah, and I've turned on the "blue light" filter on my mobile phone. I think it helped, although it may be a coincidence.

For some reason, The Guardian LOVES to publish pieces about insomnia. Put "insomnia" or "sleep" in their search bar, you'll get thousands of articles and how-to. They tend to recycle the same advices, but, if anything, they are quite soothing to read.

Look at that. At two days of interval :

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/feb/11/how-busy-famous-people-manage-sleep-cope-work-odd-hours

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/feb/09/bedtime-routines-five-ways-to-get-a-good-nights-sleep

They're completely obsessed.
I have read somewhere the human body is not on a
24hr clock, but abit longer Circadian rythmn disorder.

Some are more prone to this, thus insomnia.
You have to stay up for a day to "reset" your internal clock.

The older I get, this comes into play. But when you have to
be up and chipper for work, it creates havoc. If I can't sleep,
I usually just get up and sit by the fire and read or play with
the computer. Some TV shows are so boring, they put you
to sleep.

Good luck
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Telika: Usual suggestions revolve around avoiding... cocaine
Are you insinuating something about our resident dawg?

Come on dawg, you letting me outta the loop?
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fortune_p_dawg: how tragically underrated the starship troopers movie was
I thought it was criticised for being "fascist", but even many critics acknowledged its aesthetic qualities (which supposedly made it all the more dangerous, because it made "fascism" look good or whatever).
As for insomnia, no, don't have that...have an extremely unhealthy sleeping cycle though.
Been there done that! Try to keep a regular sleep schedule but if you can't sleep then get out of bed and do something that doesn't involve screens but something fairly boring. Also a hot bath and try to avoid sex before sleep.

I hate that I can't game when I get very sleepy from lack of sleep and yet still have problems falling asleep at night. It sucks but usually go away after a few days (going on day 3 now).

I want to game but fucking can't and it sucks ass.
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adelle2505: Do you know what should I do after waking up at 3 a.m and feeling I'm not sleepy at all? The problem is that I have to wake up at 6 and work for 12 hours then, so I need more than 4 hours of sleep.
Seems you know about sleeping well more then I do, that's why asking. Thanks.
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Telika: Ah no. I know the theory (I repeat what people say), but I'm not very good at it in practice. Because DAMN, the thought monsters that bite me awake at 3 am have solid jaws. And the ticking clock makes it worse. I usually just go "fuck that, sleep-deprived day it is, then". Paradoxically, this fatalism helps gather a little more sleep sometimes. Having functionned a few days without sleep at all, and thus having the memory that "it's just that", that's it's do-able, is a bit calming. But that's all. I usually consider my insomnia causes to be serious and respectable enough to not fight them too much.

Usually, such periods of life just disjoin my sleep. I can fall asleep for an hour or so in the evening, especially after a glass of alcohol on an empty stomach. This also alleviates some stress : at 3 am, I calculate my missing sleeping hours by taking in account such little bonus moments taken at 7 pm, and, while not ideal, it does help me treat it as survivable.

I also know that we're supposed to not try to sleep forcefully, when we wake up like that, but make a break, have a bit of nocturnal reading or writing (not on a screen, though). I seldom do that, as it sounds too counter-intuitive. But, hey, that's what we're told.

Ah, and I've turned on the "blue light" filter on my mobile phone. I think it helped, although it may be a coincidence.

For some reason, The Guardian LOVES to publish pieces about insomnia. Put "insomnia" or "sleep" in their search bar, you'll get thousands of articles and how-to. They tend to recycle the same advices, but, if anything, they are quite soothing to read.

Look at that. At two days of interval :

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/feb/11/how-busy-famous-people-manage-sleep-cope-work-odd-hours

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/feb/09/bedtime-routines-five-ways-to-get-a-good-nights-sleep

They're completely obsessed.
yeah, i find, watching the clock or checking my phone to see how much time i have left until i have to wake makes it even worse.

i only do caffeine in the mornings and i stay away from all sugar that doesn't come from fruit. i think the screen time thing is a very valid point, particularly as it applies to phones. when i cut myself off a few hours before bed; no computers, no phones, maybe some reading, i do tend to fall asleep a bit better.
As someone who has had problems with sleep for a very long time, I can recommend melatonin capsules. It's natural and safe "sleep hormone" that makes it easier to fall asleep. It's not as effective as sleeping pills, but it's probably the most effective remedy out there that's also safe to consume.
Post edited February 11, 2019 by user deleted
I for one am still not convinced that this is the dream and what we perceive as dreams are actual reality.
Post edited February 11, 2019 by tinyE
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fortune_p_dawg: i have had the worst insomnia lately! has anyone else? it hits me particularly hard on sunday nights and was never a huge problem before (i was never a super deep sleeper though).

i'll toss and turn for hours thinking about all manner of things: mortal kombat 2, how tragically underrated the starship troopers movie was, how i never was able to access the minus world in super mario bros (even after i learned how), etc.

and then, an hour or two before i have to get up for work i slowly begin to segue into a surface-level sleep and then BAM my alarm goes off.
In case you have an b12 deficiency; take the supplements in the morning or during the day; not the evening. These keep me awake.
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Telika: Usual suggestions revolve around avoiding... cocaine
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joppo: Are you insinuating something about our resident dawg?

Come on dawg, you letting me outta the loop?
I think copious sprout consumption is the cause of this malady.
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tinyE: I for one am still not convinced that this is the dream and when we perceive as dreams are actual reality.
Actually, both states of being are. Occasionally one a bit less obvious though so they could keep ppl guessing between the two without realizing that in tr