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@HijacK - Does your claim shed light on why you are alive?
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cristigale: @HijacK - Does your claim shed light on why you are alive?
I don't think so. I mean, I can extrapolate from flavor that I may have not been in the same room as yogy? Perhaps he was redirected or intercepted? Or maybe he lied. But I don't know any of this for a fact. He also said my claim wasn't the same as his, as far as some of the details of the PM go.
I'm not even told where you were actually. As a matter of fact, I'm not told whether I actually protected you. I'm not told anything of my night's action. At all. Just a role correction or something of the sorts to clarify things.

@all: Has anyone received any information about their action?

Alas, I recall yog saying his ability was gimped, whatever that means. I do not posses information beyond that, so I can't tell you anything in that regards. Heck, one of those guys who died shot may have targeted you and I shot them. If you will recall, I told you guys that I have a gun. more details on that later.

To shed more light on why I don't want to claim yet, it's because I want to be there for the sudden surge of posts that will ensue so I can tackle all of them in real time. At the moment that is not possible.

On a side note, I just finished my paper and I am proof reading it. Wish me luck! It's due in about 1 hour.
Upon re-reading the morning post, I don't think it was me that shot drealmer. He didn't target cristi, or at least I don't think so. He was shot killing Booksie. I wonder why he chose Booksie. Opinions?
I also think it was not me who shot bler. His death seems to be execution style, thus I reckon someone targeted him.
Lastly, I may or may have not shot yog. It depends whether he lied and targeted cristi or he targeted someone else and was redirected, or maybe cristi was not threatened and I didn't shoot anyone during the night. Let me know if I'm missing any other scenario.
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JMich: [...] There has been talk about Godfathers and whether we have them in this game, but I'm not sure if anyone commented about it in relation to the miller claims. [...]
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HypersomniacLive: Elaborate?
People already posted that Godfather roles are quite common in role madness games, but they are not a given. Seeing how this game has 2 claimed millers (who may or may not be), does that change the chances of Godfather(s) being present in the game?
Then again, there are quite a few killing roles so there may not even be a mafia faction, but just people killing each other (just like every retirement home I guess?).
I see the game is back on. I have quite a busy schedule today so I'll get back to you in about 10-12 hours.
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RWarehall: And last, but not least, Yogs is found dead in the kitchen, also shot.
HijacK shot first?

I mean Yogs announced that he would whack HijacK, now he is dead himself. That would fit with HijacK having some defensive killing power. Or just being quicker. Did anyone with an investigative power have a look at Yogs or HijacK tonight? Can anyone shed light on Yogs being Mafia or Miller?

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HijacK: @ all: Do you think there are legit mafia around given this number of neutrals?
That depends on whether you are legit mafia or killing neutral. If you are mafia, then regular mafia is part of the game. If you are neutral, the 'town vs. a bunch of neutrals' theory doesn't sound unreasonable.

What DOES sound unreasonable, however, is you asking for a 'grace period', because you have so little time.
First: making a true claim doesn't take much time. You just write what you are and are done. Making a fake claim, however, can take time since you have to make it up to fit ... and you might want to wait for hints of other people's night actions and information. So your 'Role claim time ... but I'll wait first' reads very strongly scummy to me.
Second: your lack of time doesn't seem as bad as you pretend. You've had the time to write six posts since day start. More than anyone else. It's very hard to believe that you didn't have the time to squeeze in your claim into one of these posts. As I said: a true claim doesn't take much time or work or thinking. You just write the truth.

Therefore I am sure that whatever you are going to claim is not your true role, but that you are currently busy making something up that sounds good. That's what you need that time for.

vote HijacK


That being done, on to the rest: I am somewhat surprised that drealmer went for Bookwyrm. I mean with drealmer not being town it makes sense that he didn't go for me, but wanted to keep me around as distraction. (I think if he would have been town and his 'reading' me as strongly scum would have been genuine, he probably would have gone for me). But why Bookwyrm? Did drealmer know Boowyrm was town (if that flip is genuine)? Perhaps he had some sort of N0 action? Did neutrals get a N0 action? So many questions...

One more question: who killed yogs? Anyone willing to answer that?

But I also have one theory (or call it an idea): it could also be possible that Bookwyrm and drealmer killed each other. I.e. that Bookwyrm hat a reactive killing power. drealmer attacked him and Bookwyrm shot him in defense.

Apart from Questions I have also one piece of information. But unfortunately it doesn't help to sort out the yogs/HijacK alignment mess, or any other alignment. It's just some (unfortunately rather weak) information about activity tonight. Since revealing that information would also reveal something about my role, I am rather unsure if I should reveal it. What do you think? Should I reveal it even if it doesn't concern any of the victims tonight?
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Lifthrasil: HijacK shot first?
Or maybe he targeted cristi.

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Lifthrasil: What DOES sound unreasonable, however, is you asking for a 'grace period', because you have so little time.
I see you went the low blow route and decided to punish me for focusing on my studies. Well, to that I show you no respect. I have no patience for impertinence such as this.

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Lifthrasil: First: making a true claim doesn't take much time. You just write what you are and are done. Making a fake claim, however, can take time since you have to make it up to fit ... and you might want to wait for hints of other people's night actions and information.
I point you to post #602.

"To shed more light on why I don't want to claim yet, it's because I want to be there for the sudden surge of posts that will ensue so I can tackle all of them in real time. At the moment that is not possible."

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Lifthrasil: Second: your lack of time doesn't seem as bad as you pretend. You've had the time to write six posts since day start. More than anyone else. It's very hard to believe that you didn't have the time to squeeze in your claim into one of these posts. As I said: a true claim doesn't take much time or work or thinking. You just write the truth.
That's not why I'm not claiming. Of course, selective reading will impede communication.

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Lifthrasil: Therefore I am sure that whatever you are going to claim is not your true role, but that you are currently busy making something up that sounds good. That's what you need that time for.
You can just fuck off. I'm not about to debate with you how I divide my time between studies and other activities. I take my breaks whenever I want to and that's none of your business. I don't care what nonsensical Neutral role you are, you're just acting like a pig and I'm disgusted with your behavior. Also, don't insult my intelligence. Since when was it ever hard to come up with a fake claim? If I were Mafia, I'd definitely just give you something easy as a pill to swallow, just so I wouldn't hear such nonsense. You're stretching this argument beyond belief.

I'm announcing now that I shall cease any communication with Lift and Trent. Their demeaning attitude towards my request due to real world responsibilities is an affront to my dedication and hard work at school, and I shall not stand their nonsensical argument of time in lack of a proper case. I'm sure they'd love to have some actual points, but alas they only have blind speculation of the nightmare sort. I'm done talking to such cowards. Adios!

@the rest: Please don't post. You might "give away" key points that will "aid" me in "lying" better. LMAO
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Lifthrasil: What DOES sound unreasonable, however, is you asking for a 'grace period', because you have so little time.
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HijacK: I see you went the low blow route and decided to punish me for focusing on my studies. Well, to that I show you no respect. I have no patience for impertinence such as this.
Please try to read before you get upset. I am not punishing you for focusing on your studies. I am 'punishing' you for contradicting yourself. You say you don't have time. You say you're focusing on your studies. And yet you are currently the one with the most posts - and not only short ones at that. And you have the time to answer to me in detail and demonstrate how upset you are. Look yourself at how much you wrote since Daystart and then tell me again how that fits with not having enough time or presence for a claim. If you have the time to get upset in such a verbose way, you also have the time for a claim.

It's one thing to be tied up due to RL stuff and I respect that. But it's another thing entirely, to use RL stuff to selectively avoid one kind of post (the claim) while at the same time posting a lot of other stuff. That is self contradictory and self contradiction is scummy. You know that and you don't have any sensible way of discussing this fact away - therefore you get upset instead. Trying to spin a valid observation into some sort of personal attack, so that you can get out of answering to it. That is NOT town play and the way you reacted confirms that you are not town.
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HijacK: Upon re-reading the morning post, I don't think it was me that shot drealmer. He didn't target cristi, or at least I don't think so. He was shot killing Booksie. I wonder why he chose Booksie. Opinions?
I also think it was not me who shot bler. His death seems to be execution style, thus I reckon someone targeted him.
Lastly, I may or may have not shot yog. It depends whether he lied and targeted cristi or he targeted someone else and was redirected, or maybe cristi was not threatened and I didn't shoot anyone during the night. Let me know if I'm missing any other scenario.
Your whole claim takes me back to the game where flub claimed town arsonist, it was an outrageous claim that I bought hook, line, and sinker but ended up being a load of bs. My guess this game is yog's was pulling a fast one on us and you jumped on the train to do the same thing.

Your whole statement reads of platitudes to sate people. You're trying to appear "helpful" when in fact all you want to do is try and hide in plain sight. I mean how do you not know what you did last night? "I don't think it was me that shot drealmer" "I also think it was not me who shot bler". The morning post clearly states there are multiple Mafia families and you are obviously in one of them but are expecting us to give you a free pass.

You're full of it and my vote wil stay where it is.
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Managed to sneak out of work earlier. Catching up.
LMAO at the multiple mafia families comment. How does one even fathom to spread misinformation when we have clear proof of so many neutrals. Bah.
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dedoporno: Managed to sneak out of work earlier. Catching up.
Pls don't post!!!!11!!1!11!!! You'll give me details that I can use to enhance my lie. Outrageous!
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HijacK: LMAO at the multiple mafia families comment.
You mean this one, that trent referred to:

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RWarehall: And Yogsloth, the way he's dressed, definitely worked for one of the Mafia families.
(emphasis by me)
What's so funny about it that you laugh your ass off?
Or in other words: I see where trent got his multiple families idea. Since he specifically referred to the morning post. I do agree, however, that it looks like there are a lot of neutrals around. How that fits together only RW currently knows for sure.

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HijacK: Pls don't post!!!!11!!1!11!!! You'll give me details that I can use to enhance my lie. Outrageous!
Or, instead of mockingly asking others not to post, you could just claim. You just demonstrated again that you DO have the time to read the thread and to reply to other players. So what's holding you back?
I have no problem voting hijack (he has a whole lot of talking and posting but not explaining ans i get he has things he needs to do and concentrate on but he is still posting tons of things. but I want to read over what has happen better I have to take the baby to the vet now but will back as soon as done and I will be able to read the thread and not just scan over it.

I also have something I saw I want to talk about in RW post of us coming back and my action as well. Shouldnt be longer then a hour or so tops