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Tallima: It's like we're all Shallow Hal, it just takes us some time to get there.

I wonder how fast that can work. Can an unattractive videogame character be attractive from qualities?

Would it not be interesting to have the actual character model change as a relationship evolved?
That'd be pretty cool. It would have to be subtle though. Unnoticeable in increments.

But how would it change? More/Less attractive?

Interesting idea.

I do agree that the more we get to know someone, the outside matters much less. I'm glad it's that way and not the opposite.
Eh, I thought all children were automatically told to keep their mouths shut at all times, including when chewing?
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timppu: That kinda sounds like when I was in a (technology) university. 95% of the people in the campus were young men, so the few women that studied there really had the time of their lives, getting attention from lots of male students.

Then again it wasn't so bad because elsewhere in the city (and nearby cities) there certainly were lots of ladies. It was not unusual that the university students would arrange parties together with other universities and schools where most students were women (like nurses etc.). I guess in Seattle there is no such option.
There's a lot of similarities there, you see the same thing in colleges here that are skewed one way or the other. It's probably biologically based because you see the same sort of monstrous abuse of the opposite sex pretty much whenever there's a significant gap in available partners.

It doesn't even take that much of a skew either. Just a few percentage points can do it. And ultimately, the men never win. It might make it easier to get a girlfriend or potentially wife, but the moment you're out of that environment, the calculations change and you can find yourself dumped or divorced for no particular reason.

It mostly comes down to perceived value on the sexual market place and it's worse when the women are in demand because they'll hold out too long and basically screw everybody over. Most days I get a lot of women that are just too old for me trying to get my attention. Had I met them 10 years ago, I might have chosen them. But now they're really too old which puts a massive amount of pressure on me and if I were OK with a partnership without children I wouldn't be putting up with women at all. It's just not worth it.

And as I indicated in my first post, if people are being this picky, it means that things are probably either relatively neutral or outright stacked in favor of whatever sex is being picky as in many places you just don't get to throw away perfectly good matches just because they aren't perfect and still have anybody left. Just tossing out matches with women that have kids and are under 35 alone leaves very few possibilities around here.
We all have our own little quirks and things that some might find annoying or gross, and others may find them cute and attractive. For me, there are two main things I can think of that are 100% deal breakers: Smoking and fake physical features (especially fake tacky nails and fake boobs, these are instant turn-offs for me).
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Qwertyman: fake physical features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BH9yUFxRV4

Does Europe have this kind of crap!? XD
Post edited September 30, 2018 by tinyE
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Qwertyman: We all have our own little quirks and things that some might find annoying or gross, and others may find them cute and attractive. For me, there are two main things I can think of that are 100% deal breakers: Smoking and fake physical features (especially fake tacky nails and fake boobs, these are instant turn-offs for me).
Yep, fake or long (seriously, do some basic body hygiene) fingernails rank among the worst things a girl could have. Smoking is obviously a no-go as well.
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Qwertyman: We all have our own little quirks and things that some might find annoying or gross, and others may find them cute and attractive. For me, there are two main things I can think of that are 100% deal breakers: Smoking and fake physical features (especially fake tacky nails and fake boobs, these are instant turn-offs for me).
At least those are things people can do something about. Although, undoing a boob job is a bit more involved.

I can't say that I disagree. When I'm looking at profile pictures on dating sites, having obviously fake hair or fake nails suggests that we probably don't share common values. And yes, I do realize that I'm being mildly shallow there, but a lot of the things I like to do don't mix well with those sorts of things.
Snap judgements are pretty normal. Everyone does it and it's hard to stop the ol' brain from doing so once it becomes a habit. Chewing with your mouth open is frigging annoying for not only women, but anyone that does it, so it's not so much a deal breaker, but something that I'd file away in a mental list of "things about person X or Y, that I find annoying."

That said, I also keep a mental list for myself full of things that people have said they found annoying about me or my personality. I don't always conform myself, but if I'm around that person, I do try to tone it down a little.

Real deal breakers for me don't happen unless I get to know that person, and I start seeing warning signs in how they talk about themselves, others, exes, life, goals, yada yada. Don't get me wrong, if you have poor personal hygiene, I'm gonna be turned off at first, but I also recognize that maybe I just caught you at a bad time, unless you're always a sloppy mess, in which case, becomes a deal breaker.
The way I see it, there is beauty and there is elegance. Beauty is a static thing where elegance has more of a dynamic things. I have looked at a friend, simply standing at the stop light, and her pose was clearly distinct. I have looked at another friend, walking in the street, and she was distinctively not elegant, she walked more like a man. What you experienced was a clear lack of elegance from a clearly beautiful girl. It is not uncommon for these things to go hand in hand.

I believe we are biologically programmed to do a quick assessment of the people we do not know and are around us: potential partners, possible threats and competitors. We also try to guess the unknowns, meaning that we create a very shallow evaluation of the people. The only shame there is believing those things are the truth without giving people the chance to dismiss or confirm them.

Personally, the biggest turn-offs happen during conversation. Yeah, some women go for the flashy looks but I still tend to give them a chance and listen what they have to say. Some really attractive girls are only good to look at. If I see no wish or effort to engage in intelligent or meaningful conversation, I know there is no possibility of having a worthwhile relation, so I just move along. It even makes it hard to be friends. I don't avoid them, just don't invest emotionally in them.
Personally, I find a girl goes from a perfect 10 to, well, not anything less than a 10, but a 10 that I think is very mean when she laughs at my incredibly tiny dangus. This poses a rather difficult challenge, as such activity seems to be universal among all two of the women I've almost rogered over the course of my life.
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Hesusio: Personally, I find a girl goes from a perfect 10 to, well, not anything less than a 10, but a 10 that I think is very mean when she laughs at my incredibly tiny dangus. This poses a rather difficult challenge, as such activity seems to be universal among all two of the women I've almost rogered over the course of my life.
Prosthetics
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Hesusio: Personally, I find a girl goes from a perfect 10 to, well, not anything less than a 10, but a 10 that I think is very mean when she laughs at my incredibly tiny dangus. This poses a rather difficult challenge, as such activity seems to be universal among all two of the women I've almost rogered over the course of my life.
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Tallima: Prosthetics
Enlarger pumps...
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Tallima: Prosthetics
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viperfdl: Enlarger pumps...
Not going to lie, they do have their uses.
Post edited October 01, 2018 by Hesusio
That's the most... I don't have a word for it yet... I've ever seen in my entire life.
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Tallima: That's the most... I don't have a word for it yet... I've ever seen in my entire life.
I saw nothing. Don't have a youtube account.