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adamhm: Also, related comic: https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/07/30
^^^^^^
Open this in background while reading the comic and read slowly.

... good times...
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tinyE: I still say he is the all time most constipated looking game character in gaming history.
I have to say i was a little disappointed they changed his face in Max Payne 2.
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tinyE: I still say he is the all time most constipated looking game character in gaming history.
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sMull: I have to say i was a little disappointed they changed his face in Max Payne 2.
They changed it? I thought they just gave him some prune juice.
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sMull: Strange opinion, since in my view the game is full of memorable moments. Set pieces, dialogue, story moments etc. And there is a story, a story of revenge.
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Breja: "Strange" doesn't even begin to cover it. Max Payne is probably the most story driven action game that I know. Hell, I've played plenty adventure games and even RPGs that don't hold a candle to it in that department.
The Witcher has a great story. Real development and progression. Max Payne had a drunk ex cop, a murdered family and stale typical bad guys.
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Breja: "Strange" doesn't even begin to cover it. Max Payne is probably the most story driven action game that I know. Hell, I've played plenty adventure games and even RPGs that don't hold a candle to it in that department.
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darthspudius: The Witcher has a great story. Real development and progression. Max Payne had a drunk ex cop, a murdered family and stale typical bad guys.
I never said "all RPGs" or "The Witcher". But there are some like Icewind Dale, Lords of Xulima or even the super duper famous Oblivion that don't hold a candle to Max Payne's story (note: I liked LoX and Oblivion, just don't think there's much to their stories).

Sure, MP's story is straightforward and cliched- it's all about how it's told. It's immersive, surreal, and dark and funny. That said, as with anything that is so very styliased, it's not to everyone's liking. If you don't love that neo-noir style and the surrealelements thrown into the mix then the bare-bones story itself will not impress you.
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Breja: "Strange" doesn't even begin to cover it. Max Payne is probably the most story driven action game that I know. Hell, I've played plenty adventure games and even RPGs that don't hold a candle to it in that department.
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darthspudius: The Witcher has a great story. Real development and progression. Max Payne had a drunk ex cop, a murdered family and stale typical bad guys.
Its the way its told. Style, presentation, humor, dialogue. Plus it has a few twists and revelations along the way. Its absolutely way ahead of stories told in most other shooters.
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adamhm: Also, related comic: https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/07/30
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Lin545: ^^^^^^
Open this in background while reading the comic and read slowly.

... good times...
I could already imagine the background music & his voice reading it :p

Also while I think of it I would also like to bring some attention to these excellent widescreen fixes for Max Payne 1 & 2 (as well as other games), in case anyone is unaware of them: https://thirteenag.github.io/wfp#maxpayne Some minor issues but a huge improvement overall.
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Lin545: ^^^^^^
Open this in background while reading the comic and read slowly.

... good times...
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adamhm: I could already imagine the background music & his voice reading it :p

Also while I think of it I would also like to bring some attention to these excellent widescreen fixes for Max Payne 1 & 2 (as well as other games), in case anyone is unaware of them: https://thirteenag.github.io/wfp#maxpayne Some minor issues but a huge improvement overall.
Personally I just play without the fixes and simply select the option in my graphic card for having the game screen centered. So I play normally with two black bars on either side like if i had a 4:3 monitor. Works good without the need to tinker around with the fixes and their issues.
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sMull: Personally I just play without the fixes and simply select the option in my graphic card for having the game screen centered. So I play normally with two black bars on either side like if i had a 4:3 monitor. Works good without the need to tinker around with the fixes and their issues.
Prior to discovering the widescreen fixes I just set a virtual desktop for them to run them in a window, but they're both *much* better with the widescreen fixes IMO.

I've played through both games with the widescreen fixes & there are hardly any issues with them - just the graphic novel display issue (*very* minor issue on my system at least - was still fully visible, just the controls were a little out of place... can just press F2 to correct it anyway) and some mirrors in MP2 glitching when outside of the normal 4:3 display area. No hassle to set up, either.
Post edited March 01, 2017 by adamhm
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sMull: Personally I just play without the fixes and simply select the option in my graphic card for having the game screen centered. So I play normally with two black bars on either side like if i had a 4:3 monitor. Works good without the need to tinker around with the fixes and their issues.
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adamhm: Prior to discovering the widescreen fixes I just set a virtual desktop for them to run them in a window, but they're both *much* better with the widescreen fixes IMO.

I've played through both games with the widescreen fixes & there are hardly any issues with them - just the graphic novel display issue (*very* minor issue on my system at least - was still fully visible, just the controls were a little out of place... can just press F2 to correct it anyway) and some mirrors in MP2 glitching when outside of the normal 4:3 display area. No hassle to set up, either.
Hm thats good. Maybe i was looking at something else, but the Max Payne 1 widescreen had artifacts with distant objects, mirroring them and looking all weird.
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sMull: Hm thats good. Maybe i was looking at something else, but the Max Payne 1 widescreen had artifacts with distant objects, mirroring them and looking all weird.
I also tried a widescreen fix several years ago that had all those issues.

Doesn't happen with the ones I've linked above though :)