Yes i dislike the current gaming trend as they don't think, they say well you have a choice, but the fact 80% of them are lemmings who always say yes means i don't have a choice.
As for kickstarters, non of them really take my fancy it's few and far between.

Gaming will become a subscription service, and then what? will you be happy about that?


The only way to change the market is by not spending money and we have too many willing to throw it away.

And in a marketplace full of shithead developers and publishers lying, how can anyone determine what is really scarce or not. Straight up lying to you is underhanded. Selling you on scarcity that isn't there is lying, and underhanded. Most wont tell you that their preorder content is going to be available for purchase because they want to drive those immediate sales. Just because they make good money at it doesn't make it not anticonsumer or moral or anything. So save your shilling for those large anticonsumer companies for someone who gives a shit about them. I don't, and I won't be a victim of their anticonsumer garbage again.

You always have a choice.....unless you believe that free will is a myth and you have no real say in anything that is.

As for subscriptions: Eh, I look at the silver lining and if something is good and I still have my old games as backups I can find the silver lining of such services of there is any to be had, instead of looking at how bad things are.

Lastly, we can change the market through social media/etc influencing.....you just need to know what to say/where/when. Most choose not to bother, however, as they lack the faith it will work or are too lazy to bother.

Common sense and reading the fine print, for one. You need to stop putting all the blame on "evil
devs" and more on "stupid people winning stupid prizes", as the saying goes.

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If they are lying, then fine.....if they are not and people are too dumb to figure out how it works and buy accordingly then they are to blame partially.
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It's not shilling it's just I don't see all devs as evil men/women with snidley whiplash moustaches in black outfits, and am willing to put some of the blame where it belongs: On dumb/impatient consumers.

Not doing it as I'm not sure my pc could handle it, and I'd much rather play it on PS4 anyway (once I get one, that is).

Exactly, no preorder bonus means no incentive to buy it early. I guess you all find kickstarters and such pesky with their supporter and backer rewards? It has been a part of gaming since at least the mid 90s, and it just makes sense that they reward you for supporting them that way and having faith in their product.

No preorder bonuses, or very poor ones means I don't preorder anymore. After getting burned a couple times and having no incentive to do so, I gave up on it in all but the most rare cases. At a minimum, you should get a preorder discount. If they are single player bonuses, or cosmetic only, I don't see why people are so butt hurt about them offering an incentive to support their product early.

Cd Red has built an identity on being anti-preorder and shameless DLC, to change that now would dent their public image hugely. So the lack of pre-order goodies is fine, though people didn't seem to mind them with Thronebreaker so you could really insert your own thoughts about what is a PR/marketing exercise and what's a genuine sentiment. If anyone remembers Thronebreaker.

How very true.

1st paragraph: This....most companies of many types have offered some bonus to people buying certain things early or on certain days/weeks/etc. It is just a common business practice in general and ok to use, even if some use it too often or in bad ways.

2nd paragraph: Those who complain about missing out on a few preorder only weapon skins/armor skins/etc need to look at just how much they are actually "missing out on" before complaining. If the preorder only dlc was storyline content/similar I could understand getting upset, though, but most such content is offered for sale after preorders as well & often a complete edition comes out at some point with all/most dlc at a fair price.

Imo it's akin to those who dislike piracy/pirates.....some dislike them simply because they get the product for free when they have to pay. Well with preorder stuff some are jealous others get stuff they don't get just because they didn't preorder.



They could offer preorder goodies and allow people to play/use them before everyone else and give those whp buy normally the same dlc but make them wait a bit to install/use such to incentivise buying the preorder yet give everyone the dlc at some point....then everyone wins.

I forgot to mention that there were games with and without bonuses prior to digital download versions of games, but you still had an incentive to preorder. That was you needed the discs or a cartridge to play the game and if you didnt preorder, you may be waiting months for them to create and distribute more copies until after they filled all the preorders.

If it is a digital download like Cyberpunk on GoG with no preorder bonus, there is not a single reason to preorder. If i want to i can get on gog the minute it releases, download and play it. Chances are ill be in the middle of my work week and wont have a chance to play it for a few days, so it doesnt matter if i own it at release when i can just buy and download it at any time. I feel like digital copies made preorder bonuses that much more relevant and necessary to justify the preorder.

Internet connectivity is another thing factoring in here that's often overlooked.
Most people still sit on unstable or narrowband connections and if there's the opportunity to pre-download most of the game in advance of the actual release then that's a huge incentive to pre-order as well.
It makes a difference if you have to rely on your suboptimal connection to download an obscenely large chunk of data (close to or sometimes even going past the 100GB barrier nowadays) or just a small single file to "unlock" the already pre-downloaded large chunk of data on release day.