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I notices that in the past few weeks there was many new topic created about game stores like Steam. For example:

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/anyone_else_noticing_the_quality_of_steam_going_down/page1
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_is_sleeping_on_a_golden_opportunity/page1
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/how_many_different_game_launchers_do_have_installed_on_your_pc
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_steam_support_has_deleted_or_renamed_my_accounts_login/page1

And this is just from the first page of forum.

So, maybe we should discuss all that in one topic? it will be easier to search for information and forum members won't have to post almost same thing twice in different topics?

In me opinion, all last discussions show that Steam got many big problems now end even more coming.

Back then, when it all was just beginning, Steam was made popular by exclusively releasing Half-Life 2. And this game was the locomotive that pulled whole Steam train on the top. But now:

1. AAA-games got pulled out from Steam to the developer's stores. EA got Origin, Ubisoft got Uplay and now new Call of Duty will be available only on Batte.net. And I also think that Bethesda is developing their own store too, so it is only a matter of time when new TES or Fallout won't be available on Steam.

2. I think Valve understand that and this is why they started to hire game developers. But they can't make new Half-Life now. In the past years from HL2 release fans was dreaming and evry one of them already have their ideal HL3. In their heads. So, anything that Valve release won't be successful game because majority of the fans will hate it.

3. Steam is overcrowded by cheap indie games. Very low quality indie games. There was a good video by Jim Sterling where he shows that problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo-3eSYGKy0

Add there Denuvo, game censorship, obsolete interface (very good article about that: http://shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=39344 ) and you get the picture. Also, I start to understand GOG policy about indie-games: they just don' want to make same mistaked that Steam did by overflowing store with low-quality indies.

P.S. Also I must note, that Uplay is still working not quite nice, but their support is now working much better than a six months back. At least, they managed to solve my problems (sadly, quite numerous) relatively fast. Or I just got lucky? Anyway, in Uplay I have only Far Cry 3/Blood Dragon, Assassin's Creed up to 4th game (Black Flag) and Splinter Cell Conviction. if this games arrive on GOG I will gladly buy them here and forget about Uplay.

P.P.S. And let's try to be polite in this topic?
If anything, the last thread you linked deserves a thread on its own, because it acts as a revelation that Steam can delete accounts no problem, and that there's a victim to it actually talking about it. The problem of this thread is that such a serious topic like that would be buried under everything else. Sure, the topic belongs under the "Steam" umbrella, but it's severity wouldn't be easily visible here.
Post edited May 20, 2018 by PookaMustard
GOG could revoke your account for any reason as well if they felt like it - fact is the guy exploited the website / got caught / was warned against arguing against his (temporary community) ban multiple times / continued to press the issue and thus had his account revoked. He was not a victim
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Bigs: GOG could revoke your account for any reason as well if they felt like it - fact is the guy exploited the website / got caught / was warned against arguing against his (temporary community) ban multiple times / continued to press the issue and thus had his account revoked. He was not a victim
Give the thread a read again. He wasn't arguing against his temporary ban, he actually asked to reinstate it after Valve's own self-locking tool removed it. What he was arguing about was the consequence of asking Valve to reinstate it, the permanent ban, ending up with this shitty treatment.

Sure he pressed the issue after being threatened, but he was threatened with his account being shut down and losing access to everything. Definitely a victim, and definitely the threat wasn't warranted (he even got told to open a new account if he really wants to buy from the store again, which raises the point of how dangerous was he, really?). And definitely proof that Steam can remove your account, something a lot of the pro-Steam side claim they don't do anymore.
Post edited May 20, 2018 by PookaMustard
I store my games on my hard disk. Those that I have downloaded anyway. What is there to discuss?
Absolutely Nothing. I've had to train myself not to hit the exclamation mark I used to do that a lot because of an extremely unstable internet connection which was p!ssing me off.

That's why I sounded so p!ssed off all the time I was getting according to the engineer telstra sent out over 30 dropouts in every 15 minutes a day 7 days a week for a long time turns out there was a sh!t-ton of corrosion and built up crap in the pits near my house.

The (!) I used to use was denoting that my internet was unstable not me actually Yelling at anyone usually when yelling at someone I use Multiple (!)'s and type in all caps.
Post edited May 20, 2018 by fr33kSh0w2012
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PookaMustard: If anything, the last thread you linked deserves a thread on its own, because it acts as a revelation that Steam can delete accounts no problem, and that there's a victim to it actually talking about it. The problem of this thread is that such a serious topic like that would be buried under everything else. Sure, the topic belongs under the "Steam" umbrella, but it's severity wouldn't be easily visible here.
Except the OP in that thread isn't a victim, but someone caught out using exploits.
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PookaMustard: Give the thread a read again. He wasn't arguing against his temporary ban, he actually asked to reinstate it after Valve's own self-locking tool removed it. What he was arguing about was the consequence of asking Valve to reinstate it, the permanent ban, ending up with this shitty treatment.

Sure he pressed the issue after being threatened, but he was threatened with his account being shut down and losing access to everything. Definitely a victim, and definitely the threat wasn't warranted (he even got told to open a new account if he really wants to buy from the store again, which raises the point of how dangerous was he, really?). And definitely proof that Steam can remove your account, something a lot of the pro-Steam side claim they don't do anymore.
That's if you take everything he said as a state of fact. I do not. I read the thread and the evidence, some of which has no verification to it at all other than being a screenshot.
Post edited May 20, 2018 by paladin181
Why roll those four threads into one, considering they have very little in common? And the link that does loosely exist is Steam.

That's akin to having just a single game thread here, to talk about technical issues with PoE2, should gOg add to the catalog Game XYZ, and your favorite Stalker mods.

Not sure how that's supposed to make it easier to find information on the topic-within-a-topic.

Edit: missed a word.
Post edited May 20, 2018 by HereForTheBeer
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PookaMustard: because it acts as a revelation that Steam can delete accounts no problem
Anyone can. In PSN few guys was banned because of profile name created 8-11 years before they was banned.
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Themken: I store my games on my hard disk. Those that I have downloaded anyway. What is there to discuss?
What HDD you using for this? I have 2TB and it is not enough. :(
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Andrey82: Anyone can. In PSN few guys was banned because of profile name created 8-11 years before they was banned. What HDD you using for this? I have 2TB and it is not enough. :(
I have a 4TB WD book drive.

I store all my games there.
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PookaMustard: because it acts as a revelation that Steam can delete accounts no problem
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Andrey82: Anyone can. In PSN few guys was banned because of profile name created 8-11 years before they was banned.
Not the point. The point is that despite the ability to remove accounts existing, everyone still brushes that off in favor of "Oh no, they just restrict your ability on the store, that is all." That thread is useful for such situations when anyone claims that you can only have your account be restricted.